[Jmol-users] Not all chemicals are molecules

2007-06-08 Thread Nick Greeves
Hi All, I saw this proposed change on the list and have now seen it on the web site. Initially I let it slide but the more I think about it the more I think I was wrong. Jmol - an open-source Java viewer for three-dimensional chemical structures - this is accurate. Molecular structures is

Re: [Jmol-users] Not all chemicals are molecules

2007-06-08 Thread Angel Herraez
On the point of English, lowercase after a colon is correct like Spanish. Thanks Nick. I find it much better with the lowercase! Regarding the wording, Jmol: an open-source Java viewer for three-dimensional  chemical and biochemical structures sounds sweet to my ears In Spanish, we must

Re: [Jmol-users] Not all chemicals are molecules

2007-06-08 Thread Sérgio Ceroni da Silva
Nick Greeves wrote: Molecular structures is not accurate. Bob uses quartz as an example, there are lovely pages showing zeolites, graphite, diamond, ionic solids e.g. NaCl, metals, etc. etc. _*These are not molecules but they are chemicals*_. Am I missing something?! I don't think we should

[Jmol-users] Jmol applet - crash with inline model (OS X)

2007-06-08 Thread Dean Johnston
I¹m getting an odd (and hard to reproduce) crash with the Jmol applet (Firefox or Safari on OS X, version 11.1.48_dev). I try and load an inline model and sporadically get the error listed below. It seems to always be in the middle of creating the new bonds (my page creates all the bonds

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet - crash with inline model (OS X)

2007-06-08 Thread Bob Hanson
Dean, please send me the script. I'd like to fix this. Dean Johnston wrote: I’m getting an odd (and hard to reproduce) crash with the Jmol applet (Firefox or Safari on OS X, version 11.1.48_dev). I try and load an inline model and sporadically get the error listed below. It seems to

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet - crash with inline model (OS X)

2007-06-08 Thread Dean Johnston
Bob, Here's the script that produced the error in my previous message: data model molecule|12|molecule|C -1.2125 -0.70000.|C -1.21250.70000.|C0.1.40000.|C1.2124 0.70000.|C1.2124 -0.70000.|C0. -1.4000 0.|H

Re: [Jmol-users] Not all chemicals are molecules

2007-06-08 Thread Bob Hanson
I wholeheartedly support this discussion. Jmol 10 WAS strictly a molecular viewer -- there is no question about that. It's intriguing to think that Jmol 11 is more than a molecular viewer because of the additional capabilities in the area of crystallography. Personally I don't see the

[Jmol-users] Polyhedra with 12 or 20 vertices

2007-06-08 Thread Dean Johnston
Has anybody tried to create polyhedra with 12 or 20 vertices? The documentation seems to indicate that I should be able to go up to 20. I¹m creating representations of shapes (Platonic solids, actually ‹ maybe Jmol isn¹t just for molecules anymore... :-). I would like to display an icosahedron

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet - crash with inline model (OS X)

2007-06-08 Thread Bob Hanson
I think this system uses multiple threads, and the first thread has hit: connect (all) (all) delete; and is in the process of deleting the bonds when another thread starts rendering the picture. So the first thread has cleared some bonds that the renderer thread needs. I'll look into it. You

Re: [Jmol-users] Jmol applet - crash with inline model (OS X)

2007-06-08 Thread Dean Johnston
Beautiful - explained the problem AND fixed the problem AND removed some extraneous scripting to boot. All in one step. THANKS! Dean On 6/8/07 11:33 PM, Bob Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this system uses multiple threads, and the first thread has hit: connect (all) (all)

Re: [Jmol-users] Polyhedra with 12 or 20 vertices

2007-06-08 Thread Bob Hanson
Dean, sounds like you might appreciate: http://www.scienceu.com/geometry/facts/solids/coords/ Well, ah, let's just say it doesn't work the way you probably think it does. The polyhedra code is a very complex algorithm that looks at possible faces (combinations of three atoms around a central