[The Java Posse] Re: Ask not what Linux can do for Java...

2009-03-25 Thread Vince O'Sullivan
On Mar 24, 12:33 am, Casper Bang wrote: > ... it explain a little about the mentality of > "hackers", whom there are a great deal of in the Linux community. His world seems to be divided into "cool" and "uncool" and governed by the fear of being seen to be "uncool". Hence the first priority is

[The Java Posse] Re: Getting Google to embrace JavaFX -> Idea for Java / JavaFX coders with time on their hands...

2009-03-25 Thread RogerV
First order of business for Sun marketing is never pay any mind or give any notice of the second string competition of the likes of Silverlight. Concentrate on the #1 player - Adobe Flex/AIR. Second item - go after Adobe AIR. This is the place where JavaFX (founded on a Java SE runtime) can defin

[The Java Posse] Re: Ask not what Linux can do for Java...

2009-03-25 Thread Steven Herod
I recall working with a Unix admin who you would put in the hardcore category. Very skilled, very proud, very unforgiving of anything that wasn't Linux. Hated the stuff we ran on Java, loved the stuff we ran on PHP. Why? PHP ran on Apache, it had plain text file config files, appeared fast, co

[The Java Posse] I forgot: Win $25,000 coding JavaFX, and a book. :)

2009-03-25 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I completely forgot to post about our coding competition (my gmail account was somehow nuked when upgrading laptops recently). We just announced a JavaFX coding challenge where the top prize is 25k (along with many other prizes). There's also a special student category. I'm one of the judg

[The Java Posse] Re: Getting Google to embrace JavaFX -> Idea for Java / JavaFX coders with time on their hands...

2009-03-25 Thread Joshua Marinacci
On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Michael Kimsal wrote: > It's done with JavaScript because that's something that can > gracefully degrade with the use of toolkits. If someone has an > older IE or FF, the interface might not be as nice as the interface > for the newer browsers, but it'll still

[The Java Posse] "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread phil.swen...@gmail.com
http://neilbartlett.name/blog/2009/03/25/using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired/ jigsaw is core to Java 7 isn't it? If this guy is right, seems like Java 7 is going to be completely reworked if an acquisition happens. I think he's wrong of course. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~---

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Joshua Marinacci
Jigsaw is the modularity planned to be built into the JDK. It's purpose in life is to make the JRE modular. No other modules system, including OSGI, has the ability to do that because they simply can't work at a low enough level to make things work (such as JVM changes). However, nothi

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Viktor Klang
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > > Jigsaw is the modularity planned to be built into the JDK. It's > purpose in life is to make the JRE modular. No other modules system, > including OSGI, has the ability to do that because they simply can't > work at a low enough level

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I assure you they would be delicious. > > > I have no comment on the IBM/HP/Oracle/Apple/McDonalds rumors. > > An image of Gosling flipping burgers appeared... > > > > - J > > > On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:29 AM, phil.swen...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > http://neilbartlett.name/blog/2009/03/25/using-suns

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Casper Bang
On 25 Mar., 19:51, Viktor Klang wrote: > An image of Gosling flipping burgers appeared... Really? For me it was a feisty Steve Jobs back from his sick leave, screaming "What the f... is this!". --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscr

[The Java Posse] Re: Getting Google to embrace JavaFX -> Idea for Java / JavaFX coders with time on their hands...

2009-03-25 Thread Joe Data
On Mar 25, 1:54 pm, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > That's why caching is   > important and why JavaFX hitting 100m downloads of the runtime is   > important. It means that there are 100m desktops that can run your   > JavaFX app without having to download the runtime. (100m was in feb,   > i'm sure it

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Christian Catchpole
"flip once, eat anywhere" On Mar 26, 4:58 am, Joshua Marinacci wrote: > I assure you they would be delicious. > > > > > I have no comment on the IBM/HP/Oracle/Apple/McDonalds rumors. > > > An image of Gosling flipping burgers appeared... > > > - J > > > On Mar 25, 2009, at 10:29 AM, phil.swen...

[The Java Posse] #235 and #236 links not working

2009-03-25 Thread Craig
The links for #235 and #236 podcasts are not working, both from the website and in iTunes. Cheers Craig --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to j

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Neale
yeah the impression I get from jigsaw is that it is really there for platform modularity - all the way to the metal, which is critical for a whole lot of JRE issues now and in the future. Quite a different aim to OSGi (in fact you could use anything and totally ignore the jigsaw stuff and just en

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread Joshua Marinacci
On Mar 25, 2009, at 5:09 PM, Michael Neale wrote: > > yeah the impression I get from jigsaw is that it is really there for > platform modularity - all the way to the metal, which is critical for > a whole lot of JRE issues now and in the future. > > Quite a different aim to OSGi (in fact you cou

[The Java Posse] Re: IBM in talks to buy Sun?

2009-03-25 Thread Joe Data
On Mar 18, 6:56 am, Steven Herod wrote: > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123735970806267921.html A security filing from Intel reveals remarks from Intel chief Otellini during a recent staff meeting (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/ 2009/03/25/intel-boss-says-sun-was-shopped-all-over/): "I can te

[The Java Posse] Re: "using-suns-jigsaw-may-get-you-fired"

2009-03-25 Thread JodaStephen
Joshua Marinacci said "Jigsaw is the modularity planned to be built into the JDK.  It's  purpose in life is to make the JRE modular.  No other modules system, including OSGI, has the ability to do that because they simply can't work at a low enough level to make things work (such as JVM changes).

[The Java Posse] Re: I forgot: Win $25,000 coding JavaFX, and a book. :)

2009-03-25 Thread Ruben Reusser
> I like the fact that James Gosling's wife is judging the competition. Judging Criteria All entries will be judged by a panel of experts, which includes *Jame Gosling*, members of the JavaFX engineering and product marketing teams, based on the following equally weighted judging criteria. On We