Hi, all
At first, Thanks for all your work put in here, Marcio. It gave me a new
hint for a possible code-failure.
FYI: PhpStorm lately added an inspector for that. Glad to see that move
after I heard that the RFC won't pass.
https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/WI-14692
Bye,
Simon
On Mon, Mar
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Nikita Popov nikita@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Marc Bennewitz dev@mabe.berlin wrote:
Am 25.11.2014 um 22:43 schrieb Levi Morrison:
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Marc Bennewitz dev@mabe.berlin wrote:
I think it's required to
Hi, Andrea
I feel more like Sherif Ramadan. Even so I've quite often been in the same
situation, I don't think it's a good solution to change something like
that, just for the shorthand-operator.
I think, the notice is really valuable when accessing the value and doing
something with it - like
, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Simon Schick simonsimc...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi, all
Inspired by the link http://www.phpinternalsbook.com/, provided by Ferenc
Kovacs in the thread [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG document lacking argument,
I wondered why we don't gather useful links for internal PHP documentation
Hi, all
Inspired by the link http://www.phpinternalsbook.com/, provided by Ferenc
Kovacs in the thread [PHP-DEV] About PHP NG document lacking argument,
I wondered why we don't gather useful links for internal PHP documentation
on the php.net website.
At the time I asked for material to
My main concern about the RFC the way it stands right now is that the
current direction involves E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR instead of E_STRICT or E_CAST
for data loss. This results in both consistency issues with casting as well
as incompatibility with the dynamic nature of PHP scalars. I know the
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Theodore Brown theodor...@outlook.com wrote:
Since I am very much in favour of scalar type hints, I've updated the
patch to master and made some minor improvements, and I am re-opening
the RFC with the intent to try and get it into PHP 5.7.
First of all, this
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Matthew Leverton lever...@gmail.com wrote:
The big difference here is if I accept an options array, I understand
that the keys are important and would never break backward
compatibility by changing a parameter name. This isn't a case of if
you don't like it,
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Matthew Leverton lever...@gmail.com wrote:
The OCD in me shudders to think about now having to parse through
people's code like:
substr('length' = 1, 'string' = 'Hello World');
Hi, Matthew
Wouldn't this just fail, because one required parameter is omitted?
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Jakub Zelenka bu...@php.net wrote:
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Simon Schick simonsimc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
Hey Simon,
PS, please don't top-reply as per mailinglist guidelines
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Hey Simon,
PS, please don't top-reply as per mailinglist guidelines:
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On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Simon Schick wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Derick Rethans der
://blog.ircmaxell.com/search/label/PHP%20Source%20Code%20For%20PHP%20Developers%20Series
)
Bye,
Simon
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Derick Rethans der...@php.net wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013, Simon Schick wrote:
I'd like to extend the API of php by a method.
Great, let me know if you need any help
Hi, Anthony
Some questions coming up in my mind by reading this RFC:
* Will the value of the constant *PASSWORD_DEFAULT* remain unchanged
forever? Otherwise this lib, in my opinion, can cause big problems when
trying to port an existing system to a newer PHP-version.
* Is this a native version
Hi, Anthony
I personally would rename the 2nd parameter to $data as this function is
not only meant for creating secure hashes from passwords.
Bye
Simon
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello all,
I've written up a quick draft version of an RFC for
Hi, Everyone
FYI: If you just want to check something before serving a file to the
client, you can also use something called xsendfile.
Apache: https://tn123.org/mod_xsendfile/
lighttpd: It's build in :)
nginx: http://wiki.nginx.org/XSendfile
Idea:
Do what you're doing in your php-script and
2012/4/17 Nikita Popov nikita@googlemail.com
var_dump('123' == '0x7b'); // true
In all other parts of the engine hexadecimal strings are not recognized
[3]:
var_dump((int) '0x7b'); // int(0)
Hi, Nikita
I personally would rather change the type-conversion for strings to integer ...
At
2012/4/17 Gustavo Lopes glo...@nebm.ist.utl.pt:
I think that would be an error. As was mentioned a few months ago when 0b
was introduced, no other number format has this behavior. You can't do 123
== 0b10 or 123 == 0876. Extending this hexadecimal oddity instead of
eliminating it is
2012/4/17 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, Gustavo
That's something I didn't know of ... if we're doing that, it should,
of course, be also be done for the dual system.
The only thing I wonder about is the code examples you're giving ...
