Re: [JDEV] JabberApplet - Dynamic Creation of User ??

2002-04-24 Thread David Scott
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/jabberapplet/JabberApplet2/ not as new as you'd like, but newest we have right now. David Scott - Original Message - From: Rederer, Andreas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 1:39 AM Subject: AW: [JDEV]

Re: [JDEV] maximum number of resources?

2002-04-24 Thread Thomas Muldowney
Theoretically unlimitted, but there are hash table sizes you would run into in reality. This is curable though =) --temas On Fri, 2002-04-19 at 05:54, Lars Nilsson wrote: Is there a maximum resources cap or can one JID log on from a unlimited number of resources?

[JDEV] Querying Rosters...

2002-04-24 Thread Ritu Khetan
Hello, I just found out that it is possible for users to query each other rosters which would reveal the buddy list of the respective user. I feel this is highly unfavorable as people do not wish to share their buddy lists with others. Further, as rosters (esp. this part) are managed by the

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Julian Fitzell
No, I was supporting your proposal... just didn't come out sounding that way :) I didn't mean the x tags had to be inline, just that I prefer having an x tag with an appropriate namespace that identifies it as an emoticon rather than a standard img tag that doesn't tell you that. Julian

[JDEV] j2me whiteboard query

2002-04-24 Thread lolly
has anybody worked with whiteboard.its an ide for developing j2me applications. could someone tell me if whiteboard supports running applications via proxy. it doesnt work..i've tried are there any setting to b made to enable it. i've tried making changes in the emulator settings but it doesnt

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Julian Fitzell
Dave wrote: Julian Fitzell wrote: like we're going in circles here. I don't think you need to take it as a personal attack that others are arguing against your proposal... but I do need to take it as a personal attack. sigh Fine. whatever. 1) I don't like html-ish tags being stuck

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Julian Fitzell
Richard Dobson wrote: - Original Message - From: Tijl Houtbeckers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 1:17 AM Subject: Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines And I'd love having a simple X element telling that the current message should not be

Re: [JDEV] [from and to] change from each message

2002-04-24 Thread franck
franck wrote: Hello, For a group of server, I need to change all from and all to of message ... Imagine a domain like jabber.domaine.com for all users but their real adress is jabber1.domaine.com, jabber2.domaine.com, jabber3.domaine.com, ... And the users must only see

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons Genicons

2002-04-24 Thread Richard Dobson
This is virtually the same thing that I have already suggested, I am preparing to write up a document on it, would you like to help ? - Original Message - From: Sami Haahtinen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [JDEV] Emoticons

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Richard Dobson
- Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines I don't think the Jabber protocol itself should define that standard set. Rather, we should let individual Web repositories

Re[2]: [JDEV] filetransfer in jabber

2002-04-24 Thread Thomas Parslow (PatRat)
Just some thoughts. It could be time for the jabber community to define an official way file sharing should be done. I don't say here that it should be written by jabber folks, or that it should be part of the jabber server, but having a implementation reference could help. For instance,

[JDEV] Jabber Client - Sockets problem

2002-04-24 Thread Rohit Nadhani
Hello, I am developing a Jabber client using sockets. Before calling the recv() function, I need to know one of the following: - the message seperator so that I can recv() upto the seperator - the no of bytes I need to recv() I can't fix the buffer size, since the incoming message can be of

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons Genicons

2002-04-24 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 09:32:50AM +0100, Richard Dobson wrote: This is virtually the same thing that I have already suggested, I am preparing to write up a document on it, would you like to help ? and to answer for a second time, your suggestion is pretty much like the one i had in mind (i

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client - Sockets problem

2002-04-24 Thread Glenn MacGregor
First - You may want to look at some libraries that already do that, jabberoo (Linux, win32). JabberCOM (COM based win32) and there are some java libs as well. If you need to make your own, you should look at jabberoo for some ideas. I assume your lib is based on a select (or poll) loop, when

[JDEV] sha1 algo

2002-04-24 Thread lolly
while sending username and password for authentication is it necessary to send the password in the encrypted format? if yes then i think the jabber server expects the password to be encrpted using sha1 algo. where can i get this algo(source code in java) from? plz help. thanx

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client - Sockets problem

2002-04-24 Thread David Waite
Glenn MacGregor wrote: First - You may want to look at some libraries that already do that, jabberoo (Linux, win32). JabberCOM (COM based win32) and there are some java libs as well. If you need to make your own, you should look at jabberoo for some ideas. Look at gabber for some ideas - I

