On 15.09.23 17:54, BohwaZ wrote:
I'm not against the removal, but having to rely on user-space libraries
probably means we'll lose some performance over using the C library.
to quote from the message that started this thread:
"Please remember, that unbundling extensions does not mean that they
On 09/11/2013 04:46 PM, John Betley wrote:
I'm in full support of this idea. In order to have more meaningful and on
topic discussions, we have to provide ourselves with the means and tools to
do so. I think having a forum would be excellent.
my personal experience with "we have both a forum a
On 09/11/2013 02:46 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
So, I think, it's time to move to a forum.
I hope this is a joke.
so do I ...
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On 06/25/2013 11:10 AM, Johannes Schlüter wrote:
That aside: resources is also the issue with the online editor. We have
too few people working on docs, so in the end it doesn't make much
difference if they don't have time to review edit.php.net or github.
(while reviewing on edit.php.net has the
On 11/12/2012 02:20 PM, Antony Dovgal wrote:
> While I fully understand the reasons behind this, I still believe this
> kind of thing should be done using the documentation only.
following that argument we can deprecate E_DEPRECATED altogether,
can't we?
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On 07/20/2012 11:07 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> 1.0.0 and 1.0 are different things. If you want to make a comparison
> that takes into account only two components, you can just cut them both
> to two components, then compare.
it is hart to imagine a 1.0 followed by 1.0.0 in real world, but
the only
Too late to raise this now anyway, but ...
On 13.05.2012 04:39, Stas Malyshev wrote:
> I know this was discussed a number of times here, but just to bring it
> to a conclusion - I intend to apply patch in the bug report - which
> removes conversion for strings that do not convert to integers - to
On 05/07/2012 05:32 AM, Tjerk Anne Meesters wrote:
> Validated or not, why would type juggling even come into the picture
> if both variables are of the same type?
For the simple reason that web forms return all input as strings, even
if the input is actually meant to be numeric
Many PHP databas
On 05/07/2012 09:28 AM, Arvids Godjuks wrote:
> Hello internals,
>
> I should voice my opinion that such things like comparing two strings
> starting with numbers and that they resolve to actual integer/float for
> comparation is bad, really bad. That just defies the logic and yealds
> absolutly u
On 04/24/2012 01:06 AM, Galen Wright-Watson wrote:
> http://svn.php.net/viewvc?view=revision&revision=128060, same author) then
> changes zend_str_tolower to use tolower instead of its custom ASCII-based
> conversion. The commit message is: "make this faster and sexier". Within
> these revisions,
On 04/11/2012 05:19 PM, Luke Scott wrote:
> The only thing that infuriates me is the ternary operator being left
> associative. I want that fixed - screw bc on that one! I have been
> programming for 10 years and that one still confuses me! Most people
> just add parentheses to "fix" the problem.
On 04/10/2012 06:20 PM, Adir Kuhn wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> today I read this post, I think that some points are valid, follow the link
> for
> you guys
as stuff like this comes up again and again (although not in as epic
lenght as this one) i've been thinking whether it might make sense to
have so
On 04/17/2012 01:20 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
> I don't think this has much BC impact, so it should be possible to change it.
Same here, i never even knew that this worked in a string context
until recently. Autocast/comparison rules are already complicated
enough as they are documented now, and i
On 11/07/2011 10:12 AM, Keloran wrote:
this looks cool if you get it to work
+1 want have! :)
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ue" in the rand() documentation ;)
And i can't resist to add
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ugh
> What i want to say is that php must go forward and yes you can
> change/break things in the engine
> like in the php 4 to php 5 migration or php5 to php6
sure we can break things if there is a compelling reason
to do so, i'm just totally missing the compelling part here ...
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Nuno Lopes wrote:
I already expressed my opinion.. If you know what's the buggy gcc
version, just fail at configure time if it's present.
but with a test for the actual buggy behavior, not just
the gcc version i'd assume? (thing "regression" ;)
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I finished testing now, the new test case "27large_object_oid.phpt"
tests for the new parameters. The test passes with PostgreSQL 8.4
but fails with older versions as i haven't found a good way to
test for the new capabilities in the skip test.
i&#
ies in the skip test.
I committed my changes to the 5.3 branch only for now as the
tests for "oid passed as string" fail in HEAD, i will commit
there too once i have that fixed ...