I would expect this to work if we start
2012/4/16 Ralph Schindler ra...@ralphschindler.com
I am not quite following. There is no functional difference between
class, CLASS, or Class. The parser is case insensitive with regards
to keywords, which class or T_CLASS is on of. The code snipped I showed
there was from the .phpt test
2012/4/16 Ralph Schindler ra...@ralphschindler.com
... PHP does not invoke the autoloader to determine if the class name
actually exists as a declaration somewhere, it simply resolves it according
to some very specific rules (in the case of this patch, carried out by
Hi, Michael
2012/4/13 Michael Morris dmgx.mich...@gmail.com
It would not be easy. I lack the skills required. And those who have
the skills lack the monumental time required. But PHP could do what
Adobe did with Actionscript. But it would not be easy or painless. It
probably isn't worth
2012/4/13 Dmitri Snytkine dsnytk...@ultralogistics.com:
I always wondered why can't we do something like this in php
class MyClass{
private $storage = new ArrayObject();
public function __construct($v){
// whatever
}
// rest of class
}
Why can't we create a new object and assign it
2012/4/14 Ralph Schindler ra...@ralphschindler.com:
Hi all,
There are many different use cases were in code we expect classes names as
arguments to functions as fully qualified names. We do this in ZF a lot
with our Service Location and DI components, but also with our code
reflection API,
2012/3/19 David Soria Parra d...@php.net:
Hi Internals,
The initial migration is done and initial testing was successful.
http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=summary
http://github.com/php/php-src
Please note that some branches and tags were renamed to make
the repository cleaner.
2012/3/19 Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com:
Hey,
Could we modify the workflow to recommend using the --no-ff switch when
merging in a feature branch? This is by and large the recommended approach
as it preserves the feature branch's commit history, making it
*much*easier to sort through
2012/3/19 Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com:
Simon,
Yes that's a great recommendation and it should definitely be included
IMHO! However, the merge.ff option is relatively new and is not available
in many older Git clients that are still in use. So the --no-ff tag will
still probably be
2012/3/18 John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.com:
2. Unenforced type hinting:
This almost happened in 5.4, but eventually got pulled. More interestingly,
the *community* rejected it because it is useless. See the comments at
2012/3/18 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com:
2012/3/18 John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.com:
2. Unenforced type hinting:
This almost happened in 5.4, but eventually got pulled. More interestingly,
the *community* rejected it because it is useless. See the comments at
http
2012/3/18 Adam Jon Richardson adamj...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Simon Schick
simonsimc...@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi, All
Just to add an example why I want a more strictly type-check here as
we have in the current type-juggling:
http://www.brandonsavage.net/an-xss
from scratch and take
the best of each one.
Do you have time to support this project by giving ideas, writing
code, helping to find good principles, code review or something else?
Bye
Simon
2012/2/19 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, All
I found one RFC in the php-wiki that requests
2012/3/16 Ángel González keis...@gmail.com
On 16/03/12 18:45, Lütfi Altın wrote:
I want to read PHP source and help PHP for further development.
You don't need a svn account to read the php source. You can just
download the source from http://php.net/downloads.php#v5 view the
development
Hi, all
Today I read a post around that:
http://nikic.github.com/2012/03/06/Scalar-type-hinting-is-harder-than-you-think
As some of us are leading to the 3rd and some to the 4th or other ways
described in here (I think we can simply exclude the first one ...)
Would it be an option (to get this
Hi, All
I just came around that talk a couple of days ago ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Cq3CLI6H8
I don't know much about hash-maps and internal php-stuff at all, but
they say that the fix provided in 5.3.9 (and 5.4.0) is more a
work-around than a fix ...
Would it be an option to provide a
Hi, All
I just came around that talk a couple of days ago ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Cq3CLI6H8
I don't know much about hash-maps and internal php-stuff at all, but they
say that the fix provided in 5.3.9 (and 5.4.0) is more a work-around than a
fix ...
Would it be an option to provide a
2012/3/12 Lazare Inepologlou linep...@gmail.com
function set_check_box_state( bool state = false ) { ... }
set_check_box_state( null ); // null will be converted to false here...
Therefore, this cannot work, unless the default value becomes null, which
is against the requirements. What I
2012/3/10 Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com
hi Pierrick,
I would rather go with php-next. The amount of changes are not safe
for a now very stable version in 5.3 and 5.4 (same code base), while
the code could be nicer as you did it in trunk.
Cheers,
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 5:57 PM,
2012/3/10 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:
Am 10.03.2012 18:28, schrieb Simon Schick:
I'd like to see a new interface for curl in php ... I have no special
idea how, but I heard from several people that they pretty much don't
like the way curl is implemented in php.
many other people
Hi, all
At first, many thanks to Anthony for writing the code!
