Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6man-impatient-nud-02.txt

2012-08-01 Thread Erik Nordmark
Original Message Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-6man-impatient-nud-02.txt Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 16:48:19 -0700 From: internet-dra...@ietf.org To: nordm...@cisco.com CC: i...@yahoo-inc.com A new version of I-D, draft-ietf-6man-impatient-nud-02.txt has been

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 01:06 +, Liubing (Leo) wrote: You mentioned the ambiguous M flag in RA, indeed this is a problem, and it has been disscussed in 6renum WG. So if you're still consern about the issue, looking forward to hear some comments from you, either on the mics or in the mail.

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012, Karl Auer wrote: I'll preface all this my saying that I think the M and O flags as generally implemented and used are pretty much useless. The best thing to do with them would be to deprecate them altogether. I know of one vendor device (I'm trying to get them to change)

RS reliability vs frequent RAs

2012-08-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
In the past the frequency of sending RAs has been improved reducing interval down to milliseconds, with the goal of getting connectivity faster, in mobility scenarios. Would this be enough for these cases? Alex IETF IPv6

Re: RS reliability vs frequent RAs

2012-08-01 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: In the past the frequency of sending RAs has been improved reducing interval down to milliseconds, with the goal of getting connectivity faster, in mobility scenarios. = do you mean to misuse RAs as a beacon (:-)? Seriously the issue is pretty similar to

draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02

2012-08-01 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Wouldn't it be an option to have all applications systems accept as input both formats, but only give as output the new one? i.e. browsers already rewrite URIs. -- Tassos IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org

Luis Santos's question on rfc3484bis

2012-08-01 Thread Dave Thaler
I mentioned this at the mic during the meeting and now posting the same to the list... Luis Santos asked a question to the authors which I'll explain to the list as follows. RFC 3484, and RFC 3484 bis, specify an algorithm whereby a set of destination addresses are sorted, and a source address

Re: draft-ietf-6man-uri-zoneid-02

2012-08-01 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 09:42:44AM -0700, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Wouldn't it be an option to have all applications systems accept as input both formats, but only give as output the new one? i.e. browsers already rewrite URIs. There are other standards that currently state that % is

Additional measurement information about draft-savolainen-6man-optimal-transmission-window

2012-08-01 Thread Teemu Savolainen
Hi, I just promised to send some additional information about the power consumption graphs I was just showing. The idle current draw (WiFi tethering on, phone on, cellular idle) in one of the measurement was about 138mA (in the figures I had this was the zero-line). When the cellular interface

draft-gont-6man-predictable-fragment-id

2012-08-01 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
I personally like the idea of making it a standard, just to have it as a reference for future IPv6 implementations. imho, security related issues should preferably be solved by changing the protocol, unless it's too much work; strict recommendations should then be given. We had a hard time in

RE: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, all Firstly, thanks for Karl's elaborate analysis and solution proposal for the M/O issue. I think that's definitely reasonable reference if we want to fix the issue. But as some comments showed in this morning's 6man meeting, some people thought it is not necessary to fix the M/O issue

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 01/08/2012 13:35, Liubing (Leo) a écrit : Hi, all Firstly, thanks for Karl's elaborate analysis and solution proposal for the M/O issue. I think that's definitely reasonable reference if we want to fix the issue. But as some comments showed in this morning's 6man meeting, some people

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 17:58 -0700, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: The choice today is more than b/w 'if M then DHCP is available otherwise SLAAC'. That has never been the choice. It's never been either/or, one excluding the other. Rock solid mechanisms exist to stop hosts doing SLAAC - the autoconf

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 01/08/2012 18:48, Karl Auer a écrit : On Wed, 2012-08-01 at 17:58 -0700, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: The choice today is more than b/w 'if M then DHCP is available otherwise SLAAC'. That has never been the choice. It's never been either/or, one excluding the other. Ok fair enough. The

RE: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Liubing (Leo)
Hi, Karl Thanks for your reply, now I understand your arguments clearly. I think our common view is ambiguity in not good. Then your way is just deprecating them; if don't deprecate, then make it clear. But I just have the opposite approach: since it's ambiguous, we need at least make them

Re: about DHCPv6/SLAAC interaction

2012-08-01 Thread Doug Barton
On 8/1/2012 5:58 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Le 01/08/2012 13:35, Liubing (Leo) a écrit : Hi, all Firstly, thanks for Karl's elaborate analysis and solution proposal for the M/O issue. I think that's definitely reasonable reference if we want to fix the issue. But as some comments showed