Re: [JDEV] sha1 algo

2002-04-24 Thread David Waite
lolly wrote: while sending username and password for authentication is it necessary to send the password in the encrypted format? if yes then i think the jabber server expects the password to be encrpted using sha1 algo. where can i get this algo(source code in java) from? It is

Re: Re: [JDEV] sha1 algo

2002-04-24 Thread lolly
could u please guide me on how to use it? or where exactly is the code for it located inside jre? On Wed, 24 Apr 2002 David Waite wrote : lolly wrote: while sending username and password for authentication is it necessary to send the password in the encrypted format? if yes then i think the

Re: [JDEV] msn transport

2002-04-24 Thread Sebastiaan 'CBAS' Deckers
I'm having problems registering with the transport using a nickname with spaces in it. Everything after the first space is dropped. I'm Not sure if it's only with spaces, maybe anything [^0-9a-z-A-Z] Also, please fix the user is typing stuff, I think it's messed up. (Jabber clients don't send

Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client - Sockets problem

2002-04-24 Thread Glenn MacGregor
- Original Message - From: David Waite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [JDEV] Jabber Client - Sockets problem Glenn MacGregor wrote: First - You may want to look at some libraries that already do that, jabberoo (Linux,

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons...go home! :)

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Hey, Mikey ... long time; no see ... my X setup is dead (crashed over the course of my vacation, and I can't get it up again since), so Gabber is a no-op ... and with all these messages about emoticons aren't leaving me too much time to work on my X setup :-( ...not that I really like X much,

[JDEV] Emoticons/transports

2002-04-24 Thread Michael Brown
Transport translating/transforming of messages: if I'd be maintining one of the transports, the last thing I would care about is translating of emoticans, the transports job is to route the message, not interpretate it. Even if you do make it to some kind of standard I think transport

Re: [JDEV] sha1 algo

2002-04-24 Thread Iain Shigeoka
I'll make a shameless plug for my book, Instant Messaging in Java: the Jabber protocols. :) It contains a full explanation of Jabber authentication and the Java code to implement it. Amazon doesn't have it listed yet but Barnes and Noble does (www.bn.com) as well as directly through the

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Reply inline: - Dave Tijl Houtbeckers wrote: Hi dave, I've read almost all your posts on this subject, Wow ... I'm impressed :-) and though you make an intresting point that XML is a much more flexible system for embedding all kinds of information in your messages I still think your

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
It may be silly for a Jabber client to be a Web browser, but the standard OOB method in Jabber is HTTP, so any Jabber client that wants to support file transfer already is a Web browser. It may be silly, but it's true ;-) - Dave Richard Dobson wrote: - Original Message - From:

[JDEV] Re: [jadmin] xdb_sql ...

2002-04-24 Thread Andrew Kornak
All, To those who have managed to get xdb_sql working with transports; my congratulations and a plea for assistance. I managed to get the jabber server running fine. I even manage to register transports with a MySQL database. But, when logging out and logging in again, failure. The transport

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Reply inline: - Dave Richard Dobson wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines If people insist on refusing to accept English as a standard

RE: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Max Metral
It's a far far cry between speaking HTTP and being a web browser. This whole conversation should really go offline or something, I find it funny that we've spent hundreds of messages deciding how to make shorthand work. -Original Message- From: Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Reply inline: - Dave Richard Dobson wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines Modifying a processor to interpret URNs instead of URLs is no biggie.

Re: Re[2]: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
If you'd just use a Jabber-compatible approach to represent emoticons in the first place, you wouldn't have to deal with this crazyness of trying to figure out whether we should interpret the body part of a message as real text, or as regexp-parsable emoticon-full text :-( - Dave Richard

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons...go home! :)

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Whatever happened to the plain old JEP process??? - Dave Richard Dobson wrote: Yes why dont we create one for each idea so we can produce a proper document fully outlining why we think it is a good way to do it, with reasons/applications for it/examples etc so everyone can review it in

RE: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Hear, hear. I'm sure that yahoogroups would be happy to host the list. :) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre email+jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] weblog: http://www.saint-andre.com/blog/ On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Max Metral wrote: It's a far far cry between speaking HTTP and being a web browser. This whole

