Re: FW: [important proposal] Cocoon as official Apache project

2002-10-30 Thread Serge Knystautas
Yeah, I saw this and thought about James... we've got the server, the mailet API, and a collection of mailets all as possible subprojects. Or maybe multiple mailet packages... some standard ones, then others that are more like stand-alone apps. -- Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies -

RE: FW: [important proposal] Cocoon as official Apache project

2002-10-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
we've got the server, the mailet API, and a collection of mailets all as possible subprojects. Or maybe multiple mailet packages... some standard ones, then others that are more like stand-alone apps. James would be a fine top level project. And it is really very independent of anything

RE: FW: [important proposal] Cocoon as official Apache project

2002-10-30 Thread alan.gerhard
James would be a fine top level project. And it is really very independent of anything else, except for the hidden dependence upon Avalon. --- Noel which can be crippling at times. in going top-level, it must be very clear that all dependencies are either removed or explicitly spelled

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-19 Thread Danny Angus
If thats what you want to do we can put out another dated 2.1a1. d. As I said in another e-mail, let's put out a 2.1a2 Milestone Build to replace the ancient May 30 2.1a1 Milestone, and I'll feel much better for our end users. --- Noel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-19 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
James' code isn't undocumented, but there are various uncommented members, so Peter is trying to complete the documentation. The same can be said of org.apache.poi. For example, AbstractFunctionPtg is missing javadocs for a number of members. I'll bite... While this is a tad offtopic...

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-19 Thread Danny Angus
or something as fundamental as the correct documentation for how to setup a database URL (which is correct in the CVS, and wrong in the current download). If this is the case it because the docs have been fixed. And.. you should only consider the relevance of the stable release versions'

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-19 Thread Danny Angus
Thank you. Would you mind if a message went out on James-User telling folks that we're working towards a new Release Build, and asking them for contributions towards the documentation? They could contribute actual bits of documentation, or just questions that they are having trouble with.

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-19 Thread Danny Angus
You did. :-) My question was about soliciting documentation contributions. solicit away. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Vincent Keunen
Thanks Peter, for your message that makes things move forward. I'm adding some comments about the specific item of javadocs. First, I must say that I agree with 2 comments from Noel: Internal Documentation Absolutely necessary. But NOT to hold up the 2.1 release. We can continue to

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Vincent Keunen wrote: Thanks Peter, for your message that makes things move forward. I'm adding some comments about the specific item of javadocs. First, I must say that I agree with 2 comments from Noel: Internal Documentation Absolutely necessary. But NOT to hold up the 2.1 release.

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Peter M. Goldstein
offline, but I stand by my original wish list entry. --Peter -Original Message- From: Vincent Keunen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 7:13 AM To: James Developers List Subject: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?) Thanks Peter

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
by my original wish list entry. --Peter -Original Message- From: Vincent Keunen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 7:13 AM To: James Developers List Subject: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?) Thanks Peter, for your message

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Vincent Keunen wrote: First, I must say that I agree with 2 comments from Noel: Internal Documentation Absolutely necessary. But NOT to hold up the 2.1 release. We can continue to upgrade the web site with new documentation, and any serious developer should be working from the CVS

RE: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Peter, I agree with almost all of your points. The only ones that I disagree with are: observation of the changelog indicates, leaving javadoc out vs. adding javadoc has not made the development any faster. I disagree, in a way that you'll like. I think that accurate javadocs facilitates

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I totally disagree with just about everything Noel said except for the end. Development builds milestone builds or whatever, should not be delayed for quality concerns. It just can't be blessed as a release. As long as everyone understands that documentation is as important as code and that

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 20:40:35 -0400 Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone is agreeing that the documentation is necessary. But javadocs for developers is not a reason to hold end users hostage. I love this sentence, But javadocs for developers is not a reason to hold end users

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
No, I'm pragmatic and you just don't like it. This isn't about some ivory tower notion of what makes good code. This is about lots of James users who are stuck using buggy code and bad documention while we sit here using the good stuff and arguing over when to deliver it to them. What

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
To be honest Tetsuya, it makes me scared to use it. Javadoc to me is so basic and takes so little time, to actually argue against it... To me this is the same as an argument to write variables a1, a2, a3... Its code quality. This is an active argument for poor code quality and I can't

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Serge Knystautas
: gmane.comp.jakarta.james.devel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 11:21 PM Subject: Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?) To be honest Tetsuya, it makes me scared to use it. Javadoc to me is so basic and takes so little time, to actually argue against

Re: about javadocs (was: Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?)

2002-08-18 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
Hi, Andy and all. On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 23:21:42 -0400 Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be honest Tetsuya, it makes me scared to use it. Javadoc to me is so basic and takes so little time, to actually argue against it... To me this is the same as an argument to write variables

Re: FW: What do we need to release 2.1?

2002-08-16 Thread Stephen McConnell
Peter M. Goldstein wrote: All, Apologies for the cross-post folks - this was supposed to go to james-dev, not james-user. --Peter -Original Message- From: Peter M. Goldstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 1:56 PM To: 'James Users List' Subject: What do we

Re: FW: problem sending email, body in Rich Text Format / Plain Text

2002-04-03 Thread Serge Knystautas
Kishore, This is a bug in JavaMail. I see this error message occassionally in my logs but never had the email source that was causing it. You'll have to follow-up with Sun on this one as we're rather dependent on their library for MIME parsing and writing. I think JavaMail 1.3 is about to

Re: FW: Starting James in same jvm

2002-02-20 Thread Paul Hammant
Chris, Make you application a Phoenix block. depend on the interfaces offered by James for true interaction. Be in the same VM as Jo!, JabberServer, AvalonDB, Jesktop, etc etc too. - Paul -Original Message- From: Forbes, Chris Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 9:02 PM To:

RE: FW: current version of James?

2002-01-09 Thread Danny Angus
thanks Pete. -Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 12:17 PM To: James Developers List Subject: Re: FW: current version of James? On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 23:13, Danny Angus wrote: what I can't do, no account on deadalus