Am 21.09.2014 02:22 schrieb "Sara Golemon" :
>
> > It would also mean having to make { default block } into an
> > expression... with a return value (to be allowed on either side of the
> > boolean or)
> >
> Excellent point, a block only works with T_OR if it has a value. I'm
> pretty sure that at
On Sep 21, 2014 10:48 AM, "Xinchen Hui" wrote:
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> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Pierre Joye
wrote:
> > Hi,
> > On Sep 21, 2014 10:08 AM, "Xinchen Hui" wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui wrote:
> >> >
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
> Hi,
> On Sep 21, 2014 10:08 AM, "Xinchen Hui" wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hey:
>> >>
>> >> it should be closed tomorrow, not today.
Hi,
On Sep 21, 2014 10:08 AM, "Xinchen Hui" wrote:
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> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> >
> >> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey:
> >>
> >> it should be closed tomorrow, not today.
> >
> > It's the 21st in my timezone. I started the vote at 2am on
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
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>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui wrote:
>>
>> Hey:
>>
>> it should be closed tomorrow, not today.
>
> It's the 21st in my timezone. I started the vote at 2am on the 14th and it's
> now 4am on the 21st. I don't see a problem.
the p
> On 21 Sep 2014, at 03:52, Xinchen Hui wrote:
>
> Hey:
>
> it should be closed tomorrow, not today.
It's the 21st in my timezone. I started the vote at 2am on the 14th and it's
now 4am on the 21st. I don't see a problem.
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Hey:
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote:
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> On 14 Sep 2014, at 23:23, Andrea Faulds wrote:
>
>> Good evening,
>>
>> This RFC has been put to a vote. It starts today (2014-09-14) and ends in a
>> week’s time (2014-09-21).
>>
>> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/integer_semantics#vote
>
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote:
> 2014-09-20 10:13 GMT+02:00 Anatol Belski :
>> this was already suggested at least once last year. But now with master
>> this is pretty justified.
>>
>> In the light of the PdbProject presense, removing the *.dsw *.dsp files
>> will si
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Leigh wrote:
> On 20 September 2014 23:06, Leigh wrote:
>>
>> Lots to think about here, if it's at all viable this will need it's
>> own separate RFC, it's a much more invasive change, but definitely a
>> great idea.
>
> NikiC and Bob have convinced me to carry on
Hi,
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Tjerk Meesters
wrote:
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>> On 20 Sep, 2014, at 11:35 pm, Florian Margaine wrote:
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I saw this interesting bug: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68063
>>
>> Basically, if `session_id('')` is run before `session_start()`, weird
>> things happe
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Leigh wrote:
> On 20 September 2014 20:47, Sara Golemon wrote:
>> I like the general idea, but rather than explicitly focusing on the 'or'
>> keyword, how about just giving all loop constructs (do/while/for/foreach) a
>> return value? I'd suggest an integer ret
On 20 September 2014 23:06, Leigh wrote:
>
> Lots to think about here, if it's at all viable this will need it's
> own separate RFC, it's a much more invasive change, but definitely a
> great idea.
NikiC and Bob have convinced me to carry on with the original
proposal, and bring up Saras ideas as
> On 20 Sep, 2014, at 11:35 pm, Florian Margaine wrote:
>
> Hi list,
>
> I saw this interesting bug: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68063
>
> Basically, if `session_id('')` is run before `session_start()`, weird
> things happen.
>
> The bug reporter proposes 2 ways to fix this:
>
> - `sessi
On 14 Sep 2014, at 23:23, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> This RFC has been put to a vote. It starts today (2014-09-14) and ends in a
> week’s time (2014-09-21).
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/integer_semantics#vote
>
> Thanks!
The vote has now closed. The result was 16:8 Yes:No, whi
On 20 September 2014 20:47, Sara Golemon wrote:
>
> I like the general idea, but rather than explicitly focusing on the 'or'
> keyword, how about just giving all loop constructs (do/while/for/foreach) a
> return value? I'd suggest an integer return value indicating the number of
> times the lo
> On Sep 19, 2014, at 14:56, Leigh wrote:
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/loop_or
>
I like the general idea, but rather than explicitly focusing on the 'or'
keyword, how about just giving all loop constructs (do/while/for/foreach) a
return value? I'd suggest an integer return value indicating the
Why don't you throw an exception instead of returning random things that
are not accurate?
It makes the response of the operation or casts more realistic, since you
will never get INF or NAN as result and possibly transform it to 0
unconsciously. It will keep the semantic for expected types, for e
On 15/09/2014 00:23, Andrea Faulds wrote:
This RFC has been put to a vote. It starts today (2014-09-14) and ends in a
week’s time (2014-09-21).
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/integer_semantics#vote
Hi,
After discussing this RFC with other members of AFUP (French UG), we
agree that improving cross
test
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Updated RFC to include information about templating engines often
emulating this behaviour for ease-of-use.
Changed target version to be specifically PHP 7, so that it's clear
that changes target the AST based compiler. (If there's ever a 5.next,
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On 20 September 2014 15:43:46 GMT+01:00, Leigh wrote:
>On 20 September 2014 01:02, Rowan Collins
>wrote:
>>
>> It seems like there are actually quite a number of special blocks you
>> *could* define
>
>Some or all of these can be implemented (in other RFCs).
