some qdisc that can automatically adjush its
> rate/ceil parameter depending on achieved latency.
How do you measure latency?
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ses on the fly,
which is not a good solution in most situations.
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s rate, due to overhead, collisions, etc.
Other than that, are there really just these three classes of traffic
going out on eth1? The setup should work, as long as the classification
is working properly.
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> rest at B
Why would you assign traffic at B if it doesn't make traffic?
> We have used CBQ and HTB, with poor succes.
> Anybody can help me please?
Post your HTB script and I (and probably others) will have a look at it.
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you talking about? tc starts counting only after the qdiscs/classes were
created, so if you have a separate count somewhere which started counting
some other time, the difference will of course be huge (as far as total
packet count is concerned).
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out additional software, and a bit less of information,
you could just have a look at the tc statistics. In case of mixed
classes you can temporarily create an extra class for the packets
you want to test filters on.
If packets go into this class and it's the same number as are marked
by iptab
stand, most likely because it does not support this feature.'
Do you have 'Netfilter marks support' enabled?
(Just a guess, may be a different setting)
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That is if you're willing to regard my former flatmates as customers and
my former linux-based old PC router as high-end internet gateway.
The script will by far not be flexible enough for a project of your
scale, but at least it's user based and I put some effort into
docum
rking
about your script, maybe I can give you some better hints.
Just by glancing at a script without knowing what is wrong
it's hard to give recommendations.
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fference between rates is too huge)
or by setting r2q for each class manually.
For more about quantum & r2q, see for example:
http://www.docum.org/docum.org/faq/cache/31.html
This may fix your problem or not, if it doesn't, can you post
the tc commands you&#x
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mailing list headers and thus will send a reply to the list only. Also, I
do not mind getting direct replys in addition to what goes over the list,
actually I even do group replies on purpose, because the list does not
always work reliably.
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how can a child class have a rate of 100%?
I still don't understand what to make of a root class with
different rate / ceil settings. It's either limited to rate,
or to ceil all the time; if it isn't, it decides to jump
over it's rate under which circumstances?
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rent from 1 and 2 or 3 and 6 or 0 and 1.
It's one high- and one low-priority class either way. I would probably
set a priority just for the low priority class, so that it becomes
more obvious what is intended by this setting here.
That what you wanted?
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always has 20% of available bandwidth which can not be taken away from
it, right? If that was your intention, then it's fine.
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n there actually is.
It's extremely hard to understand the logic behind setups like this
and therefore likely to get unexpected results from them.
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orked very
well for me and my flatmates, also for gaming. But that's on a way slower
line and without Internet/MAN distinction, so we've been happy with 200ms
(versus 1000-5000ms when unshaped) pings.
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was planned and turned
out to be too complicated - maybe it is implemented but not working due
to some undiscovered bug. I'm too lazy to look at the code right now.
I usually end up using iptables for classification; I find it to be
far more userfriendly than the tc filters, and you can gr
e the rate statistics of HTB are.
I don't have access to a properly working shaping setup right now to
verify wether it's the same on my setup.
If it isn't, I'd probably check first how much rate HTB can actually
use, because it's a very bad situation for HTB when it thinks i
e helped - dunno what else to say about it.
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n are you running? Just in case
you're still suffering from old HTB bugs...
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res).
Anyway, contact the author and see what he suggests. Most likely
only the packets that open a connection are of interest.
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hard
to fix, provided the new protocol isn't something nasty.
In case of a protocol change, other projects (like l7-filter) should suffer
from this problem too. Maybe it'd be a good idea to test them and inform
the authors as well.
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. This way,
there is bandwidth that the Web class can't use no matter what, even
if the link is completely empty.
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will fit all classes. So there is no other way as to set quantum
directly at least for some classes (and I set it for all...).
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it from a different angle.
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5040 HTB leaf class (386000bit:386000bit)
In this setup, the 2048Kbit class is the limiting factor for the leaf
classes, except for the 1:2000 class, which should be used for local
LAN traffic only.
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is just exceeding your line capacity
in general, as all classes are allowed to borrow without limit, rendering
the prio setting uneffective, leading to random results.
Could you post the output of 'tc -d qdisc/class show dev $DEVICE'?
