#x27;s stable enough (needs
> definition of stable and probably an RFC)
>
C would be ideal.
Give everyone a chance to validate the count fix, plus its a nice date that
does not leave Americans
up in arms about turkeys and its way before christmas, very neutral ground
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ee with Anthony, if we found a serious bug, let's fix it, its not
about perfect releases its about ignoring known issues.
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This vote was supposed to end on 29/3 but it seems to still be open.
Can someone with proper access finish it?
be proposed if the Dual Mode RFC fails.
>
> The answer - there's not.
>
>
I may be missing something, but isn't the reason why its not going up for
vote that it
has not gone through the RFC process yet? 2 weeks here, 2 weeks there and
such?
Honest question, please don'
anything else. Its about closure and
moving on.
Let's all stop accusing everyone and focus on reading RFCs and voting.
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uch is just matching syntax,
but it for example does not support parametrized annotations.
So let's just stick to Doctrine and other annotation specific libs for
reference of userland implementations.
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use them
there was no special treatment there and there should be no special
treatment here.
I'm right now oblivious to what is being voted or not in this case, but
ignoring
a defined 2/3 rule is clearly wrong. Either remove rules or follow them
otherwise they
become useless noise.
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ss of the
syntax
intent or how many unicorns it provides.
That is what i do.
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til he realizes
> what he did and proceeds to bang his head against his desk in frustration
> for missing such a "simple" error.
>
> Let's not subsidize the headache drug manufacturers with PHP syntax
> decisions. :-)
>
> --Larry Garfield
>
>
I agree wit
s not need it: i think we have proven the use already, every
major FW has a
implementation of this, there is clearly demand.
So if we are going to get anywhere with this discussion I suggest getting
back to
the original RFC and working on solving the issues instead of discussing
developer folklor
orks that support the use of
annotations and the nature of
hosting providers and extensions, I really think this is a core feature.
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> two,
> > much of what is currently written as documentation (for example @var
> > annotations) could be written as functional annotations when these have a
> > meaningful purpose. After all, existing code with phpdoc-annotations most
> > likely was not written with the intent of consuming that metadata at
> > runtime, unless written for use with an annotation library.
> >
> > I would be happy to involve myself deeper in this, if others agree and
> > would like to work on a new RFC.
> >
> > - Rasmus Schultz
> >
>
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this? I imagine that if you are
familiar with C and PHP source this is a quick implementation as its
standard logic documented everywhere.
I'm not familiar enough with the PHP source to do this myself, hence I'm
asking for anyone willing to "champion" the patch.
Thanks!
ound for
this kind of operation, it will bring about the return of "utils.php" and i
don't think that's worth.
So while i agree not everything needs a core implementation, this does not
fall under that case.
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it for over 10 years, but is enough of
a bother to new people I guess.
Anyway, i would love to see this as a alternative, not a replacement, for
some of the string functions and similar things
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seen this problem happen, people losing time trying to figure out
what is wrong only to find
its a missing bracket.
As Paul said, this is bug-prone.
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bracket-less try blocks.
>
> I think PHP could benefit from having a single statement try form. I often
> turn to PHP for quick and dirty scripts when I need to do something with
> little fuss. I think having try/catch support brace-less single statements
> would help increase consistency in PHP's syntax, as well as be useful in
> certain situations.
>
I think bracket-less is a bad practice that was left for BC, i would rather
we move away from it then move more things into it.
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On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa <
ivan.ender...@hoa-project.net> wrote:
> Hi internals,
>
> As you certainly know, brackets defining blocks in PHP are optional if
> blocks contain a single instruction. Thus:
>
> if($condition) {
> echo 'foobar';
> }
>
> is strictly equivalent
lace... Is there a reason?
>
>
I don't recall correctly, there was a thread on this by David Coalier some
time ago, but it went completely off course and i remember BC breaks were
part of the reason. I think we have a good plan for BC breaks now, so why
not rethink this.
> Ant
ch is the case we are covering anyway)
This is basically because the ternary operator does not do a internal
implicit isset, only an empty.
Does this seem like a possible improvement we can work on? Anyone
interested in championing the change?
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Awesome, that clear is up pretty well.
I just wanted to get this well cleared up, and since this vote ad its various
quirks, why not just sort out all issues once and for all.
Thanks for the replies.
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k and deal with the attitude.
I'll just step away again.
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p the point about rounding up or down.
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le thread might actually have been for nothing
since the vote had already passed.
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d. I would like to bring closure to this topic.
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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Rafael Dohms
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote:
>
> I am not PSR compliant in either autoloader implementation or class
> implementation. The reaso
trying to reach for that goal.
> Thanks,
>
> Anthony
Bootstrapping and autoloading are two parts of a process, having one
done better does not exclude having the other in your library.
So a see bootstrapping as a form of configuration and preparation,
autoloading is merely a step that may or
the the "framework developer" and reaches the
common developer.
And i for one think the developer is a very important part of PHP and
should be valued.
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Nuno Lopes wrote:
> Hi,
>
> So, is it worth it?
>
Speaking as a organizer of PHP TestFest events i think GCOV is one of
our most used tools to figure out what needs testing, all of our test
writers need this resource to look into this.
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the reason why i suggest a new preg_extract function
that would handle the other use cases in a optimized way.
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C or have
negative side effects, would it?
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And yes, we still need all of those pages described, this is an extra
layer on top of everything being done. If we can get mentors who like
to help the i say we go for it.
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David,
I'm no good at core code, but i can help out in the test department if
newcomers need to learn to write tests for their patches
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that would be great too.
i'm a +1, was not present during first vote.
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e. I mean, it's a
> shorthand for isset($var)?$var:$something_else isn't it? That
> presupposes that $var may not be set, but that you've accounted for that
> fact, so don't want a notice about it. Obviously the isset() can only be
> applied if the 'left hand side&#
the book on Git, i'm sure
we can count on his help to aid us in sorting those out.
I'm a +1 if we have also docs and usage examples to help the learning
curve of git beginners.
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ute, yes
there is and we don;t see more examples cause we never had it.
How often did anyone suggest creating a state machine in the ZF
Controller before we had goto available? once it became available we
started finding uses for it.
So i'm pretty sure one Annotations exist, more and more
ussing here is a
small percentage of the team that works on PHP.
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"unicode"
Whatever path PHP6 does go down, we need to rememebr small changes
like this can come along in other aspects
So just a version check for the test is not all that's needed, we need
something to deal with these differences as well.
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2, 5.3, 6.0
Everyone at our test fest did that, save in cases where the
functionality was not available or altered, the
tests we basically the same for all versions, and i even caught a few
5.2 issues in the process.
I agree in keeping the tests alive for 5.2.
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to the bug tracker?
I'm kinda out of time, but i'm sure i can conjure up someone in the
Brazilian Community that can take a look into it, any RFC's around?
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&red, &green, &blue, &alpha) == FAILURE) {
+if (zend_parse_parameters(ZEND_NUM_ARGS() TSRMLS_CC, "r", &IM,
&red, &green, &blue, &alpha) == FAILURE) {
RETURN_FALSE;
}
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ary, you should gaina lot in performance and other tweaks.
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his request please?
>
> I did that yesterday already :P
>
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> 2009/7/7 Ilia Alshanetsky :
> > Last week or so there was a fairly detailed discussion on the internals
> list
> > regarding type hinting based on my original patch. Since then the patch
> has
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