Re: ASP vs. JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Duffey, Kevin
nt: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 6:17 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP > > > ASP will take the market in the near future, consider the > characterisitcs > of the newest generation of microsoft tools and OS, native > java support > for their very own versions, besi

Re: ASP vs JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Dumitru Sbenghe
om: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Claudio ParnenziniSent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:50 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP I agree, but ASP is based on Visual Basic, as i know Visual Basic

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2001-08-14 Thread Haseltine, Celeste
r the "expert".   Celeste     -Original Message-From: Dumitru Sbenghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:39 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP Sure; MVC is not a JSP future; -Original Message-From: A mailing list about Java

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2001-08-14 Thread Claudio Parnenzini
mitru Sbenghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:39 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP Sure; MVC is not a JSP future; -Original Message-From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: ASP vs JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Dumitru Sbenghe
Sure; MVC is not a JSP future; -Original Message-From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Claudio ParnenziniSent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:32 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP Can

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2001-08-14 Thread Dumitru Sbenghe
Behalf Of Jon Garry > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:09 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP > > > Hmmm... > > As someone who has had quite a lot of experience in the ASP/COM > area and has > moved to JSP/Java in the last few months I suppose I will still

Re: ASP vs JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Claudio Parnenzini
Can you with ASP develop web application based on the MVC pattern?? If yes, which framework exist with ASP??   Sorry for this two rookie questions. -Original Message-From: Duc Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:20 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Jon Garry
r pros and cons and this is probably the most important aspect. Just my thoughts! Jon -Original Message- From: Dumitru Sbenghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 August 2001 14:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP Thinking in Microsoft way :) Quality - no, marketing -

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2001-08-14 Thread Geert Van Damme
ugustus 2001 15:17 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP > > > ASP will take the market in the near future, consider the characterisitcs > of the newest generation of microsoft tools and OS, native java support > for their very own versions, besides jsp are very mu

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Dumitru Sbenghe
] > Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP > > > ASP will take the market in the near future, consider the characterisitcs > of the newest generation of microsoft tools and OS, native java support > for their very own versions, besides jsp are very much linked to oralce > and sun microsistems so

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2001-08-14 Thread webmaster
ASP will take the market in the near future, consider the characterisitcs of the newest generation of microsoft tools and OS, native java support for their very own versions, besides jsp are very much linked to oralce and sun microsistems so microsoft will start to get them the same way they did w

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2001-08-14 Thread Dumitru Sbenghe
I quess will be better to ask which will be more popular in the future ASP+ or JSP, because actually JSP is better than ASP for almost any point of view (speed, extensibility, facilities, productivity, portability ...); > -Original Message- > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages s

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-25 Thread Stefan Demetz
) to get it to work, Sun didn't allow it and sued, MS got fed up and reverted everything to c\vc sd -Original Message- From: Antonio W. Lagnada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 September 2000 06:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP That's funny and it'

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-23 Thread Antonio W. Lagnada
able to afford your current life style. > > -Original Message- > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Jesse > Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 10:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject

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2000-09-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP One last thing on this... I've looked at ASP+ and COM+ in detail, and get ready for a laugh if any of you do look into either. COM+ is a Java copy: C# and VB are compiled into byte codes which run in the COM+ VM. COM+ even has the same core

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-23 Thread Rick Jesse
they release the source code why would anyone switch to using a proprietary copy of Java? -Rick - Original Message - From: "Ruta Thakkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP > Hi, > Thanks

Re: ASP vs JSP (Answers to recent Questions)

2000-09-23 Thread Joseph B. Ottinger
I was scanning this, and some of the claims involved deserved some reaction. On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, Nasser Dassi wrote: > >.(Any body ever seen the BNF for the VB language, or a spec on VB/ASP from > MS???) > * Specs? Yes. It's a matter of finding it... they don't advertise it, > but they do

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-23 Thread Ruta Thakkar
nyways..nuff said. JSP is better! ;) > > > -Original Message----- > > From: Rick Jesse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 9:42 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP > > > > > > My reponse is,

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-23 Thread Duffey, Kevin
eb architecture in the last two years that has any MS > product in the entire > architecture. No one wants to be limited by a closed > architecture. Let's put > is this way, if your pissed with the bugs or performance of > your NT based > ASP implementation, what alternative

Re: ASP vs JSP (Answers to recent Questions)

2000-09-22 Thread Nasser Dassi
Quite one-sided. I will volunteer to answer some of the questions posed. - Original Message - > Where is the ASP or ASP+ spec? * Why bother knit-picking details on how it would theoretically work. Just know the darn thing to get the job done. >.(Any body ever seen the BNF for the VB l

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-22 Thread Rick Jesse
Dassi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:06 PM Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP > Hi all, > I beg to differ on a few points mentioned between ASP and JSP. > > The transition is dependent on which scripting language someone is more >

