Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Christian Strauf (JOIN)
Ralph, > The host behavior when the M/O flags transition from set to unset is a > little less clear. In the case of the O flag, the host will stop using > DHCPv6 for other configuration information. Should it also stop using the > configuration information it received through DHCPv6? > > Simila

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 15:04:17 -0400, > Ralph Droms <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > 3. (optionally) make a separate document (standard or BCP) on how to >> >interact the protocols with these flags > Can you give some examples of what conditions or interactions might be > included in s

Re: ICMPv3: Message Source Address Determination..

2004-05-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 14:34:47 -0500, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I agree that we should not try to remove already > documented features in recycling work if it is > not causing any harm. Before making detailed discussions, I'd repeat my position to avoid confusion. I can live with eit

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Erik Nordmark
> I think Jinmei-san suggested deleting the whole notion of an > internal-to-the-implementation ManagedFlag and OtherConfigFlag. I > extrapolated from that suggestion that the host would (in a stateless way) > base its behavior on the most recently received values for M/O (which, I > guess, means

RE: ICMPv3: Message Source Address Determination..

2004-05-17 Thread Mukesh . Gupta
Jinmei, I agree that we should not try to remove already documented features in recycling work if it is not causing any harm. But the current RFC says "If the node has more than one unicast address, it must choose the Source Address of the message as follows:". It is not MUST in all caps but

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Ralph Droms
I think Jinmei-san suggested deleting the whole notion of an internal-to-the-implementation ManagedFlag and OtherConfigFlag. I extrapolated from that suggestion that the host would (in a stateless way) base its behavior on the most recently received values for M/O (which, I guess, means the implem

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Ralph Droms
I am basically in agreement with your approach; here are a couple of specific comments: > 1. clarify (change) the meaning of the M/O flags; they are just hints >of availability of the corresponding services, not triggers for >invoking the protocols under a certain level of requirement Rat

RE: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Christian Huitema
> >> Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is > >> still silent, I'll start revising the document anyway. > > I support all of your proposed changes. > > Same here. Me too -- Christian Huitema --

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Alain Durand
On May 17, 2004, at 2:09 AM, Christian Strauf (JOIN) wrote: Jinmei, Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is still silent, I'll start revising the document anyway. I support all of your proposed changes. Same here. - Alain. -

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Erik Nordmark
Overall your proposal is good. > - remove "requirement" sentences like the following one > If the value of ManagedFlag changes from FALSE to TRUE, > and the host is not already running the stateful address > autoconfiguration protocol, the host should invoke the stateful > ad

DNS support in the Node Requirements draft

2004-05-17 Thread john . loughney
Hi all, Based upon some discussion regarding a DISCUSS during IESG review, I am updating section 5.2 DNS Current text says: DNS, as described in [RFC-1034], [RFC-1035], [RFC-3152], [RFC-3363] and [RFC-3596] MAY be supported. Not all nodes will need to resolve names. All nodes that nee

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Tim Chown
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 08:17:04PM +0900, JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > > Please let me check: are you suggesting to replace the "should"s with > "may"s instead of removing these sentences (which is my proposal)? Yes. I suspect implementations may do both, thus rather than impl

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Mon, 17 May 2004 10:01:44 +0100, > Tim Chown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is >> still silent, I'll start revising the document anyway. > I agree with the changes, though... >> > - remove "requirement" sentences l

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Christian Strauf (JOIN)
Jinmei, > Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is > still silent, I'll start revising the document anyway. I support all of your proposed changes. Christian IETF IPv6 working group mailing list

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread Tim Chown
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 05:42:29PM +0900, JINMEI Tatuya / [EMAIL PROTECTED]@C#:H wrote: > > Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is > still silent, I'll start revising the document anyway. I agree with the changes, though... > > - remove "requirement" sentences l

Re: [rfc2462bis] relationship between M/O flags and related protocols

2004-05-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Are folks happy with the following approach? I've not seen any objections (or any agreements either), but I'm not sure if I can start editing based on the proposal, considering the fact that this is quite a big set of changes. Explicit support or objections are highly appreciated. If the list is

Re: ICMPv3: Message Source Address Determination..

2004-05-17 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Thu, 13 May 2004 14:54:23 -0500, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Pekka raised a concern about the usability of one of the > methods (section 2.2 (c)) to select the source address > of the ICMPv3 packet. I want to know if anyone has > implemented it ? or how useful and practical this