Hi,
this thread seems interesting, but...
When do you realy need a hole *not* to be plated? Specialy it that will
be an extra manufacturing cost (you may negociate and not be billed, but
the cost is there)
What I usualy do, and manufacturers understand is this: the pad *and*
the hole with the
off which causes quite a bit of trouble until you
> notie what you have done :-)
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> Andy
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> On Mon, 25 May 2009 15:15:47 -0300
> "Alain M." wrote:
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>> Andy Eskelson escreveu:
>>> What can h
Andy Eskelson escreveu:
> What can happen is that you may set out your component with a 25
> grid, and your circuit with a 20 grid. The component will sit on the
> grid OK, with the reference dot on a grid point, but things like pins and
> pads (if you are talking about a module) will be out of st
+1, I also vote for it.
This is probably the most needed feature in Kicad. At the moment kicad's
internal are getting a big cleanup. I also hope the after that an undo
will come...
Alain
abhi_tech_2004 escreveu:
> Is there any undo option in PCBNEW. In manual routing I am missing this
> op
Please, where can I find a .deb package for 20090216 version of kicad?
What I want is a complete debian package that I can recomend to
unexperienced users and that winl install on 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04 (if
possible)
In the official download site, there is a
kicad-2009-02-16-final-UBUNTU_8.10.tgz
> "Well lets agree on the fact that KiCad would benefit from a GUI makeover!
> And lets not forget that Autocad is a fossil from DOS ages, it is not
> representative of 2009!"
I am not sure who wrote this, but he is welcome to the developers group.
It will also be beneficial to learn more about
Ted Huntington escreveu:
> I'm still not understanding the idea behind labeling each pin by type
> (power out/in) - in particular, I have capacitors as passive - but then
> I get - "power pin not driven" at the GND power device.
That is a Kicad "quirk", a point where Kicad is very different fro
Lothar Behrens escreveu:
> Does this mean a feature like 'virtual components' with prerouted
> wires and vias will be possible?
That is a very important kicad limitation. No tracks in a componente and
it you use a workaround (like I did) anything that you place on a copper
layer wil be ignore
andrewdwork escreveu:
>
> The other really useful feature was the abilty to print with reduced hole
> sizes for prototype pcbs. In Ultiboard this was variable from 0 to 100%, but
> a nice size or option would be 50%. Is this a possible future option?
This is very usefull also for homemade boar
I am just back from a visit to my manufacturer, having visited all
facilities and processes for more than one hour. It was very interesting...
I can give some feedback about zones:
1) I was proud of my filed zones, smooth with polygons. I just found
that they have to convert all those back to
There is an automatic way that is just fine:
Menu > Post-process > Create drill diagram (2nd opt) > Drill diagram
(top center), I use Postcript.
It will automaiicaly generate a sympol for each drill size and a list
and count at the bottom.
Alain
Andy Eskelson escreveu:
>>From the plot menu, if
Hi Jean Pierre,
I also found a problem in the new version with Zone fill:
I needed a pad to be round on one side and right-angled on the other
side. To do that, I ploted an ARC on the solder-side. This makes an
extra copper area exactly as I need. The only problem is that Zone-Fill
is ignoring
Hi,
mostly I redraw ALL my libraries and modules, but using some existing
library. It is so easy that I turned it into a habit...
There are a lot of Eagle converted libraries by Renie (also Brazilian)
at http://www.reniemarquet.cjb.net/kicad.htm
I am answering to the list, maybe you get more a
Hi,
that is a feature, not a problem ;)
But you can disable it. In kicad, when you redraw a track, it removes
the old one, which is suposedly not wanted anymore. There is an icon on
the left side with a pink rubber to disable/enable that feature...
Alain
wdoe999 escreveu:
> Hi - I'm going bon
I assume that this is an answer to my suggestion... (you have been
overly economical deleting all the previous text)
wdoe999 escreveu:
> Thanks I will give that a try.
> I'll find this out when I try it, but I'm assuming that the autorouter does
> not optimize the manually routed tracks? In oth
I can tell you what *I do*, even if most people don't like it. It does
makes board up to my standards:
1) I route manualy only the part that I want with wide tracks, usualy a
contour and a few connectors.
2) then there is a problem: the autorouter does not use that track very
well (not only kic
I found these explanations, but am am missing something...
I have a board will all vias=.045 drill=.028 and I want to chage to
vias=.040 drill=.024.
With the explanations bellow, I can change the drill size easely, but
the via diameter does not change :(
I also tried edoting the file, but it i
I had a similar problem with a strange pin in an ARM processor, I solved
it maquing it "passive" so that everyting is accepted
Alain
Andy Eskelson escreveu:
> No (unless there is a really odd problem)
>
> Making a copy is always a good idea when you are messing about, but I
> think the problem
That is an annoying part of Kicad... but I once solved that editing the
.sch file. unfortunatly I don't remeber how :(
can anyone help fixing that?
just one guess: create another 74HC00-3 and edit the invisible pin...
