On Jul 29, 12:46 am, Christian Catchpole
wrote:
> In 1987 my Amiga outperformed PCs, could preemptively multitask and
> had a unix like operating system.
Personally, I think that the greatest barrier to computing development
has been the continuing success of 1960s operating system, Unix. It's
No you wouldn't have found it before. I only just did it - prompted by
your original email in this thread in fact!
It's very basic now, I'll have a better version with pretty pictures
and more commentary (and sample code) ready for Agile 2009 and I'll
subsequently post on SlideShare for those tha
The google code project doesn't have source, but it looks like the jar
contains these:
META-INF/services/javax.annotation.processing.Processor
META-INF/services/lombok.eclipse.EclipseAnnotationHandler
META-INF/services/lombok.javac.JavacAnnotationHandler
So the Javac "hook" is an annotation hand
If you're using NetBeans and JavaFX maybe you'll find this useful:
http://blogs.sun.com/tor/entry/netbeans_6_7_1_is
-- Tor
On Jul 28, 7:20 pm, Bill Robertson wrote:
> Nice. Thanks Tor.
>
> On Jul 28, 8:45 pm, TorNorbye wrote:
>
> > Yes. You can see which feature clusters are activated in the
That sounds like madness - lots of busy work "just in case" you need
it. Its things like that which have soiled java's reputation in a lot
of places, and cause a multitude of project failures and blowouts.
You need YAGNI more then ever. As a bonus - with friendly refactoring
tools and static typi
Nice. Thanks Tor.
On Jul 28, 8:45 pm, TorNorbye wrote:
> Yes. You can see which feature clusters are activated in the plugin
> manager - and you can deactivate them there too.
>
> -- Tor
>
> On Jul 28, 5:37 pm, Bill Robertson wrote:
>
> > I've seen that in action, but what makes me wonder is i
No, I think you are right to ask these questions. Ridged layering can
be naive. I really do think it comes down to what you application is
trying to achieve, and you must balance the different approaches that
best suit your requirements. While trying to position yourself for re-
factoring and t
Paul,
Wow. I didn't find anything like that when I searched. I'm off to
read that now!
Thanks!
Dianne
On Jul 28, 10:31 am, Paul King wrote:
> I created a comparative example (based on a cucumber example) over in
> the aa-fft email list:
>
> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/aa-ftt/message/8
That is awesome, hopefully it'll work in Netbeans too.
I too am curious how you make it work though, I love the fact that
it's so easy to use (just add to classpath). Much better than
generating junk code from an IDE and then having to maintain it.
On Jul 28, 7:56 pm, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
Lack of boilerplate is always a good thing, and was what attracted me to
Groovy in the first place two years ago.
What advantages does something like this has over Groovy? Is that it's
'pure' Java? Or strong integration with Eclipse?
Your project looks interesting - nice video introduction! Go
Yes. You can see which feature clusters are activated in the plugin
manager - and you can deactivate them there too.
-- Tor
On Jul 28, 5:37 pm, Bill Robertson wrote:
> I've seen that in action, but what makes me wonder is if I experiment
> with a feature that I don't use again is it then enable
That looks pretty cool - I'm left wonder how you're doing it thou as you're
just adding the jar to the classpath? Is there some form of static
initializer hooking into javac?
Might have to download and play with this...
--
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Reinier Zwitserloot wrote:
> Projec
I've seen that in action, but what makes me wonder is if I experiment
with a feature that I don't use again is it then enabled every time I
start? Or are the features activated when projects that reqire them
are loaded? Just curious.
Thanks!
On Jul 28, 2:46 pm, TorNorbye wrote:
> As of NetBea
Discussions about the future direction of java have been popular
lately, so I thought I'd add another option to the mix:
Project Lombok modifies your development environment to enable extra
java language features. Right now lombok can inject itself into both
javac and eclipse and offers both Auto
Business is modern day warfare. So we have laws which try to keep the
war as civilized as possible. So it's not wrong to criticize the net
effect a business has on the wider community. If the worst a company
can do is overcharge for me a widget that I didn't need anyway, that's
one thing.
Micr
Hi,
I was wondering if the standard application-layering guidelines was still
the recommended practice.
Guidelines I'm thinking of are:
- layers: controller, service, DAO
- one DAO and service per entity
- each layer knows only the one directly below it
- services and DAOs have interfaces that the
I didn't want to speculate.. but here goes.. well.. not really. :) My
first thought was that while Snorical hasn't made statements one way
or another, they didn't appear to try to have kept the guys either.
But I don't know how much we can read into that. It's big company
going through big chang
While we are on the subject of engaging in a constructive dialog, I
similarly cannot let this statement go:
"The
problem is with anyone that expects a company to act in anything other
than self interest. To expect anything different is foolish.