2012/3/9 Anthony Ferrara ircmax...@gmail.com
fooi(1.5); // int(1)
Here an E_NOTICE would be a minimum as we are modifying the data. I'd
like to see an E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR as well. You should use
float-casting instead if you want to
2012/3/9 Lazare Inepologlou linep...@gmail.com
Yes, like that, only better. Since automatic type casting is central in
PHP, as this is evident after all this discussion, I believe that it
should
be better supported. There are two thinks that I would like to see here:
1. No more magic
2012/3/9 Lazare Inepologlou linep...@gmail.com
Type casting combined with passing by reference is problematic in many ways.
Just an example:
fuction foo( string $buffer) { ... }
foo( $my_buffer );
Here, $my_buffer has just been declared, so it is null. Should this be an
error? I don't
Hi,
Yea! I really need that too.
One thing I can provide is my own blog, but it's more stuff about bugs in
systems, ideas I come around and implementation-possibilities. Nothing
really internal.
http://www.simonsimcity.net/
Other interesting blogs (all in german):
http://www.phpgangsta.de/
2012/3/8 Remi Collet r...@fedoraproject.org
But mhash_001.phpt and mhash_003.phpt should not fail
(if we want a great PHP with 0 test failed).
Hi, all
That's what I would like to have ...
It would be perfect if new versions were not brought out if some tests
still fail.
I read some posts in
2012/3/8 Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net:
Am 08.03.2012 17:05, schrieb Michael Morris:
Thoughts?
Sounds pointless/useless to me.
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2012/3/8 Sebastian Bergmann sebast...@php.net:
Am 08.03.2012 17:05, schrieb Michael Morris:
Thoughts?
Sounds pointless/useless to me.
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Hi Arvids,
I pretty much like this idea as it's more strict. Let me say something
to the questions you pointed out here.
2012/3/7 Arvids Godjuks arvids.godj...@gmail.com:
I realize that with scalars it's not that straight forward, but
complicating things by adding an auto-cast syntax and so on
.
function foo(int $d = 20) { var_dump($d); }
foo(null); // This should then also fail. Don't care about what's the
default-value.
Bye
Simon
2012/3/8 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com:
Hi Arvids,
I pretty much like this idea as it's more strict. Let me say something
to the questions you
2012/3/8 John Crenshaw johncrens...@priacta.com:
Conversion the other way is essential. Consider the following URL:
http://example.com?foo=1
In your PHP script $_GET['foo'] === '1' (a string).
In fact, nearly every input to PHP is a string. This is why PHP was designed
with some
Hi,
It got quite around that because we have some RFCs to this where the
functionality seems to be defined as the people thought it should be.
Otherwise they can raise their hands and write a mail that they want to
update the RFC - but as there's no one doing that, I think we're quite
close to
Hi, Lazare
This is something not obvious, at least for me, and should be handled in
the function itself.
Here it would be better to update the function *add()* that you could also
pass mixed and it will try to generate a *DateInterval *out of that or
whatever.
But that's another RFC.
Hi, Lazare
In your examples you are accessing an maybe non-existing array-key.
This will raise an E_NOTICE. See the note below this example:
http://php.net/manual/en/language.types.array.php#example-85
Maybe you also want something like that:
isset($x) ? (is_null($x) ? null : (int)$x) : null
to the whole proposal.
Lazare INEPOLOGLOU
Ingénieur Logiciel
2012/3/5 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, Lazare
In your examples you are accessing an maybe non-existing array-key.
This will raise an E_NOTICE. See the note below this example:
http://php.net/manual/en
Hi, Anthony
At first, thanks for your great work!
As I have to learn C and C++ from scratch it was quite a good help to have
someone like you pushing it forwards.
I like having the casting exactly in the definition of the function, even
if it just saves the 6 characters. You have all information
Hi, Kris
I have to confirm that that's not really what I wanted.
But many people were now talking about type-hint to scalar, but that was
maybe in another thread in this list :)
To get more to the point what were discussing about want:
Why not always (at least try) to transform the data?
In PHP
an option to give an object in here that implements all
interfaces that makes an object accessible as an array - for example
ArrayIterator.
Bye
Simon
2012/3/2 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, Kris
I have to confirm that that's not really what I wanted.
But many people were now talking
Hi, all
It's really hard to make a decision here because you also have to care
about big companies in one way, that have not updated to PHP 5.3 now ...
But instead of that I read some posts from November last year that they
have PHP6 in their control-panel, what is basically PHP 5.4 beta ...
One
Hi, Adam
I just get the feeling that this is exactly what we're currently discovered
in some other threads in this mailing-list.
We're now getting more and more closer to what we really want and a good
way to write it the PHP-way.
