Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
Ilske, > Avital, > another question, could the name show that the jewish people coming from > Spain to Germany brought with them this handcraft? Because in the book of > Jewish museum in Praque  it's named Spanier Arbit. Which sound to me Jiddish > as lots of Jewish people speak in former time

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
Gabriele, > IF he calls, you should let him know what Mrs Selb tells about making > traditional hats: it took about 350 + x hours for a traditional cap. May > be this is a bigger piece of lace - there is still the question of > getting the material, learning how to do it, coming to a skill that >

Re: [lace] Lace on tallits

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
Devon, I couldn't get the Met accession number to work in the search, but since you mentioned off-line that you think it's part of a chuppah, I'll leave it at that. I've seen Herschel Shanks's article. I always wondered how people identify an abstract piece of lace as "Jewish," let alone as part o

[lace] Re: Lace on tallits

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
Leonard, I'm aware of this piece of lace and have been asked about it before. Honestly, I don't know. A local weaver has told me that there are lace tallit ornaments in the collection of the Israel Museum but I've never seen them. These pieces are puzzling. Yes, they don't have holes for the frin

[lace] Black silk for gimps - ebay

2011-02-15 Thread David C COLLYER
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Re: [lace] Lace on tallits

2011-02-15 Thread Leonard Bazar
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[lace] Re: Spanier Albeit

2011-02-15 Thread Susan Reishus
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O63950/prayer-shawl-ornaments/ >From what I know of it, this looks more like a female headcovering (compared >to a kippah/yarmulke worn by a man.) Women would wear various hair coverings from snoods to lace hankies folded and pinned on their heads (and many oth

[lace] spanyer arbet

2011-02-15 Thread hottleco
Hello All! Thank you Avital for posting the links--way cool!! Is the flat metal considered "plate" as in goldwork? In a goldwork class, I've used plate to fill a space. This involved working side to side, folding/wrapping the plate around a fixed core thread, sort of like over/under a cordon

[lace] spanyer arbet

2011-02-15 Thread hottleco
Hello All! Thank you Avital for posting the links--way cool!! Is the flat metal considered "plate" as in goldwork? In a goldwork class, I've used plate to fill a space. This involved working side to side, folding/wrapping the plate around a fixed core thread, sort of like over/under a cordon

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Avital, another question, could the name show that the jewish people coming from Spain to Germany brought with them this handcraft? Because in the book of Jewish museum in Praque it's named Spanier Arbit. Which sound to me Jiddish as lots of Jewish people speak in former time here in Germany. H

Re: [lace] Lace on tallits

2011-02-15 Thread Dmt11home
See also _www.metmuseum.org_ (http://www.metmuseum.org) , search 38.19.5 There are a-m, all considered Hebrew Ritual items. See also, The World's Oldest Tallit? An occasional paper of the American Jewish Historical Society/Herschel Shanks, additional copies available from the Biblical Archaeol

[lace] Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread kloeppelki...@t-online.de
IF he calls, you should let him know what Mrs Selb tells about making traditional hats: it took about 350 + x hours for a traditional cap. May be this is a bigger piece of lace - there is still the question of getting the material, learning how to do it, coming to a skill that allows you to sell yo

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
P.S. I haven't heard from this guy since I told him that he would have to open a sweatshop and buy the materials from Austria or Germany Avital - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gm

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Avital
Devon, > I think there is some confusion going on here in terms of the word > "machine". The contraption on which Spanier Arbit is made looks like a big > round drum sitting on a platform. The platform has a vertical frame on it, > and the devices that hold the thread are looped over it. It may lo

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Dmt11home
I think there is some confusion going on here in terms of the word "machine". The contraption on which Spanier Arbit is made looks like a big round drum sitting on a platform. The platform has a vertical frame on it, and the devices that hold the thread are looped over it. It may look like a

[lace] Re: DKV congress

2011-02-15 Thread Ilske Thomsen
Hello Laurie and All, before our congress there are workshops held. Those were announced in the last issue of 2010. During the congress there are several exhibitions and lectures. This program you could find in Die Spitze 1/2011 which will come out end of march or beginning of april. For those w

[lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Laurie Waters
I don't think this is any kind of knotted lace like macrame - it's hard to knot metalic threads, and there doesn't seem to be anything about her movements that indicates she is trying to. I agree, it's some kind of braiding. Notice how she is handling thre threads, not the bobbins. There also

Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread Jean Leader
Laurie Waters wrote: > I wonder if this stamp is at all connected with Spanier Arbeit. I think she's making a braid which will be used to decorate the trouser legs shown in the next stamp. There's a very similar photo in 'Braids & Beyond' by Jacqui Carey (ISBN 0 9523225 4 4) of a woman from Om

Re: [lace] Magic thread

2011-02-15 Thread lacelady
A magic thread is an extra thread that is used to facilitate a sewing. The thread (I use about 20 inches, folded in half) is inserted next to the pin where a sewing will have to be done in the future. Tuck the folded end under the bobbin(s) on one side of the pin and lay both ends back, away f

Re: [lace] Magic thread

2011-02-15 Thread Sue Duckles
Christine Springett has done an excellent book on the use of magic threads Margaret. It's available on their website: http://www.cdspringett.co.uk/acatalog/Lacemaking_Books.html It's mainly used in the starts and finishes when you are 'sewing' the ends together. Christine is great at writin

[lace] Re: [lace] Spanier arbeit

2011-02-15 Thread kloeppelki...@t-online.de
Seeing the bobbins she uses and that she holds the threads and not  the bobbins, I believe she makes some kind of braiding or Macaramee. Gabriele -Original Message- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 01:01:50 +0100 Subject: [lace] Spanier arbeit From: "Laurie Waters" To: I wonder if this stamp is

Re: [lace] What???????on eBay

2011-02-15 Thread Sue Duckles
So Agnes's husband, Mike and I were right Not that that will make us big headed of course vbg Sue in EY On 14 Feb 2011, at 23:53, Margery Allcock wrote: I had a reply about the "lace police bobbin" after I asked how big it was: ===

[lace] Magic thread

2011-02-15 Thread dad
Can anyone tell me what a magic thread is ? I read about it in books on how to start adding threads to a pattern, but do not how to use it Help Many thanks Margaret Greenway - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, writ