Frankly, what Microsoft did with ooxml is only evil
pub...@lesstroud.com wrote:
> BTW, Fabrizio,
> >From the website, blueMarine looks really nice. Is that an fx app or
> swing with a really nice l&f?
>
Swing + NetBeans Platform.
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect, Project Manager
Tidalwave s.a.s. - "We make Java work. Everywhere."
weblogs.j
On Jul 28, 9:07 am, Fabrizio Giudici
wrote:
> Chas Emerick wrote:
> > That said, maybe it's more appropriate to say that JavaFX *on the
> > desktop* is just another layer on AWT? And it probably won't come as
> > a shock that we're entirely uninterested in mobile platforms.
>
> I don't thin
On 28 Jul., 19:53, TorNorbye wrote:
> Well, the "whole team" we are talking about here is 3 people
Well yeah but then again, anyone following various project mailing-
lists over the last 2-3 years have seen dozens prominent resources
disappear from Sun and Java - personally I felt this all too w
odd. the largest i see on that page is 206, but I'm on Mac so perhaps
the Windows version is larger due to the mobile emulator.
-j
On Jul 28, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Vince O'Sullivan wrote:
>
> I think that he meant that the only package that contains a full java
> (Web and EE) implementation and Jav
I think that he meant that the only package that contains a full java
(Web and EE) implementation and JavaFX is the 302Mb version on that
page. Other than that, you have to download an approximation of what
you want and then fiddle around (linux style) with it to get what you
really want.
On Jul
BTW, Fabrizio,
>From the website, blueMarine looks really nice. Is that an fx app or
swing with a really nice l&f?
LES
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The
Java Posse" group.
To post to this group,
Ok, I have gotta dive into this. You are correct that Gore did not
claim to have "invented" the internet. However, he tried, in his
statement, to take credit for it's invention as a political grand
stand. He "acted stupidly". :) It was like me taking credit for
paving the roads. Yes, my money
Hi,
With regarding to episode 270...
I created the Session builder that was on Javalobby a few years ago
using our MigCalendar component.
Michael Urban and Mathew Smith helped with the backend connection to
the lavalobby.org server.
Rick Ross got hold of all the session data and managed the in
As of NetBeans 6.7 there isn't a penalty anymore for downloading the
Giant release.
In the past, there was. If you downloaded the Everything/Kitchen Sink
release, hundreds and hundreds of plugins were all enabled, adding a
bunch of menu items to the menus, hooking up action enablement based
on yo
I think some of you are just jealous because Al Gore's tube is bigger
than yours.
Adam
http://technocracycheck.blogspot.com/
On Jul 27, 3:10 pm, TorNorbye wrote:
> On Jul 27, 12:29 pm, Ryan Waterer wrote:
>
> > What Tor is saying that it is quite silly to think that Al Gore actually
> > create
I completely agree with Bill. It is the easiest way to get what you want
and not have to worry about any extras that could potentially cause
problems.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Bill Robertson
wrote:
>
> With NB, its best to download the smallest package and add to it
> through the plugin
As Tor indicated, every single employee at Sun is potentially on the
chopping block. Whether Oracle's deal continues unobstructed by the
department of justice, or Sun continues on its own, nearly everyone is
unsure as to where Sun is headed. As Josh indicated, the great thing about
Open Source i
Well, the "whole team" we are talking about here is 3 people, who are
all friends, and who all live in Minnesota close to each other, who
were all offered jobs at a prominent Ruby company. Remember the whole
team was also hired in the same place - if you have people trickling
away to different gi
Whatever Sun's commitment level to JVM languages may be,
this seems to say to me that people don't believe Sun (as whatever
entity in Oracle they will be visible as) will be the ultimate decision
maker
when it comes to commitment levels (in the form of money/resources).
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:3
With NB, its best to download the smallest package and add to it
through the plugin manager (tools->plugins). However, I think
downloading the JavaFX version of netbeans is probably equivalent to
starting with the base and then adding JavaFX.
Jan, I don't know if is widespread agreement on good
I wouldn't expect them to say anything critical, but lets be honest,
whole teams don't jump from one boat to another unless there is some
serious concerns about the ship sea-worthiness or the direction its
being headed in.
This doesn't signal the end of Ruby or other languages on the JVM, it
is
Dick Wall wrote:
> OK - last word on this from me. The Microsoft is evil statement was
> directed at the loading of the ISO committee for the passing of the
> OOXML standard, the voting irregularities (payment for votes)
+1, I'm very surprised at the lack of coverage in the US where as there
has
The JavaFX version contains both Java and JavaFX. 74MB is what it takes.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 18:39, Matt wrote:
>
> So if I want JavaFX I need the 90M one, but then I can't use it for
> regular Java? And if I get the 300M one I can do Java but not JavaFX?
