Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-20 Thread Brian Haberman
Given that the changes proposed to the ULA spec are in response to IESG Discuss comments, I have not seen reasonable justification to make any of the functional changes mentioned in this thread. Given that, I am directing Bob to only incorporate editorial changes where necessary. For tho

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Pekka, At 07:40 AM 01/18/2005, Pekka Savola wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Brian Haberman wrote: We wanted the working group to review the proposed changes before a new version was submitted. I see no big problem with the changes, but the bullet point one of the Thanks. Good to hear! changes refers

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-20 Thread Bob Hinden
Elwyn, At 03:46 AM 01/19/2005, Elwyn Davies wrote: Hi. Overall this should be out there rsn. However, there are is one point that needs clearing up in the estimation of collision probability (S3.2.3): In para 2 (above the formula), N is stated to be the total number of such IDs whereas in parenth

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-19 Thread Elwyn Davies
Hi. Overall this should be out there rsn. However, there are is one point that needs clearing up in the estimation of collision probability (S3.2.3): In para 2 (above the formula), N is stated to be the total number of such IDs whereas in parentheses after the formula N is defined to be the numbe

RE: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-19 Thread Tony Hain
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 1:50 AM > To: Brian Haberman > Cc: Bob Hinden; IPv6 WG > Subject: Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09) > > I support this version. Although I don't fully agree with > the concerns expressed by some IESG members, I think this > new version

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-18 Thread Mark Smith
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:41:02 -0800 Bob Hinden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian, > > >>>Or, to get this ID moving, remove both suggestions, and leave this > >>>issue to be addressed somewhere else. > >> > >>In my personal view, this would be the best course for now. Later on it > >>would be go

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-18 Thread Bob Hinden
Brian, Or, to get this ID moving, remove both suggestions, and leave this issue to be addressed somewhere else. In my personal view, this would be the best course for now. Later on it would be good to get feedback on how people deploy ULAs in operational networks. For example, this might be a g

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-18 Thread Pekka Savola
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005, Brian Haberman wrote: We wanted the working group to review the proposed changes before a new version was submitted. I see no big problem with the changes, but the bullet point one of the changes refers to was this: The default behavior of exterior routing protocol sessio

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-18 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Bob Hinden wrote: Mark, Combining your two emails. At 04:40 AM 01/17/2005, Mark Smith wrote: (as a side note, this is from Rev 8, the nokia web site resolves to an IPv6 address, I don't seem to be able to get to it via my 6to4 connection though) For link-state IGPs, it is suggested that a site u

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:33:08 -0600 "Stephen Sprunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Part of the problem is "site" has been overloaded to mean "administrative > domain", whereas the common meaning is a single physical location. Neither > makes sense to me in the 09 text, though. > Maybe it would

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Stephen Sprunk
- Original Message - From: "Brian Haberman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Stephen Sprunk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Bob Hinden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mark Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 14:49 Subject:

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Brian Haberman
On Jan 17, 2005, at 14:57, Stephen Sprunk wrote: Thus spake "Bob Hinden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:40 AM 01/17/2005, Mark Smith wrote: (as a side note, this is from Rev 8, the nokia web site resolves to an IPv6 address, I don't seem to be able to get to it via my 6to4 connection though) For l

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Bob Hinden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > At 04:40 AM 01/17/2005, Mark Smith wrote: > >(as a side note, this is from Rev 8, the nokia web site resolves to an > >IPv6 address, I don't seem to be able to get to it via my 6to4 > >connection though) > > > >For link-state IGPs, it is suggested t

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Bob Hinden
Mark, Combining your two emails. At 04:40 AM 01/17/2005, Mark Smith wrote: (as a side note, this is from Rev 8, the nokia web site resolves to an IPv6 address, I don't seem to be able to get to it via my 6to4 connection though) For link-state IGPs, it is suggested that a site utilizing ULA pr

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:10:34 +1030 Mark Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not sure what my opinion is regarding which addressing model would > be best, and maybe there isn't one "best" one. I suppose both of them > could be suggested, with the caveats of each of them described. > Possibly,

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Mark Smith
Hi Bob, Brian, I'm a bit concerned about this suggestion, in section 4.1, Routing : (as a side note, this is from Rev 8, the nokia web site resolves to an IPv6 address, I don't seem to be able to get to it via my 6to4 connection though) For link-state IGPs, it is suggested that a site utilizi

Re: Proposed update to ULA Draft (-09)

2005-01-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I support this version. Although I don't fully agree with the concerns expressed by some IESG members, I think this new version is quite OK, and the quickest way make ULAs available to networks that need them. Brian Brian Haberman wrote: IPv6 WG, In order to resolve the last IESG discuss comment