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> are looked up.
Good question. Actually I can't answer it properly. For my filters, the
order either did not really matter or I had few enough of them to use
the priority parameter to order them properly.
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> is there something i could do to bring the load down?
Are the filters already hashed? If not, that's the first thing I'd try.
There was a section on that on www.lartc.org. (Hmmm, seems to be down.).
http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.adv-filter.ha
n only tell their parent to borrow for
them, so it's 1:130 (prio 3) vs 1:170 (prio 7) here.
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Depends on what you mean by "PRIO". If you're talking about the
class parameter prio (in lower-case letters), then it's correct,
the PRIO QDisc however, can not be attached to anything but the
device itself (root qdisc) or a leaf class.
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7;t know anything at all about other traffic, and will just stupidly limit
the bandwidth to a certain value. HTB on the other hand knows about its classes
and can balance the total available bandwidth between them.
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One of the obviously decisions: Module (kernel) must inform
> userspace about current bandwidth or data amout, that programm can be send
> this moment.
Does the kernel even know about that?
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net <-> Squid (and other caches, DNS etc.)
* Squid (and others?) <-> User
and use this information to build a tc class tree.
- If you want to keep rshaper, port it to 2.6 by yourself ;-)
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root class 1:1 and it's children 1:2, 1:3 (256+256=512kbit), but
it's wrong for the children of 1:2 (200+128+20=348kbit, whereas the
parent can only offer 256kbit in total).
Also, I don't see where in your setup the classification by user is
taking place.
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lp the original poster in any way, however.
Sorry for this useless message. ;-)
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width and even then QoS did not work.
Well, if even the author says so, you should heed his advice. :-)
Even if this is not the main problem in your case, keeping this
kind of HTB tree around won't make things better.
Could you post your reconfigured setup, possibly with proper class names
il of the P2P class to 100kbit as well. The other
classes will still be able to borrow from it if the P2P class is not
using it's bandwidth.
If this does somehow not seem to be what you want, please restate
your requirements. :-)
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likely it will just ignore the rate setting and use as much bandwidth as
it needs, up to 1mbit in total.
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w anything, simply because it doesn't have to. And if the
parent won't borrow, it's children won't borrow from outside classes
either, even though they are "under the same qdisc".
> Is this correct?
Getting there, I think.
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If the script is too long, you could upload it
somewhere and post the URL to it. Or just cut out the repetitive parts if
you aren't using functions for that already anyway (I'm assuming that the
200 user classes are all created the same way).
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class always imposes a global limit, not a limit per machine. If you
want a per-machine limit, you have to create an extra class for each and
every one machine.
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ands,
putting P2P alone into the 4th band, so that it may starve when there is
any traffic other than P2P.
> I think I am doing that. I thought that is what:
>
> iptables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags
> SYN,RST,ACK A
n't understand what you mean by fair treatment, but do try putting all
ACKs into high priority band, then it will have to be dequeued.
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cs to classes. Even QDiscs that don't
come with such a class tree structure like HTB do have classes, for
example in PRIO qdisc, the prio bands of the QDisc are actually classes
that are created automatically and you can attach another QDisc to them.
What kind of QDisc chain were you thinki
On Friday 02 December 2005 23:24, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
> Yeah, that is what I want, but why do I need HTB?
You need it only if you also want to limit bandwidth somehow.
> I guess I am missing the reasoning for partitioning up the bandwidth
> with HTB rather than just letting everyone/everythin
mething better. In fact, I think it's a very good solution,
and if you're shaping using nothing but HTB, it's probably even the best
solution you can get.
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oid one SSH session taking all the
bandwidth from the other.
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necessary.
About squid, I must admit that I don't have any first hand experience with
it. Shaping it properly (on a per-user basis) seems to be a pain, which is
why I never bothered with it.
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does not make sense to set a ceil higher than rate).
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kbps
> # 1:31 is ftp with lower prio, 1:32 is ACk AND email higher prio
> tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:3 classid 1:31 htb rate 20kbps ceil
> 40kbps prio 2
> tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:3 classid 1:32 htb rate 20kbps ceil
> 40kbps prio 1
You don't have any internet traffi
spotted...
