[Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Rzepa, Henry
Steve Jobs at the WWDC: "Jobs also confirmed that iPhone won't support Java. "[It's] not worth building in," he said. "Nobody uses Java anymore. It's this big heavyweight ball and chain." Whilst this might not seem to matter just for the iPhone (although it would have been nice to display Jmol

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Egon Willighagen
> Steve Jobs at the WWDC: > > "Jobs also confirmed that iPhone won't support Java. "[It's] not worth > building in," he said. "Nobody uses Java anymore. It's this big > heavyweight ball and chain." Mmmm... interesting thought by Sun. Dump Java into the opensource, continue yourself with your new

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Angel Herraez
Mmmm... So nobody is using Java? Where does he live? And if he doesn't say what's the alternative, is this assertion trustable? I understood that iPhone uses plain MacOSX, so how is Java prevented from working? Do they block installation? What happens with other plugins, like Flash? Can't the br

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Egon Willighagen
>> Steve Jobs at the WWDC: >> >> "Jobs also confirmed that iPhone won't support Java. "[It's] not worth >> building in," he said. "Nobody uses Java anymore. It's this big >> heavyweight ball and chain." > > Mmmm... interesting thought by Sun. Dump Java into the opensource, > continue yourself with

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Rzepa, Henry
>Mmmm... >So nobody is using Java? Where does he live? >And if he doesn't say what's the alternative, is this assertion trustable? > >I understood that iPhone uses plain MacOSX, so how is Java prevented >from working? Do they block installation? What happens with other plugins, >like Flash? Can't t

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Egon Willighagen
Some comments on these bits: > I have been asked questions > such as "what is the lifetime of a WEO", and what happens > in eg 10 years time when the Java virtual engine is no longer > installed/supported on the majority of Web browsers. Jmol is opensource! There is absolutely no reason not

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-12 Thread Rzepa, Henry
>Some comments on these bits: > >> I have been asked questions >> such as "what is the lifetime of a WEO", and what happens >> in eg 10 years time when the Java virtual engine is no longer >> installed/supported on the majority of Web browsers. > >Jmol is opensource! There is absolutely no reas

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-13 Thread pim schravendijk
On 6/13/07, Angel Herraez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understood that iPhone uses plain MacOSX, so how is Java prevented > from working? Do they block installation? What happens with other plugins, > like Flash? Can't the browser be supplemented? If it is true that he puts MacOSX in mobile phon

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-13 Thread pim schravendijk
... And if the iPhone would be a measure for the state of things, it doesn't look too good for flash either ;) http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/No-Flash-Support-For-The-iPhone.htm -- greetings, Pim - This SF.net email is

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-13 Thread Alan Hewat
>> "Jobs also confirmed that iPhone won't support Java." Does even Safari for Windows support Java ? I couldn't get jmol to work with Safari on my Windows-XP ThinkPad and Safari wouldn't run at all on my old Win-2000 Dell. If you think that i-phone is important, or any of the other i-marketing gad

Re: [Jmol-users] The future of Java?

2007-06-13 Thread Dean Johnston
I could get some relatively simple Java applets to run on Safari/WinXP, but not Jmol. All the reports I've read say Safari on Windows is pretty unstable, but I don't know what Java support it's supposed to have. Dean On 6/13/07 2:51 PM, "Alan Hewat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> "Jobs also co

[Jmol-users] The future of Java and OS X

2010-11-12 Thread Rzepa, Henry
Looks more promising http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/11/12/oracle_and_apple_announce_openjdk_for_java_on_mac_os_x.html -- Professor Henry S Rzepa. +44 (020) 7594 5774 (Voice); http://www.ch.ic.ac.uk/rzepa/ & /rzepa/blog Dept. Chemistry, Imperial College London, SW7 2AZ, UK. (Voracio