Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-12-27 Thread Vincent Snijders
Ciprian Mustiata schreef: Hi team, Based on that issues, and some more, me and that designer will not look back to Delphi legacy, excluding the LCL and we will try to manage to make a fork of Lazarus. The role of that fork is very easy: it will must provide bet UI for user, and will not take

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-19 Thread Flávio Etrusco
On Nov 18, 2007 6:16 PM, James Chandler Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like the Lazarus IDE as it is. Delphi 2005 and 2006 default IDE is less > pleasant to use. IMO a copycat Laz IDE revamp along the lines of recent Delphi > versions would not be an improvement. > > But IMHO it wouldn't be a d

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 18/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > with a bit of Google searching. I'll attach a screenshot in my next > > posting (just in case it's to big for this post) > > > As promised. See attachment. > Man looki

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/11/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > with a bit of Google searching. I'll attach a screenshot in my next > posting (just in case it's to big for this post) As promised. See attachment. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/11/2007, Vincent Snijders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Then starting coding instead of lengthy mails :) > > > > Is there already a public svn? > Just to show how tough it is to create a copycat ide, even with company funding Have a look and SpeedSoft's Sybil IDE. Has anybody ever

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread James Chandler Jr
I like the Lazarus IDE as it is. Delphi 2005 and 2006 default IDE is less pleasant to use. IMO a copycat Laz IDE revamp along the lines of recent Delphi versions would not be an improvement. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Vincent Snijders
Florian Klaempfl schreef: Ciprian Mustiata schrieb: The top of reason of forking is: Lazarus itself as IDE, has *not* that goals, and wanting to achieve that plans in Lazarus development today has no sense, so instead arguing and fight for every new extra change, is easier to redesign places whe

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Ciprian Mustiata schrieb: > > The top of reason of forking is: Lazarus itself as IDE, has *not* that > goals, and wanting to achieve that plans in Lazarus development today > has no sense, so instead arguing and fight for every new extra change, > is easier to redesign places where is considered m

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 18/11/2007, Ciprian Mustiata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the long term benefits: > - will hopefully became the newbie version of Lazarus > - will offer a mini-framework on top of LCL, so it will remove a lot of > "hand-made" designed code > - it will not have to be a 100% compliant rul

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-18 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On Nov 18, 2007 12:36 AM, Ciprian Mustiata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That solution is the today solution for two visions of the same problem: > what means Lazarus to became easy and more accepted. For a short term, for > sure Lazarus can be as Delphi 7 like as it wants. There seams to be some c

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-17 Thread Ciprian Mustiata
Hi Lazarus team, The reasoning of that fork is easy to accomplish as vision as was the Beryl one. Compiz wants more stability, Beryl wants more eye-candy. Compiz wants firstly to get a strong base, beryl wants to get full-featured product over the to-date compiz version. That solution is the

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-16 Thread Lee Jenkins
Ciprian Mustiata wrote: The issue I want to put on top is Lazarus resemble with 10 years old UIs, FreePascal the same, and they don't want to add value for the product is today most needed. I've not means about Lazarus bugs, all software has bugs. So, the eexpectations for a new user, (I put

[lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread Ciprian Mustiata
Hi team, I will make the following premises about me (Ciprian Mustiata) and a designer (John Merill): 1. I use Delphi and Lazarus for fun and always like the elegance of FreePascal language and the power of Lazarus project 2. I came from another world, means I work with Opensource but I am from

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread Damien Gerard
On Nov 15, 2007, at 9:33 PM, Ciprian Mustiata wrote: Hi team, I will make the following premises about me (Ciprian Mustiata) and a designer (John Merill): 1. I use Delphi and Lazarus for fun and always like the elegance of FreePascal language and the power of Lazarus project 2. I came from

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread John
Ciprian Mustiata wrote: - the metaphora of it is like Delphi 4 - 7 (!?) resemble, means one top bar with project management and components, floating windows for components, ui, errors, etc. Personally I like that "metaphora"  lot - I have used it in a few of my own projects.  It would be go

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread Christian U.
Based on that issues, and some more, me and that designer will not look back to Delphi legacy, excluding the LCL and we will try to manage to make a fork of Lazarus. The role of that fork is very easy: it will must provide bet UI for user, and will not take care about users that say: "in Delp

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread Steven Graham
Christian U. wrote: I think it is not time to make UI Forks, Lazarus is on an very good way as it is. And a lot of Delphi code can be used "as is" so i dont think that the Delphi compatibility is an bad thing. Also the Delphi 7 like GUI layout is an very good decision. For my opinion you are th

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

2007-11-15 Thread Joost van der Sluis
Op donderdag 15-11-2007 om 12:33 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Ciprian Mustiata: > Based on that issues, and some more, me and that designer will not > look back to Delphi legacy, excluding the LCL and we will try to > manage to make a fork of Lazarus. The role of that fork is very easy: > it will