[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Ryan Waterer
I have the exact situation with a co-worker. I need to completely rebuild her machine due to a virus infection. I looked into Linux, but unfortunately, had to discard it since this person uses iTunes exclusively. While I could install Wine and have her use iTunes through Wine, I just didn't

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Mark Fortner
The main problem with Songbird is that while it gives you access to your library, and handles iPod syncing, it doesn't allow you to buy new music (through iTunes). As a result, I end up using Amazon MP3 to get new music. If your co-worker is OK with that, then switching to Songbird shouldn't be a

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Ryan Waterer
I'm thinking of setting up a dual boot for her. The only hangup is the iTunes. She does buy a lot of music through iTunes, so I'm not convinced shell do it. I agree with you that apple is trying to sell more Mac hardware. It would be nice if they supported the actual device (iPod) as

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Marcelo Morales
I have a curious story. My father bought a HP printer on which his mac would not print. Then, he asked me to check it out one of thouse lazy sundays. I googled for a while and found a howto (sorry, I don't have the URL) on how to install CUPS on the mac. The last step was to copy the printer

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I actually prefer buying from Amazon to iTunes. Though iTunes no longer encrypts their music it's still in AAC format. Amazon sells MP3s, which are guaranteed to work absolutely everywhere, such as the MP3 CD player that came with my car. - Josh On Jul 14, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Mark Fortner

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread Christian Catchpole
I think it's a trade off though. AAC sounds awesome. I bought a Seagate Freeagent external hard drive. It comes with Mac software, but there is a bug / oversight causing it to go to sleep after 30 seconds. This makes it painful and impractical to use. There was a patch that 'might fix it',

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-14 Thread James Williams
I prefer Amazon as well. Thanks to VirtualBox, I can sync my ipod touch to iTunes (really just for the occasional free tv episodes they give out). That, Netflix and ABC.com are the only things I use the Windows disk image for. On Jul 14, 1:16 pm, Joshua Marinacci jos...@marinacci.org wrote: I

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
All I have is my own experience. I stuck a new disk in my 5 year old vaio laptop and installed the latest Ubuntu. Graphics, wireless network, power management all detected automatically. It also had drivers for my HP printer while the windows machine needed 10 minutes with the CD. Very happy

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread Michael Neale
I think the phrase is Vertically integrated - just like the most successful drug cartels in the world, Apple is extremely vertically integrated. They have their own suppliers (heck they are starting to design their own chips) all the way to their own retail stores. On Jul 12, 2:21 pm, Joshua

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread Christian Catchpole
Nintendo have always been nice and vertical. They even control the publishing of software for their machines. (Third parties can write it, but Nintendo control the packaging). I used to play with hack around with gameboy development (emulated). The Nintendo logo which appears at boot up, is

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread TorNorbye
On Jul 12, 4:30 pm, Peter Becker peter.becker...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the main point is that you can tell before the buy if it is going to work. I suspect most Mac users will buy only those products that are labeled to work with MacOS. Hardly anything gets labeled to work with Linux,

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread E Winter
Is there a good way to get iTunes port on Linux yet mainly for ipod and iphone syncing? That would be a biggie for me to recommend Linux or even Chrome to 'grandma'. Almost everyone I know has an ipod if they have a digital music player and I can't expect them to hack'em. On Jul 13, 12:11 pm,

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread mbien
http://gpodder.org/ is a good but minimalistic podcast downloader which syncs to your ipod and similar devices too. GTKpod is a tool for managing playlist etc manually and is also usefull for troubleshooting or restoring media from your ipod. not as good integrated as itunes but at least an

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread Peter Becker
TorNorbye wrote: [...] I'm sure most devices work with Linux -- especially if the devices aren't new. The story from some other post in this thread of somebody taking their 5 year old system and hooking it up to Ubuntu flawlessly didn't surprise me in the least. But where you can run into

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-13 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I think songbird can sync iPods - Josh, on the go On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:59 AM, E Winter ejwin...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a good way to get iTunes port on Linux yet mainly for ipod and iphone syncing? That would be a biggie for me to recommend Linux or even Chrome to 'grandma'. Almost

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Jess Holle
Because Mac OS X fully supports the hardware it is sold for. It's not expected to support more. It's part of the Mac-way. One of Linux x86's promises has always been to support the broad range of x86 hardware. People expect to grab any old x86 system and for Linux to work. Same goes for

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Christian Catchpole
And don't forget, with Linux, if my mother buys a lexmark printer and it doesn't work she can just 'write here own driver'. :) She GPLed her banana bread recipe, so this shouldn't be too difficult for her. (ps. im not bagging linux, im just being silly) On Jul 12, 9:42 pm, Jess Holle

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Casper Bang
I suppose a BSD license is completely out of the question? Oh well, could you perhaps get her to change it to LGPL, so that I can sell my derived peanut butter banana bread, without having to reveal the recipe. /Casper On 13 Jul., 00:49, Christian Catchpole christ...@catchpole.net wrote: And

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Mark Derricutt
Where can I find the source to both of your recipes, as I contest they violate my prior art on peanut brownies. mark -- On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose a BSD license is completely out of the question? Oh well, could you perhaps get her to

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Christian Catchpole
It's free as in 'lecture' not free as in 'banana bread'. On Jul 13, 9:18 am, Casper Bang casper.b...@gmail.com wrote: I suppose a BSD license is completely out of the question? Oh well, could you perhaps get her to change it to LGPL, so that I can sell my derived peanut butter banana bread,

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Peter Becker
Weiqi Gao wrote: [I'm 15 minutes into #266 and I have to pause the podcast and shoot this email out. (If I don't and wait till the end, I would forget all about it.)] Why is it that when it comes to the question of Linux's hardware support, people always bring Windows out for

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-12 Thread Peter Becker
Joshua Marinacci wrote: I think it's because Mac's aren't an OS. They are a software/hardware combo, all provided by the same vendor. Thus all of the built in hardware is guaranteed to work because it's built by the same company. True, there are peripherals, but it's less critical than

[The Java Posse] Re: #266 - Linux has amazingly good hardware support

2009-07-11 Thread Joshua Marinacci
I think it's because Mac's aren't an OS. They are a software/hardware combo, all provided by the same vendor. Thus all of the built in hardware is guaranteed to work because it's built by the same company. True, there are peripherals, but it's less critical than it is for Windows.