Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ian Morris Nieves
I wanted to raise a few indisputable facts about Java3D to help reassure people that Java3D has a real/serious future. 1) APPLE is putting resources behind Java3D on the mac. Do you remember how LONG that has taken? Do you think Jobs would have done this unless he got someone at SUN to swear on t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Kevin Rushforth
It is certainly true that Java 3D has been scaled back considerably from the level of effort prior to November 2001. The API has been in a holding pattern since March 2002. What we announced in March of this year is a renewed commitment to Java 3D, and our intention to make the source code availabl

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 "Sun's engineering investment in Java 3D has been scaled back" sounds slightly different to "stopped completely" and "all developers have been fired". And also if somebody would have posted that J3D was disconti

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
"Sun's engineering investment in Java 3D has been scaled back" sounds slightly different to "stopped completely" and "all developers have been fired". And also if somebody would have posted that J3D was discontinued - now we know that it isn't true - so why can this disinformation already be read o

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Shawn Kendall
This "wrong" information was started with posts by Java3D TEAM members on this list as very long time ago. I still remember that day in Nov 2001 I got news that they were closing J3D down. So do not blame people that just report what was posted here officially. They started the "J3D is dead" mu

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Ben Moxon
t: 18 June 2004 14:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 If it is not true, the host of j3d.org should remove it from the j3d website, because so far some people like me regard j3d as the official information source for j3d. By the way

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
The demanding to remove this wrong information isn't new but j3d.org seems not to be interested in it :-( You can find my own (small) J3D-related website at http://java3d.virtualworlds.de . It contains several information, is english-"speaking" but there is a focus on information in german too. On

[JAVA3D] Antw: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Olivier Lefevre
> The above is wrong information? or Sun hired new Java 3D developers > since then? A lot has happened since June 2003, including a renewed emphasis by Sun on the desktop, so it is possible that both are true. As to: > Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the > int

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004 Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the internet? I'd think such an inform

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
You mean Sun is still doing Java3D development within their team, and not going to make it open source? so confusing? from this link: http://www.j3d.org/faq/intro.html#future "In July 2003, Sun sacked the two remaining fulltime developers. Nothing was heard for 6 months." The above is wrong info

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread michaelpfeiffer
Does this information have to be true only because it can be read in the internet? I'd think such an information must be correct only if it can be read somewhere on sun.com, java.com or java.net On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:22:44 -0400, David Du <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, if yes, how do you explain t

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread david kavanagh
It appears that the j3d.org site posted the information about the team getting "sacked". Don't know the source of that information. However, Kevin (from Sun) has posted that the J3D team from Sun will be at JavaOne and will be hosting a BOF and manning a booth. So, it seems like the info on j3d.org

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread Franck Calzada
Let's wait for the JavaOne 2004 meeting, then we will know... -Original Message- From: Discussion list for Java 3D API <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SUNGARD On Behalf Of Joerg Plewe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 3:30 PM

Re: [JAVA3D] Re: [JAVA3D] ANNOUNCEMENT: Java 3D @ JavaOne 2004

2004-06-18 Thread David Du
Hi, if yes, how do you explain the following I got from http://www.j3d.org/faq/intro.html#future 2. What is the future of Java 3D? Right now, it is in a holding pattern but at least we have some information to work on. In July 2003, Sun sacked the two remaining fulltime developers. Nothing was