[JDEV] jabber:x:data now a Draft protocol

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
FYI, the jabber:x:data protocol defined by JEP-0004 has been advanced by the Jabber Council to Draft status. Since there are already several implementations of this protocol, I would expect that after the 60-day cooling-off period this will be presented to the Council again for consideration as a

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Hmm ... so we can have img:emoticon src=smiley, and img:genicon src=beer ... interesting idea. . . Yeah, I think that will keep the implementation reasonably clean, while making people who want to treat emoticons differently happy. Thanks for the idea :-) - Dave Julian Fitzell wrote:

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Reply inline: - Dave Julian Fitzell wrote: Dave wrote: Julian Fitzell wrote: like we're going in circles here. I don't think you need to take it as a personal attack that others are arguing against your proposal... but I do need to take it as a personal attack. sigh Fine.

Re: [JDEV] [from and to] change from each message

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
/me appologizes for hiding your post, and tries to help by getting another copy of your post into everybody's inboxes ;-) - Dave franck wrote: franck wrote: Hello, For a group of server, I need to change all from and all to of message ... Imagine a domain like

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Reply inline: - Dave Richard Dobson wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines I don't think the Jabber protocol itself should define that standard set.

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
The original message I was replying to used the term web browser instead of HTTP client, so he knows what I meant. The discussion was about downloading the images for an HTML IMG tag. Only HTTP functionality is needed. - Dave Max Metral wrote: It's a far far cry between speaking HTTP and

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Never mind ... it looks like people are too set on doing things the text hacking way. I really don't have the time or energy to devote to this argument any more. My plan is to just let whatever happens happen. If I don't like it, I'll simply do whatever I want and write a Jabber-t for my

[JDEV] STOP : Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread dlb
you guys need to find somewhere else to work this stuff out. Set up a JIG. This thread is creating too much traffic , it's no longer appropriate for JDEV. good luck ___ jdev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.jabber.org/listinfo/jdev

Re: [JDEV] STOP : Emoticons: guidelines

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
As far as I'm concerned, the discussion is over. I explained the reasoning in my last email to JDEV. - Dave dlb wrote: you guys need to find somewhere else to work this stuff out. Set up a JIG. This thread is creating too much traffic , it's no longer appropriate for JDEV. good

[JDEV] Emoticons mailing list

2002-04-24 Thread Mike Szczerban
Since no one seems to have taken the initiative, I created a yahoo mailing list for the emoticons discussion that has run amuck in jdev. See http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabber-emoticons-list/ for more info or: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL

[JDEV] NEW EMOTICONS DISCUSSION LIST

2002-04-24 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
I have set up an email list on Yahoo Groups dedicated to discussion of the emoticons topic. You can sign up here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jabber-emoticons/ As list administrator of the JDEV list, I hereby announce that discussion of emoticons has ceased on the JDEV list. Anyone who

Re: [JDEV] Emoticons mailing list

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
Thanks for creating (and adding me to) the list. However, I don't plan to continue the discussion (for reasons that I posted to both JDEV and Standards-jig) - and since I appear to be the only one arguing for an XML-correct approach, I would imagine the discussion won't go on much longer now.

Re: [JDEV] Genicon Hybrid Solution - should solve the differences

2002-04-24 Thread Julian Fitzell
Adam Theo wrote: Hate to contribute to this more, but I just got an idea I might have gotten this from reading the thread here, so forgive me if I'm just repeating a position that's already been proposed. I just thought of a hybrid of the two positions. I and others want the light

[JDEV] sorry in advance

2002-04-24 Thread Julian Fitzell
Hmm... apologies in advance. I meant to send a private reply to Adam about his genicons JEP but got caught by the reply-to being set to JDEV. I hit cancel but I fear it was too late. I apologize profusely for breaking the law laid down by the magnificent moderator gods... please forgive

Re: [JDEV] sorry in advance

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
...and I replied to that message before reading this one ... LOL. . . Dave Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julian Fitzell wrote: Hmm... apologies in advance. I meant to send a private reply to Adam about his genicons JEP but got caught by the reply-to being set to JDEV. I hit cancel but I

Re: [JDEV] Genicon Hybrid Solution - should solve the differences

2002-04-24 Thread Dave
stpeter asked us to move discussion to one of the new groups, so please try to avoid replying here. (Are you trying to get me kicked from the list for starting this discussion? LOL. . .) Dave Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Little clarification, BTW: Nope, a client can easily mangle the URL of an