I don't like that part of the script. It's pretty much random, I can't even
remember why I'm using 0:512 for tcp, but 0:1024 for udp as packet size
criteria. The prioritization of Fair NAT is still way too static, giv
On Friday 25 November 2005 20:05, Borghart Steffen wrote:
> RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
> Could somebody please give me a hint on how to fix this?
Missing (u32) filter support in the kernel?
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properly. Otherwise you will never get anywhere near a predictable borrowing
behaviour.
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Quoting Ryan Castellucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I've called this setting it up on an IMQ device with speed 1200/256
on a 1536/384 line.
Perl code to set everything up below, if you comment out the system call,
it'll list off all the tc commands executed.
Hmmm, the output it produces for me is
rs, it probably
would be
different, though.
I have a few old P III's (450 MHz, 256 RAM) and some VIA Eden (533
MHz, 512 RAM) boxes lying around. Which one would be most appropriate
?
I think it's quite safe to say that in a normal setup any of these should be
more than sufficient.
HT
On Thursday 03 November 2005 18:52, Michael Davidson wrote:
> tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip dport
> 22 0x flowid 20:1
> tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1:0 protocol ip prio 1 u32 match ip dport
> 23 0x flowid 20:3
Do filters actually work in between differ
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 14:59, szogunek wrote:
> i.e. if class 1:{iden} have 190kbit
> i want 95kbit with burst to 190kbit for port 80
> and 95kbit with burst to 190kbit for port 110
> and 40kbit with burt to 95kbit for rest of his traffic.
So 95kbit+95kbit+40kbit=190kbit? What do you want?
e script here: http://www.metamorpher.de/fairnat/
If you're not shaping for clients behind a router, you'll need a bit of a
different approach, but if you've already read the LARTC howto and other
docs it might give you an idea of how to solve it in your
class hase 256kbit rate, 512kbit ceil. That would be okay, if
the parent could offer that much rate, which it doesn't.
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ing that
comes in too fast", in your case "drop uucp packets if they come in too
fast". Not really nice since packets have to be re-sent, but for me this
is still better than letting one file transfer hog the whole line forever
when I need bandwidth for
On Friday 07 October 2005 18:28, Brent Clark wrote:
> So my question is, for the following rules, would these increase my
> browsing / traffic, and if so, how.
I use something similar in my script... but it's useless to change TOS by
itself, because this setting is pretty much ignored everywhere.
On Thursday 06 October 2005 23:40, Carlos Rosero wrote:
> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
> but if I use iptables -m ipp2p -help I get the help page:
> So I don't know what is wrong.
The help page is provided by the iptables module, but the functionality is
in the kernel, so I guess
On Tuesday 04 October 2005 21:06, Ian stuart Turnbull wrote:
> My network is slightly different to the normal.
>
> I have a router with 4 ports DSL-D504T. In the house where I live 3
> other people have Win-XP machines on the 3 ports of the router. I have
> the other port and my machine runs Linux.
7;s
better than having a single person / download choke the line completely...
Better methods are said to exist (like tcp window resizing or whatever) but
I've never seen them implemented in Linux so far.
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On Thursday 29 September 2005 11:52, Marius Corici wrote:
> The question is: can i use the HTB class mechanism on 2 subinterfaces of
> the same physical network card without any interference?
If you're talking about aliases like eth0:0 and eth0:1, I don't know,
because I've never used them. It do
On Thursday 29 September 2005 07:44, Oleg R. wrote:
> Hello again! Well, i should maybe post everything related to this
> problem. The class 1:3 which has rate as its father 1:2, just because it
> is the traffic between the local network and the server itself. I have
> some services like mail, http
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 18:03, Oleg R. wrote:
> Well the output is really big . The classes are 1:5 and 1:14...
Easier readable in this format:
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9497/dot6ux.png
I think it shows the problem very clearly... you have a root class with a
total rate of 1k
On Wednesday 28 September 2005 17:18, Oleg R. wrote:
> I suppose the second is getting the shared bandwidth in the last
> place..but it is not so.
Every class is allowed to use bandwidth as long as it does not have to
borrow (the specified rate is guaranteed). Prio in HTB only affects
borrowing
ackets are allowed to go fast, it's a good
idea to shape them in order of guaranteeing a 256kbit or whatever channel
for internet.