Alain
PS I hope that one day someone will work on Kicad's useability. Today
Explaining more... the project is the .pro file, then you create the
schematic, it's the .sch file, when you save it you get the file :)
Alain
kajdas escreveu:
> Did you save the project/schematic?
>
> NJ wrote:
>> I'm following the tutorial and when instructed to create a new projest
>>
jean-pierre.char...@inpg.fr escreveu:
> These enhancements inside kicad code are not always visible by users,
> but they are mandatory to allow Kicad to be more robust
IMHO there is one big enhancement that is missing in kicad and would
have a great efect for users: *User interface*. I am talki
jean-pierre.char...@inpg.fr escreveu:
> clark.leach a écrit :
>> I created a new component and placed 4 copies in my schematic. After
>> annotating, the components are labeled #U1 - #U4 and do not appear in
>> the netlist when I run Cvpcb. I am just trying KICAD for the first
>> time so I am total
rbv one ...
>
> Phil
>
>
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alain M." wrote:
>> At leas one BUG in kicad was definetly located here in Barazil (100%
>> reproductible), just check if it does not aply to you:
>>
>> If a board does not have a PCB-edge de
At leas one BUG in kicad was definetly located here in Barazil (100%
reproductible), just check if it does not aply to you:
If a board does not have a PCB-edge defined, something is missing in the
gerber file. That was confirmed with my manufacturer too.
Alain
electric_phil escreveu:
> Hi Dan
ol?
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> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alain M." wrote:
>> You include the second file in the first one, this makes eeschema know
>> that it is all one schema.
>>
>> Then you connect the pages using the new type of connector, which is
>> what really is
You include the second file in the first one, this makes eeschema know
that it is all one schema.
Then you connect the pages using the new type of connector, which is
what really is a flat hierachy.
Alain
yajeed2000 escreveu:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "circular.file"
> wrote:
>> T
Very good suggestion... including the ability to add one new area to
another already selected
:) :)
Alain
Don escreveu:
> Greetings - I just stumbled over KiCad today, built it, installed it
> and went through the tutorial. Overall a very, very nice piece of work.
>
> Something that drives me
in fact that issu was *not* solved with that brazilian user :(
I was in the discussion because I made a board with Kicad and sent to
the same manufacturer without any problem.
My suggestion:
- I don't belive that this is version related (with latest ones)
- try making a new small board and simul
A similar issue was discussed on the Brazilian list...
It was Renies's suggestion to check if you a good board edge. It's
something to do with Gerber's limit that default to the first track in
the file.
As this is a recurrent problem, maybe it could be addressed in the
Gerber genetation code..
Dave Stensland escreveu:
> Is there any way for pcbnew to reuse layouts? Maybe there's another
> solution?
1) most obvious one: copy the file and delete some of it (I use it
sometimes)
2) copy&paste: select a block and paste it on the other board. I just
don't remember the details, but it has
probably the pin names do not match. Example: in one place they could be
named 1,2,3 and in the other IN,OUT,GND
Dick, could there be an alarm message when importing a net list about
this? My worry it that in a big board, an error could lead to a bad board :)
Alain
finnisyndergaard escreveu:
>
well, that sounds like a real bug...
But have you tried to generate the Gerber files and print them?
Alain
NdK escreveu:
> yajeed2000 ha scritto:
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>>> From some testing I just did, it seems that text is shifted 13 mils to
>>> the left (pads are at the correct coords in gerbview, text is not)).
I agree with you, and even further I normaly have also a project
library, which is particurar to a single project.
It would be very nice if some future version of Kicad could handle that.
IMHO if done carefully it can even eliminate the need to change system
libraries in Linux as this is danger
Hi all document translations people,
I would like to let you know that there is a very very good set of
tutorials in portuguese made by Renie. He is too modest, but I am
suggesting that maybe it could be translated to english if someone cares :)
it is available at http://www.reniemarquet.cjb.ne
Hi Emanuel,
I see that you are pursuing this, so I may perhaps help you in some
other way... Considering that you said that it is a simple board, I am
assuming also that it is reasonably small, then what "I" would do is this:
1) with all in place, components and nets, save what you have
2) auto
I had a very strange shematic error: in the main sheet I managed to add
2 daughter shematics exactly in the same place! The problem is that it
was not visible and I could not move only one of them... I had to edit
the file
Did anyone have some similar problem?
Alain
daystar1013 escreveu:
> Je
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
> Hi,
>
>>> Please guide me that how do I remove 'Mask' (green coating) from
>>> certain tracks to increase current.
>
>> Maybe I am missing something, but how does removing the solder mask
>> increase current in a trace? Are you saying that the solder mask
>> reduc
oecherexpat escreveu:
> But you DO HAVE a root sheet, right?
Yes. BUT it is *only* used to hold the other sheets
> I actually never tried not to
> connect global signals on the root sheet. Is it that what you mean?
