Re[2]: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-08 Thread Alexey Loubyansky
1:58 PM To: jboss-user Subject: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site http://jboss.org/index.html?module=htmlop=userdisplayid=deve lopers/projects/jboss/jbossdo I am asked directly about JBossDO. So I decided to post some stuff on the site even before the DR2 instead of answering

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Ionel Gardais
Hi, I was already wondering why to use JDO when someone is already using EJBs. This feature confuses me more ! Make a POJO persistant archieve the same goal as an Entity bean ? so why bother : I do not see any other advantages than the speed of developpement (no EJB overhead, just POJO). Back

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Pete Beck
I think the confusion arises where people people assume EJB's were designed for object persistance. They weren't, and in fact the persistance stuff was probably added more as an afterthought than anything. The technology emerged at the time where distributed object frameworks like CORBA and DCOM

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Pete Beck
Enhancement at deployment time I have one word: wow! Yet again JBoss kicks some backsides with its deployment process. This looks like some great work guys; I can't wait for inheritance and more JDOQL support. :-) On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 18:58, Alexey Loubyansky wrote:

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Erik Price
Pete Beck wrote: I think the confusion arises where people people assume EJB's were designed for object persistance. They weren't, and in fact the persistance stuff was probably added more as an afterthought than anything. [...] However, as CMP was the only standard that offered a way of doing

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Bruce Snyder
This one time, at band camp, Erik Price said: EPPete Beck wrote: EP I think the confusion arises where people people assume EJB's were EP designed for object persistance. EP EP They weren't, and in fact the persistance stuff was probably added more EP as an afterthought than anything. ... EP

Re: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-03 Thread Dan Christopherson
Erik Price wrote: Thank you for posting this, as I have not yet learned enough about EJB (or JDO for that matter) to have an opinion on this subject. But it seems that what you suggest is at odds with some of the writings of Marc Fleury. I am trying to reconcile all of these different

[JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-02 Thread Alexey Loubyansky
http://jboss.org/index.html?module=htmlop=userdisplayid=developers/projects/jboss/jbossdo I am asked directly about JBossDO. So I decided to post some stuff on the site even before the DR2 instead of answering personally to everyone. The pages are almost just written. But don't hold your

RE: [JBoss-user] JBossDO page is on the site

2003-07-02 Thread Heiko Rupp
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