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On Wednesday 28 September 2005 03:14, Daniel Phlander wrote:
> I have an error in this script as it is not working and I can't figure
> out what that is.
Your current class trees look like this:
eth0 HTB root qdisc 1: (default 30)
|
\--- HTB root class 1:1 (100mbit)
|
\--- HTB parent cl
On Sunday 25 September 2005 07:37, Daniel Phlander wrote:
> I made a script as the attached one but it doesn't make any limit and I
> can't figure out what the problem is.
This is only a quick guess by glancing at your script, but it seems that
your HTB class tree is messed up. You have 'only chi
On Thursday 22 September 2005 22:32, LinuXKiD wrote:
> iptables -A FORWARD -m ipp2p --ipp2p -j ACCEPT
> iptables -A FORWARD -m ipp2p --ares -j ACCEPT
Assuming that packets which are not accepted get dropped, IPP2P would have
to match the very first packet of every P2P connection for this to work
st and stuff.
However, this does not have to do anything with the Wiki per se.
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On Wednesday 17 August 2005 10:04, Georg C. F. Greve wrote:
> I never received any reaction from the HOWTO maintainers, not even
> when addressing them directly (see mail below).
>
> Given that a month has gone by: Is the HOWTO currently unmaintained?
www.lartc.org says:
"Linux Advanced Routing &
On Tuesday 16 August 2005 21:37, Gabriel wrote:
> If I wanted to create classes for every client on the network, I would
> have to use iptables to mark packets (using -j MARK) and not
> filters because, according to
> http://www.docum.org/docum.org/kptd/ the shaping is done
> after the SNAT, so al
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 18:53, panca sorin wrote:
> I have about 1650 preffered destination networks listed in some file. The
> script read this file and marks every package for those networks with
> the mark value of 1.
If you have a lot of IPs in this list, a hashed approach might work faster.
On Saturday 30 July 2005 18:03, ddaas wrote:
> 4) If your are in my situation (ADSL – for home), what is your htb
> configuration?
http://www.metamorpher.de/fairnat/
It's for a Linux gateway/router and more than one user though. HTB is used
to divide bandwidth between users, and PRIO for priori
On Saturday 23 July 2005 13:07, ddaas wrote:
> >>Most likely, you do not want to use more than one HTB qdisc per
> >> device.
>
> What about the example from the HTB User Guide?? Is it wrong?
Ah, you want to simulate a slow link. Didn't realize that, sorry. :-)
Have a look on the output of the
On Friday 22 July 2005 14:59, ddaasd wrote:
> What do I do wrong?
Most likely, you do not want to use more than one HTB qdisc per device.
> tc qdisc add dev eth0 root handle 100: htb
> tc class add dev eth0 parent 100: classid 100:1 htb rate 100kbps
>
> tc qdisc add dev eth0 parent 100:1 handle 1
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 22:41, nik-da-39 wrote:
> Thanks for your comment. From my understanding, I dont rely too much on
> the exact minimum bitrate, as long as the prios are obeyed by the
> packets.
...
> Thats why I also dont need the sum of the min bitrates to be
> exactly the parental bitra
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 15:51, you wrote:
> Just to make sure, when you talk about the sum you are talking about the
> sum of the minimum bitrates, not the sum of the ceil bitrates, right?
Yes. The only rules for the ceil should be that it's the same or bigger
than the rate, and that it does not
On Tuesday 19 July 2005 12:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> /sbin/tc class add dev $EXTIF parent 1:002 classid 1:101 htb rate
> 364kbit ceil 364 prio 1
>
> ## ACK
> /sbin/tc class add dev $EXTIF parent 1:101 classid 1:200 htb rate
> 140kbit ceil 364kbit prio 1
> ## SSH
> /sbin/tc class add dev $EXTIF
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:47, Dariusz Dwornikowski wrote:
> ok i did the calculations and here it is : www.tdi.pozman.pl/fir3
Is this URL valid? I get a 404.