>
> I'm not very familiar with Netbe
there is no 300m one as far as I can see on that page. All JavaFX
versions of NetBeans must, by definition, support Java since you can
mix the two. Only the C or Ruby ones don't support Java. You can tell
what is what by looking at the handy chart on this page:
http://www.netbeans.org/dow
So if I want JavaFX I need the 90M one, but then I can't use it for
regular Java? And if I get the 300M one I can do Java but not JavaFX?
I'm not very familiar with Netbeans, which one should I get for JavaFX
and Java but I don't need Ruby or C?
On Jul 27, 1:29 pm, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
> http:
JavaFX provides a new language, a new media stack, and a new
scenegraph. While it is built on top of the Java runtime I wouldn't
use the word 'just'j any more than I'd say that JRuby is 'just a
library' or Eclipse. JavaFX adds quite a lot. It does currently use
Java2D underneath but that i
That's what I love about the open source community. Someone can move
from one company to another and it's not the end of the world. You can
still work on the same project, interact with the same people, and
hang out with your friends at the same conferences.
-j
On Jul 28, 2009, at 8:41 AM
I disagree.
Until the acquisition goes through, engineers at Sun will not get a
firm commitment from Oracle that their job is safe. That includes
mine, even though Larry made some public statements about JavaFX that
are quite encouraging.
This was a great opportunity for Engine Yard to pick up 3
Good point.
What are the officially Sun supported alternate languages left?
Not counting Sun created languages such as JavaFX.
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The
Java Posse" group.
To post to thi
Technically it's really the second major blow isn't it? The JVM
(Jython) lost Jim Huginen a few years ago to IronPython.
/Casper
On 28 Jul., 16:00, CKoerner wrote:
> http://bit.ly/ZHO45
>
> I can't help but wonder if this is the first signs of a deterioration
> in alternate language support for
I created a comparative example (based on a cucumber example) over in
the aa-fft email list:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/aa-ftt/message/805
It shows cucumber (Jruby, Java, Groovy) and Easyb (Groovy) and Spock (Groovy).
Spock is slightly more targeted at developers but I included it anyway
This just looks like a good job security move given the inherent
uncertainty and likely downsizing of many non-critical projects (where
non-critical is as of yet undefined) inherent in an acquisition like
that of Sun by Oracle.
There may eventually be a larger message here when Oracle's plans
it's interesting as EY was pushing an alternative Ruby implementation
- Rubinius. So I have to guess they will be joining forces and the
JVM will be the target platform. EY has some huge names in the ruby
community. Good news for the JVM and JRuby!
On Jul 27, 8:49 pm, Dianne Marsh wrote:
>
http://bit.ly/ZHO45
I can't help but wonder if this is the first signs of a deterioration
in alternate language support for Sun under Oracle. For the JRuby team
to jump ship is no small matter, and sends a message to others at the
company working on similar things. This event in and of itself is
Best of luck to the JRuby team!!
--~--~-~--~~~---~--~~
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The
Java Posse" group.
To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Chas Emerick wrote:
> That said, maybe it's more appropriate to say that JavaFX *on the
> desktop* is just another layer on AWT? And it probably won't come as
> a shock that we're entirely uninterested in mobile platforms.
I don't think it's appropriate either :-) JavaFX is another layer on
still no javafx source code formatter though... :-(
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 07:30, Jan Goyvaerts wrote:
> well, if I'm right, according to the Posse this might take some time...
>
> I'm particularly glad with 7.6 for maven, kenai and linux. and some better
> performance - I hope.
>
>
> On Tue, J
Dominic Mitchell wrote:
> On 27 Jul 2009, at 21:56, Stephen Gregory wrote:
>
>> I just thought I'd throw this out there:
>> If you want to see a great reason to use Maven, try making a Hudson
>> plugin. http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Plugin+tutorial
>> Everything you need (dependencie
Fortunately, like 75% of what the posse talk about is more JVM than
Java related. e.g a quick news article about a new version of some
IDE, or an update to the swing libraries, or a new web framework -
well, only that last one is likely of significantly less interest to a
scala-only programmer, bu
If anything, that's good news for JRuby, which is good news for the
JVM, which is good news for all of us. Go engine yard!
On Jul 28, 9:53 am, Amarjeet Singh wrote:
> With Oracle's past history of axing projects/products that they get with an
> acquisition, I completely appreciate the JRuby team
With Oracle's past history of axing projects/products that they get with an
acquisition, I completely appreciate the JRuby team's clear intentions to
keep their energies focused on what they love to do.
All the best to them.
Regards
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 1:56 AM, Michael Neale wrote:
>
> Cong
54 matches
Mail list logo
