Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-12 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
:54 PM Subject: Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning All it takes is one line in the announcement saying "Version 3.0 uses Java 1.5" I don't think the significance will be lost on anyone. Everyone knows what Java 1.5 is. I'm -1 on calling it 4.0. People will th

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread Chris Hostetter
: I'm fine with the plan as far as I understand it, but can you clarify : something for me? : : While 3.0 won't be backward compatible in that it requires Java 5.0, will it : be otherwise backward compatible? That is, if I compile with 2.9, eliminate : all deprecations and use Java 5, can I drop 3

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread DM Smith
Grant Ingersoll wrote: All it takes is one line in the announcement saying "Version 3.0 uses Java 1.5" I don't think the significance will be lost on anyone. Everyone knows what Java 1.5 is. I'm -1 on calling it 4.0. People will then ask where is 3.0. I am +1 for sticking w/ the plan we vo

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
All it takes is one line in the announcement saying "Version 3.0 uses Java 1.5" I don't think the significance will be lost on anyone. Everyone knows what Java 1.5 is. I'm -1 on calling it 4.0. People will then ask where is 3.0. I am +1 for sticking w/ the plan we voted for as describe

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread Doron Cohen
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 9:21 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grant Ingersoll wrote: > > We voted to make 3.0 Java 1.5, full well knowing that it will break > > the back compat. requirements. I don't see the point of postponing it > > or dragging it out. > > I thought his suggestion was

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread DM Smith
Grant Ingersoll wrote: We voted to make 3.0 Java 1.5, full well knowing that it will break the back compat. requirements. I don't see the point of postponing it or dragging it out. I thought his suggestion was to skip 3.0 as a designator and instead use 4.0. If so, the schedule would not cha

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread Grant Ingersoll
We voted to make 3.0 Java 1.5, full well knowing that it will break the back compat. requirements. I don't see the point of postponing it or dragging it out. On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Doron Cohen wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 1

Re: Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-03-10 Thread Doron Cohen
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 4:01 PM, DM Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 1:38 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote: > > > : I'd like to recommend that 3.0 contain the new Java 5 API changes > > and what it > > : replaces be marked deprecated. 3.0 would also remove what was > > deprecated

Going to Java 5. Was: Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-17 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 17, 2008, at 1:38 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote: : If I remember right, the file format changed in 2.1, such that 2.0 could not : read a 2.1 index. that is totally within the bounds of the compatibility statement... http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/BackwardsCompatibility Note that ol

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-16 Thread Chris Hostetter
: If I remember right, the file format changed in 2.1, such that 2.0 could not : read a 2.1 index. that is totally within the bounds of the compatibility statement... http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-java/BackwardsCompatibility >>Note that older releases are never guaranteed to be able to read inde

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-13 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 12, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Chris Hostetter wrote: : Hmm, actually this is probably too restrictive. But maybe we could say : that Lucene 3.0 doesn't have to be able to read indexes built with : versions older than 2.0? that is in fact the position that lucene has had since as long as i

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Busch
Chris Hostetter wrote: > : Hmm, actually this is probably too restrictive. But maybe we could say > : that Lucene 3.0 doesn't have to be able to read indexes built with > : versions older than 2.0? > > that is in fact the position that lucene has had since as long as i've ben > involved with it..

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-12 Thread Chris Hostetter
: Hmm, actually this is probably too restrictive. But maybe we could say : that Lucene 3.0 doesn't have to be able to read indexes built with : versions older than 2.0? that is in fact the position that lucene has had since as long as i've ben involved with it... http://wiki.apache.org/lucene-j

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Busch
Michael Busch wrote: > > One question that came to my mind: What's our policy for file format > backwards-compatibility? Is it the same as for APIs. That would mean > that Lucene 3.0 would have to be able to read indexes built with 2.9 but > not with earlier versions. I'd be all for such a policy,

Re: A bit of planning

2008-01-12 Thread Michael Busch
I think we said that we wanted a 2.4 release. There are a bunch of issues with Fix Version 2.4. And it would be nice to get them into 2.4 instead of 3.x, because some of them involve fairly big API changes, like LUCENE-584 or LUCENE-831. Then we could get rid of all the deprecated APIs in 3.0 and c