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-21 Thread Neal Cabage
I don't knowthat sounds pretty one sided to me. I like Java too, but it's not the only show on the road,and not the only one wirth buying a ticket to. ;-) Both JSP and ASP have a lot to offer and it really depends upon a number of factors as to what you pick, but an interesting point was raise

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-21 Thread Nasser Dassi
as been fully released before delving into it... if you cannot wait, begin with the language you are more comfortable with (ASP or JSP). Yours Truly, Nasser - Original Message - From: "Duffey, Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday,

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-21 Thread Duffey, Kevin
> There's a give and a take. You have to decide what's > ultimately the most > important. As for performance and tight programmatic control > JSP seems to > be better. If you require a quick time to market, ASP is > probably your best > bet. I would be to differ. JSP is much easier to use than

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-21 Thread Neal Cabage
There's a give and a take. You have to decide what's ultimately the most important. As for performance and tight programmatic control JSP seems to be better. If you require a quick time to market, ASP is probably your best bet. 1. Performance (support for high hit rates) JSP is better. It

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-09-21 Thread Shah Kartik
Refer to this link http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/onlineTraining/JSPIntro/contents.htm l There is one section which contains a comparison table Hi hope this will help you Kartik -Original Message- From: Ruta Thakkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 1996 2:

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2000-05-21 Thread Steve Bang
Here are some references with comparisons between ASP and JSP: Comparing JavaServer Pages and Microsoft Active Server Pages Technologies http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jsp-asp.html JavaServer Pages for the ASP Developer http://www.asptoday.com/articles/19991022.htm JSP will win hearts, but co

Re: ASP vs. JSP

2000-05-21 Thread Shawn McKisson
Technologically they are the same concept. Your question would best be answered by reading more about how ASP works vs. how JSP works, what platforms they run on, and the underlying implementation of each. --shawn - Original Message - From: Som Subhra Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: ASP vs. JSP refreshing a page

2000-05-12 Thread Shawn McKisson
Use response.setHeaderDate("Expires",System.currentTimeMillis() + 180); to set it to exire 30 min from now. Just plop in whatever date (long) you want for the time (just like the asp is doing). --shawn - Original Message - From: Peter Joseph Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL P

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-14 Thread kevin carothers
or College... -Original Message- From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jesse Clark Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP ?D ??? ??? ?" #*? ??? ??P ??? ?? ? ?? ???

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-14 Thread Osvaldo Pinali Doederlein
hitectures that > you can easily put together with JSP/EJB increases performance by another > magnitude altogether. > > Haven't seen ASP3 running on IIS5 yet, but MS better hope it's foundations > aren't "quite that dumb". > > Dave Elliot > [EMAIL PRO

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-14 Thread alex amies
pt of variable scope). I'm sure the answers are out there somewhere but the ASP documentation does not readily provide them. Alex Amies -Original Message- From: Jesse Clark [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-14 Thread Jesse Clark
?D ??? ??? ?" #*? ??? ??P ??? ?? ? ?? ??? ?? Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >> ASP scripts get interpretted everytime a user requests the .asp page. > > Ummm, do you really think the people developing the ASP engine at MS are > quite that dumb?

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-13 Thread Elliot, David (NOW)
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Boehle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 2:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP > > > > ASP scripts get interpretted everytime a user requests the > .asp page. > > Ummm,

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-13 Thread Bill White
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ET> cc: Sent by: A Subject: Re: ASP vs JSP mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and referen

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-12 Thread Jason Boehle
> ASP scripts get interpretted everytime a user requests the .asp page. Ummm, do you really think the people developing the ASP engine at MS are quite that dumb? A compiled ASP page is cached in memory, and I'm sure THAT is why speed is comparable to JSP. Jason Boehle [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-11 Thread Bill White
ASP scripts get interpretted everytime a user requests the .asp page. JSP pages get compiled into Servlets upon the first request. After that, future requests are answered by that servlet making them VERY fast. This means that JSP pages are a little slow for the first request and very fast after

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-11 Thread Narasimha, Goli
Here is a nice article.. 'Java Server Pages for the ASP Developer ' http://www.asptoday.com/articles/19991022.htm Tx Goli.. -Original Message- From: Sanjay Mistry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 9:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ASP vs JSP hi guys,

Re: ASP vs JSP

2000-02-11 Thread Jesus Angel Fernandez Diez de Teran
There is a list of pros and cons of ASP vs JSP in: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jsp-asp.html mundivía Departamento de Programación. Jesús Angel Fernández Díez de Terán [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tfno.: 606044507 > -Mensaje original- > De: A mailing list about Jav

Re: asp vs. jsp (not benchmarks)

1999-08-19 Thread David Engberg
WebLogic clustering is interesting, but we had some performance concerns about clustering with stateful entity beans. With standard WL4.5, the state of beans is cached on the server, so multiple requests don't need to hit the database. Clustering costs 50% more, and you lose all caching ... the