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On Saturday 09 July 2005 05:55, Don Cohen wrote:
> What I want, at least conceptually, is that the application maintains its
> own queue of data to be sent, ordered by priority. Whenever the OS is
> ready to send the next packet for that application, it removes the
> highest priority packet (if an
On Thursday 07 July 2005 10:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The main problem is that LAN clients connect to other web-servers on the
> Internet via this box. in fact, any Internet traffic they consume, even
> if they downloading, affect the upstream available for the web-server.
Oh, I'm sorry, I s
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 22:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> it will be nice that when the web-server is not using any upstream, LAN
> clients will enjoy full bandwidth.
Somehow I doubt that traffic shaping is the right approach here; after all,
we're talking about traffic on two different interfa
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 23:23, Edgar wrote:
> I've been trying to shape the bittorrent traffic (on my external
> interface, upload), but without luck, for this I'm using layer7 filter
> right now, but I've also tried ipp2p, with the same results
I don't have any problems with BT shaping... if yo
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 18:31, Eduardo Bejar wrote:
> Should I use three rules for my purpose?
Two should suffice; just set all packets from $IP_ADDRESS to 10 first and
afterwards set all packets for port 80 to 11. I think this only makes
sense if you have two classes per source IP, though, be
On Wednesday 06 July 2005 16:05, Ricardo Chamorro wrote:
> CEIL=768
[...]
> tc class add dev eth1 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate ${CEIL}kbit ceil
> ${CEIL}kbit
I don't know if it's the cause of your problems, but the children of this
class altogether have a guaranteed rate of 810kbit, whereas the
On Friday 01 July 2005 17:48, William Marques wrote:
> tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:0 classid 1:1 htb rate 90mbit
> tc class add dev eth0 parent 1:0 classid 1:2 htb rate 768kbit
I don't know if it makes any difference, but I only use one root class and
have these two as children to that root cl
On Thursday 30 June 2005 19:26, Jefri Lie wrote:
> i got this problem, i want to shape my clients internet bw, but i
> don't want to shape my local network traffic. For information, my
> clients using wireless to connect to my router[192.168.1.254].
Common mistake is to use the internet class as r
On Sunday 19 June 2005 23:50, Rob Landrito wrote:
> Now my concern is how these are divided up. Shouldn't the sum varying
> rates of the different classes be equal to $UPLINK?
Yes, I think so too. The Wondershaper script is already very old and
compared to the scripts that are floating around no
On Saturday 18 June 2005 16:53, Bernd Froemel wrote:
> Just that I don't make any more mistakes, would this tree work
> as I expect it (with the groups and users and priority stuff)?
Sorry for the late reply, I wasn't at home over the weekend.
The tree looks better now, except the class rates stil
On Saturday 18 June 2005 15:09, Bernd Froemel wrote:
> Am I missing an important point? Unfortunately I couldn't find any
> examples showing a more complex tree.
Yes, unless I'm completely mistaken, you misunderstood something about the
way QDiscs and especially HTB works.
Your old setup looked
On Saturday 18 June 2005 10:16, Bernd Froemel wrote:
> tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 10mbit
> tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:f1 htb rate 2048kbit ceil
> 10mbit burst 50k
> tc class add dev $DEV parent 1: classid 1:f2 htb rate 1024kbit ceil
> 10mbit burst 50k
That'
On Monday 09 May 2005 10:29, Anthony Letchet wrote:
> Im still reading the howtos on how to write my own rules but since the
> wondershaper script is doing exactly what i want i had hoped that
> someone would know the commands to implement this now :)
I did such a modification to wondershaper once
On Friday 06 May 2005 15:35, Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> Has anybody on the list seen some strange mails coming from members
> with gmail accounts?
It's junk on this list that gets bounced by mail providers when LARTC tries
to send it to the list members. Here's an example:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host
On Thursday 05 May 2005 18:26, Jason Bath wrote:
> tc filter add dev $DEV parent 1:1 protocol ip prio 0 u32 match ip src
> 10.2.1.7 match ip dport 2001 0x flowid 1:10
You have to attach the filters to the QDisc (parent 1:).
HTH
Andreas
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On Wednesday 04 May 2005 13:25, Kenneth Kalmer wrote:
> Does this mean that squid recieves the data at full speed and then
> struggles to pass the data to the client who is shaped, thus becoming the
> bottle neck?
If you shape everything on eth0 down to dialup speeds, including pure LAN
traffic,
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