Re: RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-03-08 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Hesham, - Original Message - From: "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, March 8, 2005 10:35 pm Subject: RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > Hi Tatuya, > > I'm not sure what was said in the meeting but at least my inten

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-03-08 Thread Soliman, Hesham
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Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-03-08 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:26:26 +1100, > Greg Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Okay, so this is what was referred to in the meeting today: > How about a paragraph (maybe somewhere else) saying: > "... It is possible that a host may receive a solicitation or a router > advertisement

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-24 Thread Radhakrishnan Suryanarayanan
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "JINMEI Tatuya / " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Mark Doll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Roland Bless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:14 AM Subject: RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO Greg,

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Soliman, Hesham
Hesham > -Original Message- > From: Greg Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:27 PM > To: JINMEI Tatuya / > Cc: Christian Vogt; Soliman, Hesham; Mark Doll; Roland Bless; > ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
Hi, > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:27:02 +1100, > Greg Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It has been a bit confusing with crossing e-mails and > timezone differences. Sorry, I actually noticed the possible confusion when I was writing the messages, but I simply let it go.. > I think that the

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi Jinmei. [...] If there is no existing Neighbor Cache entry for the solicitation's sender and a Source Link-Layer Address option was present in the solicitation, the router creates a new Neighbor Cache entry, installs the link-layer address and sets its reachability state to STALE

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Jinmei, JINMEI Tatuya / çæéå wrote: On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:06:45 +0100, Christian Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: ...to this... [...] If there is no existing Neighbor Cache entry for the solicitation's sender and a Source Link-Layer Address option was present in the solicitatio

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 20:06:45 +0100, > Christian Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > ...to this... >> [...] If there is no existing Neighbor Cache entry >> for the solicitation's sender and a Source Link-Layer Address option >> was present in the solicitation, the router cr

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Christian, Christian Vogt wrote: Hi Hesham, hope this is not too late. Not sure but the text may suggest to create NC state even if the RS did not contain a SLLAO. In this case, it's actually not necessary to create NC state, especially if the router chooses to respond with a multicast RA.

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi Jinmei, Greg, Hesham. JINMEI Tatuya wrote: Greg Daley said: It has been a bit confusing with crossing e-mails and timezone differences. Sorry, I actually noticed the possible confusion when I was writing the messages, but I simply let it go.. Actually, the guy who has been messung things up the

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-23 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Jinmei and Christian, It has been a bit confusing with crossing e-mails and timezone differences. I think that there's agreement for clarification. I think that people agree what needs to be clarified. I'm not sure if it's decided where to put the clarification (but I don't care myself, so long

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-22 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 16:26:26 +1100, > Greg Daley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > So if this is the case, we need to describe messages which request a > response or change configuration state without having LLAOs. > How about a paragraph (maybe somewhere else) saying: > "... It is possible

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-22 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 11:18:24 +0100, > Christian Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Ok, your point is the order implied in the text I suggested. I actually > didn't mean to imply this. But yes, the text could potentially be > misinterpreted. So maybe you whish to reduce it to the foll

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-22 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi Greg. - It performs address resolution on the solicitation's sender, creates a new Neighbor Cache entry, installs the link-layer address, sets its reachability state to STALE as specified in Section 7.3.3, and responds with a unicast Router Advertisement directed to the solicitation's sender. I'

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-22 Thread JINMEI Tatuya / 神明達哉
> On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:23:12 -0500, > "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The text now looks like this: > Router Solicitations in which the Source Address is the unspecified > address MUST NOT update the router's Neighbor Cache; solicitations > with a proper source address up

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-21 Thread Christian Vogt
age- From: Greg Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:13 PM To: Christian Vogt Cc: Soliman, Hesham; ipv6@ietf.org; Mark Doll; Roland Bless Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO Hi Christian and Hesham, I think people are asymptoting to the same poi

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-20 Thread Soliman, Hesham
ok thanks. > -Original Message- > From: Greg Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:53 PM > To: Soliman, Hesham > Cc: Christian Vogt; ipv6@ietf.org; Mark Doll; Roland Bless > Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with src

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-20 Thread Greg Daley
at will reflect today's default preference order. Greg Hesham > -Original Message- > From: Greg Daley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 6:13 PM > To: Christian Vogt > Cc: Soliman, Hesham; ipv6@ietf.org; Mark Doll; Roland Bless > Subject:

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-20 Thread Soliman, Hesham
Cc: Soliman, Hesham; ipv6@ietf.org; Mark Doll; Roland Bless > Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > > > Hi Christian and Hesham, > > I think people are asymptoting to the > same point. > > Are we supposed to be suggesting text though? > &

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-20 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Christian and Hesham, I think people are asymptoting to the same point. Are we supposed to be suggesting text though? Christian Vogt wrote: Hi Hesham. > [...] > I guess this is why FreeBSD introduces a new state, NOSTATE. It does > not do immediate address resolution on an entry in this stat

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-20 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi Hesham. > [...] > I guess this is why FreeBSD introduces a new state, NOSTATE. It does > not do immediate address resolution on an entry in this state. It > doesn't need to, because Rtadvd (on FreeBSD) sends multicast > RA's in all > cases except for ISATAP interfaces. => Right, I was

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-19 Thread Soliman, Hesham
AIL PROTECTED]; Soliman, Hesham > Cc: Mark Doll; Roland Bless; ipv6@ietf.org > Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > > > Hi Hesham, Greg. > > > Soliman, Hesham wrote: > >> Christian, Thanks for the detailed description. I think Nick

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-19 Thread Soliman, Hesham
> Greg Daley wrote: > > Putting things in STALE doesn't work unless there's a link-layer > > address known ( and there's none in the received RS). > > Greg is correct. When a node has a packet for a neighbor > for which the > NC entry is STALE, it does send the packet (trial and > er

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-19 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi Hesham, Greg. Soliman, Hesham wrote: Christian, Thanks for the detailed description. I think Nick brought this up some time ago too. My suggestion is that upon reception of an RS with no SLLAO the router checks if an entry already exists, if none exists then it creates one and puts it in STALE.

Re: RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-19 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Hesham, - Original Message - From: "Soliman, Hesham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, February 19, 2005 2:21 pm Subject: RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > Hi Greg, > > I was definitely assuming that address resolution will > take

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-18 Thread Soliman, Hesham
y [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:19 PM > To: Soliman, Hesham > Cc: Christian Vogt; ipv6@ietf.org; Mark Doll; Roland Bless > Subject: Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > > > Hi Hesham, > > Soliman, Hesham wrote

Re: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-18 Thread Greg Daley
Hi Hesham, Soliman, Hesham wrote: Christian, Thanks for the detailed description. I think Nick brought this up some time ago too. My suggestion is that upon reception of an RS with no SLLAO the router checks if an entry already exists, if none exists then it creates one and puts it in STALE. I

RE: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-18 Thread Soliman, Hesham
TECTED] > Behalf Of > Christian Vogt > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 1:17 PM > To: ipv6@ietf.org > Cc: Mark Doll; Roland Bless > Subject: RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO > > > Hi everybody. > > I have one question regarding IPv6 Neigh

RFC 2461[bis]: RS with srcaddr but w/o SLLAO

2005-02-18 Thread Christian Vogt
Hi everybody. I have one question regarding IPv6 Neighbor Discovery: What happens when a router receives a RS with a valid (possibly tentative) source address, but no SLLAO is included? This can happen, for instance, with ODAD, where a host with a tentative address may want to solicit a RA wit