That is what "global" stands for. You don't have to connect them
> And I have t
Mike Sharkey escreveu:
> On Tuesday 08 July 2008 19:55:14 oecherexpat wrote:
>> Is there any way to use multiple sheets beside using the hieracical
>> model? I think it is a great system for really large project but for
>> the day-to-day 3-5 sheet project I would definitely prefer something
>> mo
I have no officila info, but I did some research: kicad uses "power-out"
and "power-in" as attributes, most cads use only one kind of "Power".
This is what brings in that strange beast called "Power-flag" which in
fact is only a "power-out" pin because the ERC believes that all power
in the uni
kajdas escreveu:
> I tried the autorouter briefly but in the end did everything by hand.
> It still needs some polishing but every autorouter does something wrong.
I started using kicad recently but i used the autorouter in an
interesting way that I may share:
I place the components then run au
Hi,
I pay a lot of attention to such details and I chose Kicad a short while
ago exactly because schematics look nice!!! (And a few other benefits,
of course)
Could you explain in more details (maybe images) what problems are you
getting? Surely someone here can help you, or make it look good.
From the manuals and tutorials: Hold the Control key...
bobysgotguns escreveu:
> Guys, I still have no solution to this. Can someone help me out? I'm
> about to give up
>
>
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "bobysgotguns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> How do I drag multiple pads at once?
Yesterday I found 2 bugs related to this:
1) in the "edit pin" window there is an option "[ ] Common to all
elements" (may not be the exact wording, I am retranslating). This
option is *off* but the pin is used in all elements. *Workaround*: set
it to ON, press "Ok", edit the pin again and set
tjoho65 escreveu:
> Knowing it can work makes it easier to debug.
> What made this work was either to make the pin length 0 and/or hidden.
> That makes it work!
>
Yes this is one of the problems. IMHO this should be considered a *bug*
or is it considered a *feature* ???
Alain
>>
>> I suggest
I have managed to do what you want but it was tricky...
I suggest that you go back to the power.lib, export again and change
only the drawings, step by step. Some things are not permited but most
are ok...
Alain
tjoho65 escreveu:
> Hello,
>
> I cannot get the netlist generator or ERC check to
in file
board_file_format_EN.html
it states that an ARC is:
DA x0 y0 x1 y1 angle width layer
where: X0,y0 = Start point x1,y1 = end point
I am led to believe that it should be
x0,y0 = center x1,y1 = start point
but I am not absolutly sure, it could be something similar
---
I am working
Vladimir Kalyaev escreveu:
If I'm not mistaken "Print" prints out FULL-SIZED holes, not SMALL
centering hole!
Other explanations: for .6-8mm drill open area should be 0.2-0.3mm.
For 0.8mm thru-hole element a drill open area produced by "Print"
command equals to the drill diameter. I think it's
Remy escreveu:
> --- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "Alain M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Darryl Jewiss escreveu:
>>> Just finished a double sided PCB with SMD components.
>>> Just a word of warning. I used a few components import
Darryl Jewiss escreveu:
> Just finished a double sided PCB with SMD components.
> Just a word of warning. I used a few components imported from the
> Eagle libraries. The through hole components did not have the solder
> mask enabled on the copper side, it could have been a problem if my
> PCB m
Dick Hollenbeck escreveu:
> You can always find out his latest build from the top of the page here:
>
> http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
I noticed that the source versions are not exactly the same as the
binaries. Does it mean that the snapshots availabe there are tested on
Dick H. escreveu:
>
> Try this:
>
> 2) Always release the mouse button after clicking it, and BEFORE
> moving the mouse to extend the wire.
>
> Let us know if this makes a difference. At or near the new year we
> made a change that causes some of these actions to trigger on mouse
> release rat
Dan Andersson escreveu:
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 14:45:05 glinelec wrote:
--- In kicad-users@yahoogroups.com, "glinelec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My EeSchima seems to have stopped allowing wire placements.
If I select the add wire button the bottom right status shows Add Wire.
W
agustinvalenciag escreveu:
> [...] but i still don't know how to make appear the undo button.
This THE more importamt missing item in kicad... (It has already been
added to eeschema for which I am gratefull)
I would like very much to know if it is planned, in devellopemnt or
whatever :)
Alai
There is an option (button) on the left side to tourn this feature
on/off ;-)
Alain
julianomologni escreveu:
> Is there a way to connect two points using more than one track!? I'm
> routing large tracks, and I was thinking about spliting them into
> tracks with a small width, but every time I
Hi Ian,
If I understand you correctly, the new way if correct. I explain: I
already had a board manufactured with that copper line all around, so it
was all short circuited! You were probably giving a lot of work to your
manufacturer to remove that line!
What I use to do is
1) send him the boa
Hi,
I have been trying kicad (2007-12-08 Linux Mandriva 2008) with the help
of Renie, who made the Brazilian translation.
I miss very much only 3 things:
1) undo
2) undo
3) undo
is it planed to be included in pcbnew anytime soon?
I am a former Tango for DOS user, and I am trying to do somethi
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