Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:04:39 -0400, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree a bit with this resolution. These sorts of undetected duplicate addresses do happen in practice, due to network partition/ repair and the effect of things like Spanning Tree's default port blocking. As a

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread James Carlson
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 writes: At Mon, 9 Jul 2007 16:04:39 -0400, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a result, what I've done in the Solaris implementation is to 'defend' the address once -- by sending out my own advertisement in reply to the received one -- but setting a flag. If I

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread James Carlson
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 writes: At Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:43:34 -0400, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How should an implementor actually take care here? Are you perhaps referring to the possibility of endless NA battles between a pair of misconfigured systems? Or something else? I

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
(Intentionally separating the thread since this is irrelevant to the main focus of completing 2462bis) At Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:43:34 -0400, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'd point out the same argument could apply to the two-hour rule adopted in RFC2462 and kept in

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
address that will result in the bad address to be replaced. Hemant -Original Message- From: JINMEI Tatuya / [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 11:18 AM To: James Carlson Cc: ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD (Intentionally

DoS or not? [was Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD]

2007-07-10 Thread James Carlson
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 writes: (Intentionally separating the thread since this is irrelevant to the main focus of completing 2462bis) Agreed; and changed the subject line as well. At Tue, 10 Jul 2007 07:43:34 -0400, James Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, I'd point out

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:03:01 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The gist of your new paragraph is fine by me. However, you have un-fixed what I clearly defined in the past for behavior. The match statement has to apply to tentative address as well as an assigned address.

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-10 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
Message- From: JINMEI Tatuya / [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 12:48 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: James Carlson; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD At Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:03:01 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:18:20 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Tatuya first leaned towards the silent discard behavior because he wanted text in 2462bis to match text in first para of section 7.2.5 of 2461bis. However, I see that as matching apples with oranges. The

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: In conclusion I'd like to propose to change the paragraph of Section 5.4.4 from: On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether the target address is tentative or matches a unicast or anycast

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
8:44 AM To: JINMEI Tatuya / Cc: Hemant Singh (shemant); Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: In conclusion I'd like to propose to change the paragraph of Section 5.4.4 from: On receipt of a valid Neighbor

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Vlad Yasevich
JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉 wrote: On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether the target address is tentative or matches a unicast or anycast address assigned to the interface. If the target address is tentative, the

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:16:01 -0400, Hemant Singh (shemant) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for agreeing with our suggestion to not silently discard the advertisement. The new paragraph from you is still not complete because you have missed the part when a match of target address is not found

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
. Processing anycast with 2461bis sounds fine. Thanks. Hemant -Original Message- From: JINMEI Tatuya / [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:39 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Vlad Yasevich; Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-06 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
At Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:00:10 -0400, Bernie Volz (volz) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though putting this into a list (1., 2., 3.) would likely make it much more readable and parseable. On receipt of a valid Neighbor Advertisement message on an interface, node behavior depends on whether

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-05 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Hemant, Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: Sorry, if I missed the paragraph Tatuya wanted to add. As I said before, could I please see the new para for section 5.4.4 of 2461bis and I will The edit he was proposing was for 2462bis not 2461bis. The old para in section 5.4.4 On receipt of a

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-05 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
:06 PM To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: JINMEI Tatuya / ; ipv6@ietf.org Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD Hi Hemant, Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: Sorry, if I missed the paragraph Tatuya wanted to add. As I said before, could I please see the new para for section 5.4.4

Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-05 Thread Vlad Yasevich
Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: Suresh, Yes, sorry, I had a typo wrt 2461 vs 2462. Thanks so much for providing the para. Now I have a separate question to you folks. What IPv6 network has an interface receiving an NA where the target address in the NA matched an assigned address on the

RE: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD

2007-07-05 Thread Hemant Singh (shemant)
To: Hemant Singh (shemant) Cc: Suresh Krishnan; ipv6@ietf.org; JINMEI Tatuya / Subject: Re: Revisit: one remaining corner case in DAD Hemant Singh (shemant) wrote: Suresh, Yes, sorry, I had a typo wrt 2461 vs 2462. Thanks so much for providing the para. Now I have a separate question