[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread David Zhou
Exactly. Also, two things: 1. Can we stop with the silly M$ nomenclature? We're not script kiddies with an axe to grind. 2. Again, building an advanced web application does not mean forgetting the lessons of progressive enhancement. Using advanced features of newer browsers does not preclude p

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread ajpiano
It has been repeatedly stated that jQuery has NO plans to drop support for IE7, and that pretty much everything in jQuery that is there for IE7 also is there for IE6, meaning that support for the two pretty much comes in tandem. IE6 is a bitch to develop for, we all know that, but I don't think w

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread DBJDBJ
The more advanced web app is , the more difficult its team to support IE6/7. M$FT and the rest of us are quickly reaching the point where supporting IE6/7 is not feasible any more. When M$FT reaches that point, it will be "game over" for IE6/7. It is as simple as that. PS: M$FT is already reachi

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread David Zhou
To clarify: "run on" does not mean "fully support". Products can and should have different grades of support. But this does not mean completely disregarding IE6 or 7. In any case, jQuery should not be making that sort of decision. Unless supporting IE6/7 is imposing significant roadblocks to th

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread David Zhou
> jQuery and IE old : I am wondering why mainstream  jQ supports IE6 > actually? How many developers actually need and use that? Who and when > will be developing an web app today , that will run on IE6 too ? 99% > of web apps developed on jQ are new apps for new browsers. That's a pretty myopic

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread Daniel Friesen
jQuery isn't only for web apps. It's also for smaller websites. And it'd be a shame for show/hide to stop working in older browsers when it has no reason to. ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name] DBJDBJ wrote: > @tres > > Voice of reason. Thanks > > @all > > S

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-22 Thread DBJDBJ
@tres Voice of reason. Thanks @all Solution I am proposing will work even for M$FT. If and when (sort-of- a) supporting IE4-7 becomes not-feasible. They did the same solution but for XP. Instead of supporting legacy OS they delivered a virtual environment for legacy OS apps. I simply am suggest

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-21 Thread tres
@dbj That is not a bad concept at all. In IE8, they've implemented a compatibility mode for IE7, I'm sure it could be done for IE6. @david This is actually very related to jQuery development in that at some point, the decision will have to be made to drop support for IE6 (and other older browse

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-20 Thread David Zhou
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:46 AM, DBJDBJ wrote: > > Well the only reason this is a link to a blog is the image present. > Which speaks a thousand words. Which in turn should make the > discussion here productive. > Same as any other useful discussion on this good forum about legacy > browsers issue

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-19 Thread DBJDBJ
Well the only reason this is a link to a blog is the image present. Which speaks a thousand words. Which in turn should make the discussion here productive. Same as any other useful discussion on this good forum about legacy browsers issue. Which in turn is important for this forum, since this iss

[jquery-dev] Re: My solution for legacy web applications demanding IE6

2009-07-19 Thread David Zhou
jquery-dev is not your personal soapbox. If you're going to shamelessly plug your blog, can you at least plug a post that's reasonably related to jquery development? /rant -- dz On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:13 PM, DBJDBJ wrote: > > http://dbj.org/dbj/?p=244 > > --DBJ > > > --~--~-~--~-