RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-09 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Jencks Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework 5. multiple interceptor chains per

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-09 Thread David Jencks
On 2003.03.09 15:20 Bill Burke wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Jencks Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-08 Thread Hiram Chirino
The AOP case is even more similar to the DP if you think of AOP like this: If the AOP intrumented methods are: Interceptors are: [] The original (but renamed) object methods are: ( The object is: O An AOP stack then is: [](O Which is almost the same as the DP case: |[](O Regards, Hiram If

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-07 Thread marc fleury
, March 03, 2003 2:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework The AOP framework really right now is only for POJO interception. I do have the beginnings of DynamicProxies though. The AOP POJO framework can intercept static and member

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-07 Thread marc fleury
, #2, and #3a if I can focus solely on this for 5 days with no interuptions. OK I will guarantee the no interuptions. Get it fucking done and you will put us all on top of the middleware world. JNDI is the simplest test case as Scott pointed and something I wanted see done in a long time

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-07 Thread marc fleury
It makes some interceptors less complex to implement. It makes sense at service interception where we may have a separation between attributes/operations. Say I want to persist 2 out of 3 attributes I'm changing. Operations don't need the persistence interceptor, nor do all the

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Nathan Phelps
. Thanks, Nathan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework Woa, before we have a full fledged interceptor

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Bill Burke
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nathan Phelps Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework I agree. As I begin the development of JMS/JBoss 4.0, I'm, frankly, confused as to which direction to go concerning the interceptor

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread David Jencks
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott M Stark Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 1:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework Woa, before we have a full fledged interceptor war show up in main what is the status

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Bill Burke
-Original Message- From: David Jencks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Scott M Stark
PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework On 2003.03.02 16:16 Nathan Phelps wrote: I agree. With what, specifically? As I begin the development of JMS/JBoss 4.0, I'm, frankly, confused

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread David Jencks
] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework On 2003.03.02 16:16 Nathan Phelps wrote: I agree. With what, specifically? As I begin the development of JMS/JBoss 4.0, I'm, frankly, confused as to which direction to go concerning the interceptor

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Bill Burke
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework And I'm saying I want a prototype that demonstrates how the various interceptor offerings work in the context of a real service. Part of the testsuite for a given interceptor framework needs to demonstrate

RE: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-03 Thread Juha-P Lindfors
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Bill Burke wrote: 1. Source located in neutral territory, namely the common module. ok 2. Sequence of interceptors determined by (iterator in) invocation object. This could be a modifiable iterator at some point. This allows the interceptor stack to be modified per

Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-02 Thread Scott M Stark
Woa, before we have a full fledged interceptor war show up in main what is the status of the various JMX, AOP, etc interceptors and associated frameworks? It seems like several people are running around writing this without demonstrating how it applies to the existing services. A simple example is

Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-02 Thread David Jencks
No No!! War War War!!! :-)) Actually I just wanted to get the discussion started early on and try to get people involved since I think it will be a big undertaking to convert all the interceptor models to a single one. I don't want to spring an entire system conversion on anyone without a lot

Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework

2003-03-02 Thread Scott M Stark
Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Proposal for jboss-wide interceptor framework No No!! War War War!!! :-)) Actually I