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Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
i've started looking into the patch yesterday, there are still some
small issues with it though ... i'll provide you with more detailed
comments later today or early tomorrow ...
open questions:
- should the functions return an error if using the spe
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the old ugly concept of bundling functions as static methods within
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Pierre Joye wrote:
Can be moved PECL
- interbase
- fpdf
- fbsql
- sybase and sybase_ct
Please let me know if you can either help to maintain an extension or
if you see any issue with one of these moves.
i can help with fpdf if needed but it should go to PECL
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Not
sure if the rest affects codegen, do you check the version format
itself or do you realy on the pear installer for this task?
it is not checked yet, but it is an open TODO item anyway ...
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ive it another look tonight in parallel
to the TV maybe ...
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Gesch
; is probably a
must have:
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most
real world situations where a 'with' block might
make sense it wouldn't be standalone but would
at least require some basic function calls to
be of use ...
so with this limitation in place i'd like to revert
my previous -0.9 to a strong -1
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Lets do not weaken this concept ...
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Nuno Lopes wrote:
My proposal is the following:
some functions when fed with constant arguments always return a constant
value, too. e.g.:
strlen('abcd') === 4.
wouldn't that be called "deterministic" and not "const"?
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he extension in
php.ini using
extension=myinfo.so
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with the procedural interface then it comes
down to 'just' *always* putting in the database handle
as first parameter instead of doing so optionally as
last parameter only ...
See also http://forge.mysql.com/wiki/Converting_to_MySQLi
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lly think it
is worth the effort anymore though ...
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Geschäftsf
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Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
> ext/mysql development has been discontinued in favor of ext/mysqli,
> one of the goals was to integrate support for exactly SSL and the
> other new connection options like gzip compressed connections that
> are available as of MySQL 4.1.
Rasmus is right and Hart
nd we'll have http://php.net/mysql be more explicit
about this.
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s discussion
> to avoid retaliations due to bruised egos.
Has there been a discussion? At least from your side it
was mostly flaming IMHO. Anyway, i agree that this is not
getting us anywhere. You've clearly shown that you want
to have it your way and are not willing to adapt in any
way ...
hich your insistence of not putting your real name
into your "From:" field already substantially contributes to ...)
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andled just fine already. Look what mess you
caused instead ... :(
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f output that only seems
to happen with *some* versions of autoconf?
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of worms opened by introducing an
alternative syntax for an already existing feature.
So if we were designing PHP today i'd be all for [] and [] only,
but as things are my vote is mostly against it even though i sort
of like the syntax.
So from my side a
-0.8
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horse here and no matter how hard you beat it, it won't go any
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Robert Cummings wrote:
Sounds like PHP should have been trademarked [...]
i don't know about the rest of the world, but here in .de you won't
get a trademark on a 3 letter name anymore, and this has been so
for quite a while, afaict since far before PHP came to light ...
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Richard Quadling wrote:
>> On 02/08/06, Hartmut Holzgraefe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Is function overloading really "an OOP thing"?
I think so, I've only ever used it within Delphi, so my POV may be skewed.
proving by example? ;)
To quote http://www.
forum, all things SHOULD be considered!
There is a difference between discussion and brainstorming ...
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Ron Korving wrote:
So, my suggestion is this: why not support function overloading in PHP6,
because in PHPs dynamicly typed world this would require runtime
checks *on every single function call* as things can't be resolved
at compile time?
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not against *declaring* a property as readonly
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Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote:
Zeev Suraski wrote:
What does that give you that class constants don't?
i on the other hand fail to see how it is related to class constants
at all?
hm ... this was not supposed to get out as i had seen your reply
to yourself ...
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Zeev Suraski wrote:
What does that give you that class constants don't?
i on the other hand fail to see how it is related to class constants
at all?
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Ron Korving wrote:
In C++ you'd use private for this. All object members are readable, ...
Could you elaborate on this?
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7;t do
any processing itself (or have i missed something lately?)
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anymore alltogether, we would
just make everything private and have the getter and setter
decide (using instanceof on $this etc.) the access rights.
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tra getter line ... less typing
*and* less error prone ... and easier to read, too IMHO
You didn't want to return $bar in your example, you wanted
to return $this->bar so you already ran into one of the
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ldren only?
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although i can't think of any ...
Anny comments before i proceed to commit?
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n the regular ICE connection ...
i hope this explains things ... or maybe it explains why this
doesn't explain things at all ... whatever ...
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on arcane tools like awk ...)
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Steph Fox wrote:
Still to vote: Derick, Marcus, George, Sascha, Hartmut, Chregu,
Johannes, Sebastian, Stefan, apologies if I missed any names here.