Please try to get a rough overview over the last messages we
Hi, John
Just to add an idea to yours ..
Do you think it's a compatibility-break if we'd decide to send a E_NOTICE
or E_WARNING if we f.e. try to give a string to a method that just allows
integer for this argument?
No break at all, just a E_NOTICE or E_WARNING as the script can succeed
anyways.
the conversion behavior. (I'm not seeing a way to do
this
one, unless we redefine consistent.)
John Crenshaw
Priacta, Inc.
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On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Simon Schick
Hi, all
When will the documentation be ready?
For example you wrote that something has changed to the keywords *continue *and
*break *- but I dont get what and it's not defined in here:
http://www.php.net/manual/en/control-structures.continue.php
Bye
Simon
2012/3/2 Kris Craig
Hi, John
I personally do not care about weak or strong variables at all ... I only
want what Arvids suggested last time:
test(1, 2); // 2;
test(1, 2); // 2
test(1aaa, 2); // E_NOTICE or E_TYPE and result 2
test(array(2), 2); // E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR - just like with array type
hint now.
It's
Hi,
We could even combine this with the following RFC:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/object_cast_magic
If an integer is required and you pass an object, it first checks if this
object is castable to integer ;)
Bye
Simon
2012/2/29 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, John
I personally do
it it's in one big chunk.
Decomposition makes it much easier. Type hinting has to have it's own
RFC.
Besides - someone can be willing to do type hinting patch and don't
want to do the object_cast_magic one.
And thanks for the support :)
2012/2/29 Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
Hi, all
I just read this post about a vulnerability by loading doctype-declaration
of an xml-string given in a request:
http://www.idontplaydarts.com/2011/02/scanning-the-internal-network-using-simplexml/
Would it be a good point to restrict which urls can be loaded in the
doctype, or is the
Hi, Kris
I don't think we have to care about scripts that are written right now if
we're talking about throwing an E_RECOVERABLE_ERROR or E_WARNING because
this feature is completely new. But I like the idea to have all type-hint
failures ending up the same way.
I personally would keep the
for
this. I'll go ahead and create one after a little more discussion goes
around.
--Kris
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Simon Schick
simonsimc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi, Kris
I don't think we have to care about scripts that are written right now
if we're talking about throwing
Hi, All
Sorry for pulling the old RFCs out. But why is their status is still *in
draft* or something like that? I did not know something about the
6-month-rule.
That's also what I mentioned before with the missing solution ... If you
close an RFC or set it to *accepted*, please also write what
love to hear them! I think that could be very helpful in
future RFCs, so if there's any interest I'll go ahead and draft one for
this.
--Kris
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Simon Schick simonsimc...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi, All
Sorry for pulling the old RFCs out. But why
Hi, Dmitri
Great that someone's mentioning it.
I thought about that several times but did not put it in here.
This is a must-have for me. Really useful if you're working with external
resources (streams, database connection etc).
I used a destructor until now for stuff like that but there are
Hey, Michael
This is by far the best possible way I read in the whole conversation.
I like the way of backwards-compatibility, error-reporting and so on.
This is would be very useful and would not disturb someone's
framework-combination.
This should be written down in a new RFC.
For all who
Hi, Arvids
I do understand your arguments ...
For me personally it's mostly to separate between string and numbers. A
string to number transformation is most-likely not without loosing
something ... This is most likely the reason why I want to have a E_STRICT
or E_NOTICE if something like that
Hi, Richard
The development of the unicode-as-default-charset should really be done
within the next release coming after 5.4
I heared somewhere that it's nearly done ...
I would have happily seen it in 5.4 but as this release is late right now
we have to wait ;)
Bye
Simon
p.s. *
Hei, Richard
I've looked into the php.ini.* files of PHP 5.4 for windows and saw the
following line in *production*:
error_reporting = E_ALL ~E_DEPRECATED ~E_STRICT
display_errors = On
log_errors = On
and the following line in *development*:
error_reporting = E_ALL
display_errors = Off
Hi,
This does not seem like a good way for me ...
Think about combining many scripts.
It's for example quite usual to use Symfony and parts of Zend Framework
together. Think about what will happen if the one framework uses another
autocast logic ...
Bye
Simon
2012/2/27 Anthony Ferrara
Hi, Daniel
I'd also set the collation to *utf8_unicode_ci*. Here's a link to the full
diff of the *my.cnf* file I am using on my dev-server:
https://github.com/SimonSimCity/webserver-configuration/blob/master/mysql/patch.diff
Bye
Simon
2012/2/24 Daniel Convissor dani...@analysisandsolutions.com
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