>
>However in order to avoid specifyin
Hi list,
I saw this interesting bug: https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=68063
Basically, if `session_id('')` is run before `session_start()`, weird
things happen.
The bug reporter proposes 2 ways to fix this:
- `session_start()` should silently fix the situation
- or `session_start()` should noise
On 20 September 2014 15:49, Leigh wrote:
> On 20 September 2014 15:37, Johannes Schlüter
> wrote:
> >
> > It is unclear what a "no" means. Might be a related to the patch the
> > design, a misunderstanding or due to a critical issue ... in the end a
> > vote creates "losers" with little feedbac
2014-09-20 10:13 GMT+02:00 Anatol Belski :
> Hi,
>
> this was already suggested at least once last year. But now with master
> this is pretty justified.
>
> In the light of the PdbProject presense, removing the *.dsw *.dsp files
> will simplify things negating the need to update those on every chan
On 20 September 2014 15:37, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
>
> It is unclear what a "no" means. Might be a related to the patch the
> design, a misunderstanding or due to a critical issue ... in the end a
> vote creates "losers" with little feedback.
>
> But well, I'm saying this from day one of the vo
On 20 September 2014 01:02, Rowan Collins wrote:
>
> It seems like there are actually quite a number of special blocks you
> *could* define, such as:
>
> a) When the body is executed zero times (proposed "or" block)
> b) When the body is executed exactly once (in a do...while loop, as
> mentioned
On Sat, 2014-09-20 at 03:16 +0100, Leigh wrote:
>
> I think everyone with the ability to vote should have to communicate
> their reasons behind their yes/no publicly on this mailing list for it
> to be valid. If you cannot describe in your own words why a proposal
> should or should not be accepte
Over the past 3 years I have made several small code and documentation
contributions to the project.
I do *not* want php-src commit access. I want to submit all of my contributions
via pull request and have them double checked for sanity.
I currently have two RFCs under discussion and would lik
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 7:58 AM, wrote:
> Am 19.09.2014 15:21, schrieb Levi Morrison:
>>
>> Anyone else have an opinion they want to voice on this?
>
> What's about "Typed Arguments"?
I am proposing return types which are not arguments, so that would be
too narrow.
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> On 20 Sep 2014, at 13:54, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
>
> Afair the voting rfc required previous contribution not just an existing
> php.net account, but as I mentioned there are a bunch of ways to contribute
> other than having commits in one of the repos so there is no easy way to
> check that prog
2014.09.20. 14:14 ezt írta ("Pierre Joye" ):
>
> On Sep 20, 2014 7:07 PM, "Andrea Faulds" wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 20 Sep 2014, at 06:06, Pierre Joye wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not sure what brings you here but the idea of community votes was
> one
> > > of the top thing when we introduced the voting
On Sep 20, 2014 7:07 PM, "Andrea Faulds" wrote:
>
>
> > On 20 Sep 2014, at 06:06, Pierre Joye wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure what brings you here but the idea of community votes was
one
> > of the top thing when we introduced the voting RFC.
>
> I should've made clear I'm not opposed to community r
> On 20 Sep 2014, at 06:06, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
> I am not sure what brings you here but the idea of community votes was one
> of the top thing when we introduced the voting RFC.
I should've made clear I'm not opposed to community reps voting either. People
who have made enough contributions
On 20/09/2014 10:17, Lester Caine wrote:
That most of my spare time is still being taken up
living with the consequences of changes in PHP is water under the bridge
now [...] PLEASE can we get
back to a level playing field and use PHP7 as a base to get something
stable and fully compatible with m
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Patrick Schaaf wrote:
> Am 20.09.2014 01:35 schrieb "Andrea Faulds" :
> >
> > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/isset_ternary#vote
>
> Hi,
>
> got a question after being bitten my the issue yesterday in the context of
> the "@yadda ?: 'default'" form yesterday:
>
> What ab
On 20/09/14 02:29, Andrea Faulds wrote:
> I’d never suggest people without internals karma can’t vote. I think doc and
> peck contributors are as valued as any other contributors. However, people
> with no karma whatsoever (a blank people.php.net page) voting irks me.
>
> Thoughts?
OK ... I am
Hi Dmitry,
On Fri, September 19, 2014 12:43, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
> I know :)
> Interned strings in PHP5 were implemented as characters allocated in one
> single buffer. Adding new strings into this buffer from different threads
> would require synchronization (locks).
>
> In PHP7 this implementat
Hi,
this was already suggested at least once last year. But now with master
this is pretty justified.
In the light of the PdbProject presense, removing the *.dsw *.dsp files
will simplify things negating the need to update those on every change.
Also, those files are in VS2005 format, but master
Am 20.09.2014 01:35 schrieb "Andrea Faulds" :
>
> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/isset_ternary#vote
Hi,
got a question after being bitten my the issue yesterday in the context of
the "@yadda ?: 'default'" form yesterday:
What about yadda that results, at the moment, in fatal errors?? Things like
stati
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