1) -1
2) +1
3) +.5
4) -0
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Sascha Schumann wrote:
5) goto, fowarding-jumping only.
which would more or less make it useless for state machine stuff, right?
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totally given up on goto.
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han "goto label;", it is almost
in the same league as "goto linenumber;" ...
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using CodeGen_PECL you'll get a full self contained extension
project, including a package.xml file suitable for automatic
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Marco Kaiser wrote:
Today during a session i had a strange "magic" feature found in php.
there is a very simple rule that PHP inherited from C:
never use pre- and postfix increment operators in the same expression
as the results are undefined
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Andi Gutmans wrote:
Andrei is waiting for volunteers to upgrade internal functions to
Unicode :)
is there a todo list of functions converted, being worked on,
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Jared Williams wrote:
Perhaps some tool to generate boiler plate docbook from introspection
> would be enough encouragement?
we can already generate this from the proto comment lines
or you could use PEAR::CodeGen_PECL which generates C code and
DocBook at the same time ...
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Antony Dovgal wrote:
You forgot to add TSRMLS_CC macro:
zend_register_internal_class(&ce TSRMLS_CC);
see also http://www.php.net/manual/en/zend-api.zend-register-internal-class.php
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least, it'd certainly serve my needs. :) )
So far there is no difference between a user level and an internal
function from a callers point of view, adding such an asymmetry now
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* add this information for
all the 4,000+ extension funcitons out there ...
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Lukas Smith wrote:
Its sole purpose is to deal with situations where you have a
considerable number of parameters.
well, i for one would love to write something like
$pos = strpos(haystack=$str, needle="foobar");
instead of looking up parameter orders all the time :)
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Lukas Smith wrote:
- all internal and PECL functions need to be recoded as the API
right now doesn't know any concept of parameter names at all
I was thinking that this would a userland only feature.
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anyone summarize the disadvantages now please?
- all internal and PECL functions need to be recoded as the API
right now doesn't know any concept of parameter names at all
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Andrei Zmievski wrote:
Hartmut, there are only 2 or 3 of those functions where the order differs.
but it's the fact that it differs at all that counts ...
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all those string functions with different order of haystack and needle
named parameters could help to reduce the criticism we get for this
poor choice of parameter order in the past ...
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be used.
this argument can easily be extended to "don't use the PPP stuff at all"
"friend" on the other hand is a mechanism to allow more fine grained
access control
"friend" extends PPP in a similar way as ACLs extend the unix file
Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
SG>>* Labeled breaks also apply to continue; For example:
yes, I think it's a good way to do it.
oh, totally forgot about that, another strong reason for having
it in parallel to any GOTO solution we come up with
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Mike Hall wrote:
Just FYI, the lack of
as far as i remember the only arguemnt against http://www.php.net/unsub.php
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ell which state you are
currently in and to have state transition logging in front of
the switch, but i experience it as less readable and it doesn't
perform as well as a GOTO based solution would as GOTOs can be
resolved at compile time while switch requires run time comparisons
-
dom place in code, not connected to the previos
place in any logical way.
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concept of
scoping evaluation. The idea simply consists of not having namespaces
inside the ternary:
while i agree that the () approach is less bad than the whitespace one
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by name ...)
are way less clean
if we are retricting GOTO to just jump forward we might be better off
with named loops and labeled breaks just as in java, there is not
much extra use in being able to place the labels anywhere you want
then ...
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(not to mention that maintaining a parser with special state
rules like this becomes a WTF? PITA anyway ...)
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Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
If it comes down to count of +1/-1 about this feature, I am +1 for
unrestricted forward/backward jumps and -1 for restricted version.
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y with
T_LESS_THAN T_UNARY_MINUS
like in
if (SOME_CONSTANT<-SOME_OTHER_CONSTANT)
so that we are back to the same problem we alread have with ':'?
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Sebastian Kugler wrote:
Forcing the use of brackets (instead of whitespaces) only for places
where you want to use namespace constants in ternaries is also
impossible?
exactly
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Derick Rethans wrote:
Don't you think it's useful to allow a convention like {} for strings and []
for arrays, so you can be sure what $str{1} means without looking at any
context?
No.
Derick
ok, next stop: "Operator Overloading"? ;)
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Hartmut Holzgraefe, Sen
Petar Nedyalkov wrote:
proper scopes for global, classes and functions.
will allow for local variables for functions and classes without having to
use $this->foo in classes and will allow for a more c/c++ like classes.
I think this will pollute the namespace a lot and may lead to spaghetti cod
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