Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Krunoslav Šebetić
On 07/20/2013 06:31 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote: Personally, I favor precise and hermetic language. People who need certain information will understand; people who don't, they don't care. That's elitism and is wrong, really wrong. Precision doesn't mean it has to be hermetic. People how know,

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I have encouraged a few native-English speakers to join this list with the aim of 1.  translating from geek or 2.  smoothing out clunky English phrases that look like translations from other languages However, since they joined there have been no further requests for individual strings

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)  For the non-geeks, stripping out the coding gives us Insert mode is enabled. The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode. Insert mode is enabled. When in Writer The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. Click on the area to enable

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1.  What is the string as is?  2.  What is the suggested alternative? I couldn't find the Oasis definitions and i loathe looking through MS Office anything.  The link given seems to be specifically about healthcare but may not have

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Sorry i am not completely clear about 2 crucial things 1. What is the string as is? Returns the actuarial rate of interest of an investment excluding costs or profits 2. What is the suggested alternative? Compute the internal rate of

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 21/07/2013 at 10:26, Krunoslav Šebetić kruno0...@gmail.com wrote: Precision doesn't mean it has to be hermetic. People how know, don't need help. Don't you find contradictory to write _help_ in hermetic language? Yes, no and no. First thing: by hermetic I mean understood by people with

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Yury Tarasievich
But what about providing some clues in the help for those who know what they want but are unacquainted with the developing system in the first place? Your approach leaves too high entry threshold. Continuing with the Calc functions, I might know what statistical distributions are but to

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks :)  I think Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows is a minor improvement on the 2nd one.  Neither make any sense to me but some background reading about the topic made it clear i would never understand enough to get a short simple sentence.  The 2nd one

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] [BUG] Fomula SYD description

2013-07-21 Thread Mihovil Stanic
Well, I gave you few. :) To find more I would have to proof read all calc formulas and I'm not really sure I want to do that. I see a lot of errors of cosmetical type in Calc, which I'm notreporting. Things like consistency.In some formulas you have nper/ npery / NPER / NPERY , some strings

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Function IRR description

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
Hi Tom Best to see for yourself what IRR is. http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/irr.asp 2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) Thanks :) I think Computes the internal rate of return for a series of cash flows is a minor improvement on the 2nd one. Neither make any sense

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) For the non-geeks, stripping out the coding gives us Insert mode is enabled. The text cursor is a blinking vertical line. Click on the area to enable the overwrite mode. Insert mode is enabled. When in Writer The text cursor is a

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) +1  The When in Writer should be taken out of that 2nd and 4th examples.  I just quickly tested in all the apps except Base and it works the same in all of them.  In Calc you only notice it if the cursor is in the formula-bar / function-bar, whatever you call that big 'white' field at

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Hi :) +1 The When in Writer should be taken out of that 2nd and 4th examples. Or be added. I just quickly tested in all the apps except Base and it works the same in all of them. In Calc you only notice it if the cursor is in the

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Thanks, Sérgio, here we go: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67148 Lp, m. 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: Please check: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Switching_Between_Insert_Mode_and_Overwrite_Mode/sv

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
2013/7/21 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: My problem with this string is that Where in Writer does not appear for translation. But it´s also true that the area is unclear. Yeah, does that mean that string in English appears also on other

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
Thanks for the report. Regards 2013/7/21 Martin Srebotnjak mi...@filmsi.net Thanks, Sérgio, here we go: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67148 Lp, m. 2013/7/21 Sérgio Marques smarque...@gmail.com: Please check:

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Tom, *, On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: [...] The overwrite mode is enabled. When in Wrtiter The text cursor is a blinking block. Click on the area to enable insert mode. I think even after correcting 'obvious' typos the paragraphs are still

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] Errors in help pages

2013-07-21 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks !  Good plan ! :) Now that i have found it i can't think of any better name than the area!  I was hoping that some inspiration would leap out at me if i ever found the area but it didn't.  Anyway i think i took this thread waaay off-topic and i am glad to see a few people have

[libreoffice-l10n] CRITBINOM function description is wrong

2013-07-21 Thread Sérgio Marques
File: scalc/01.po Context: 04060183.xhp par_id3149254 49 help.txt Comments: yXdFy ahelp hid=HID_FUNC_KRITBINOMReturns the smallest value for which the cumulative binomial distribution is less than or equal to a criterion value. /ahelp Should be: ahelp hid=HID_FUNC_CRITBINOMReturns the smallest

Re: [libreoffice-l10n] CRITBINOM function description is wrong

2013-07-21 Thread Mihovil Stanic
Nice catch. Oasis says it's greater then http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/os/OpenDocument-v1.2-os-part2.html#CRITBINOM MS Office says less then in function title description http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel-help/excel-functions-by-category-HA102752955.aspx?CTT=1 and then it says