RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread STARK, BARBARA H
> Just I mentioned in previous email, SLAAC is optional WiMAX deployment. The attempt to create an access network without RA/RS is nothing new. Other (e.g., DSL, PON) access network technologies have considered this and determined that the biggest missing piece is route info. Which is the reason

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
012 11:40 PM > To: Xiayangsong > Cc: Ole Trøan; Sheng Jiang; WG; IPv6 List > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" > > But all IPv6 nodes are required to support SLAAC and all > routers are required to generate RAs. What is the meaning >

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread Ole Trøan
> There is no ND at all, that is, no NA/NS/RA/RS etc. the document you references states that ND is used like for any other IPv6 link. where do you get the "no ND" from? as a thought experiment, how would a link without ND function? how do you do router discovery, and address resolution? > You c

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread Xiayangsong
com] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:40 PM To: Xiayangsong Cc: Ole Trøan; Sheng Jiang; WG; IPv6 List Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" But all IPv6 nodes are required to support SLAAC and all routers are required to generate RAs. What is the

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-13 Thread Xiayangsong
:48 AM To: Xiayangsong Cc: Sheng Jiang; WG; IPv6 List Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" Hi, > I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. > Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. > > Could you elaborate your viewpoints? th

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Sheng Jiang
>> I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. >> Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. >> >> Could you elaborate your viewpoints? > >the PIO option in RA has several functions. > >1) with the A-flag on, it is used by SLAAC. >2) with the L-flag on, it is used for onlink determina

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ralph Droms
On Dec 12, 2012, at 2:04 PM 12/12/12, Tim Chown wrote: > On 12 Dec 2012, at 18:48, Ole Trøan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >>> I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. >>> Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. >>> >>> Could you elaborate your viewpoints? >> >> the PIO option in R

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Tim Chown
On 12 Dec 2012, at 18:48, Ole Trøan wrote: > Hi, > >> I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. >> Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. >> >> Could you elaborate your viewpoints? > > the PIO option in RA has several functions. > > 1) with the A-flag on, it is used by SLA

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Hi, > I am a little bit confused what we are talking about. > Our draft is necessary when there is no SLAAC. > > Could you elaborate your viewpoints? the PIO option in RA has several functions. 1) with the A-flag on, it is used by SLAAC. 2) with the L-flag on, it is used for onlink determinatio

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 12, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > But all IPv6 nodes are required to support SLAAC and all > routers are required to generate RAs. What is the meaning > of "no SLAAC"? A router advertisement that doesn't offer any prefixes where stateless autoconfiguration is enabled? --

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Sheng Jiang > Cc: WG; IPv6 List > Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" > > Sheng, > >>>>> I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a >>>>> DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. >

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Xiayangsong
, December 12, 2012 5:10 PM To: Sheng Jiang Cc: WG; IPv6 List Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" Sheng, >>>> I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a >>>> DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. >>>>

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. ND is required for router discovery, neighbour discovery etc anyway. and a router on the link must be configured with the onlink prefix regardless. >>>

RE: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Sheng Jiang
>-Original Message- >From: Ole Trøan [mailto:otr...@employees.org] >Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:39 PM >To: Sheng Jiang >Cc: WG; IPv6 List >Subject: Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" > >Sheng, > >>> I think the argum

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-12 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, >> I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a >> DHCPv6-managed network without ND is flawed. >> ND is required for router discovery, neighbour discovery etc anyway. and a >> router on the link must be configured >> with the onlink prefix regardless. >> >> while we can

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-10 Thread Xiayangsong
: Sheng Jiang; WG; IPv6 List Subject: Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" > - we shouldn't create new DHCPv6 options with T1/T2 timers. those should be > put in a separate option > Frank=>Please give me a link so that I could check the "SHOULDN&

Re: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-10 Thread Ole Trøan
> - we shouldn't create new DHCPv6 options with T1/T2 timers. those should be > put in a separate option > Frank=>Please give me a link so that I could check the "SHOULDN'T" rule. wouldn't go as far as claiming it is a "SHOULD NOT". http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-stateful-issue

RE: [dhcwg] Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-10 Thread Xiayangsong
draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6" Sheng, > Back in Atlanta, in DHC WG meeting, you said you would review the document. > Could you give the comments? I knew that would come back and haunt me. ;) comments below. also included dhc and 6man >> Draft: Prefi

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-06 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Ole, > in general I think the use case presented is already supported by DHCPv6 > address assignment; the client puts > the addresses it desire as hints in the IA_NA option in DHCPv6 requests. > > I think the argument given in the draft for operators wanting a > DHCPv6-managed network withou

Re: Review of draft "Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6"

2012-12-06 Thread Ole Trøan
Sheng, > Back in Atlanta, in DHC WG meeting, you said you would review the document. > Could you give the comments? I knew that would come back and haunt me. ;) comments below. also included dhc and 6man >> Draft: Prefix Assignment in DHCPv6 >> Presenter: Sheng Jiang >> URL:http://