On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 17:43, Paul G Rogers wrote:
> >usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The
> >price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think
> >it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash
> >drives.
>
> I'd really hat
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 16:21, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> I'd like to ask, what's your experience using a 2.6 kernel compared to a 2.4
> kernel for a router?
KP,
I think Tom Eastep might have a list of a few benefits of kernel 2.6
over 2.4 for firewalls. Ray and Charles may have some insights on the
>usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The
>price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think
>it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash
>drives.
I'd really hate to see that. Firewall service is a great use for
obsolete h
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 16:29 schrieb Venki Iyer:
> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> (started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks
> guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if
> there is any interest. I'm no
Eric,
Absolutely yes! Still haven't received your own email on this topic,
though I'm seeing others from you - I'll pop you email offlist ...
-Venki
On 03/15/2006 02:37 PM, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:20, Eric Spakman wrote:
Instead of creating a new branch, we can al
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:50, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> > Just a question.
>
> I can take care of the ones that are in my devel area. (That would be all of
> them
Everyone,
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On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:49, Venki Iyer wrote:
> Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
Venki,
I apologize. You're already a leaf project member. I really should check
our developer list. Just another example of a mistake I wouldn't have
made before my accident. :-(
http://s
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:49, Venki Iyer wrote:
> Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
Venki,
Please send me your SF user name, and I'll make you a leaf project
member.
Note to self: Review all messages marked important for new
project member additions.
--
Mike No
Hi Nathan,
>> If the directory is populated we have to change our image script to
>> download the webconf packages from this location (this is a reminder for
>> myself ;).
>
> You already do, so no changes needed.
>
We use a script to download the lwp files from your CVS space for creation
of CD
Hi Eric & Mike,
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 15:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> Thanks!
>
> Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Just a question.
I can take care of the ones that are in my devel area. (That would be all of
them, AFAIK)
> If the d
Hi Mike,
Yes to the first, the second needs some work ... :-)
-V
On 03/15/2006 02:11 PM, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
(started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:29, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Looks promising! Thanks for searching.
Eric,
You're most welcome. I'm glad I was able to locate something that might
prove useful. :-)
> >>> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> >>> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the c
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:20, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Instead of creating a new branch, we can also join effort?
Eric,
Yes. That is always an option. :-)
> > On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
> >> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> >> (started out as
Hello Mike,
Looks promising! Thanks for searching.
Eric
>>> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
>>> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it
>>> and edit some files. This is no image setup and that's where I'm
>>> looking after.
>>
>> Ok. I'll see
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:59, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > > http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
> > >
> > This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> > fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it and
> > edit some files. This
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 12:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Just a question.
Eric,
It depends on who we want to grant write access to in avail. Existing
binary lwp packages, already stored elsewhere in our repository, will
require
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:29, Venki Iyer wrote:
> In any case, I did roll a 2.6-based version of Bering late last year
> (started out as a project effort, turned into a labor of love - thanks
> guys!), could probably push it back into one of the project trees if
> there is any interest. I'm not s
Hello Mike,
Thanks!
Who is going to put the available lwp packages in leaf/bin/config/webconf?
Just a question.
If the directory is populated we have to change our image script to
download the webconf packages from this location (this is a reminder for
myself ;).
Eric
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 11:13, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are
> > webconf lrps)
>
> Ah. I missed the bin/ in Eric's post. Not something that I'd have missed
> before. :-(
>
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:54, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote:
> I'm ok with it; although it should probably be combined with Eric's
> suggestion of leaf/bin/config/webconf
>
> That way a developer could also upload a binary lwp (or lrp, yes, there are
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
> >
> This would be the same sort of setup we would use:
> fdisk the pendrive, make it bootable, copy the contents, syslinux it and
> edit some files. This is no image setup and that's where I'm looking
> after.
Er
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 13:40, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything
> > beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in
> > the same spot.
>
> Nathan,
> How abou
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:34, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything
> > beyond webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in
> > the same spot.
> >
> leaf/bin/config/webconf?
> Mike, do you agree?
Eric,
Either location is a
Hi Mike,
Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> I think my evolution idea has died. My last few attempts to bring new
> leaf branches in, or create new ones within our project have failed. The
> bering-uclibc team seems to have gained enough support that other
> derivations fail to succeed within leaf. W
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 10:09, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> What's NOT in leaf/src/config/webconf is all of the .lwp's (anything beyond
> webconf.lrp / webconf.lwp)Perhaps there's a place for them in the same
> spot.
Nathan,
How about a new directory in src/config called lwp? We can open that
di
Hello Nathan,
>>> Also it would be
>>> nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more
>>> generic place (I think we need Kp for this).
>>
>> This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project
>> admins can do this.
>
> Clarfication -
>
>
> webconf (the core)
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 09:58, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as "Documentation/Website
> Admin", and we all appreciate the job you are doing.
Nathan,
Unfortunately, I'm not doing a very good job. :-(
> On Wednesday 15 March 2006 11:02, Mike Noyes wrote
Hello Mike.
> Everyone,
> I think my evolution idea has died. My last few attempts to bring new
> leaf branches in, or create new ones within our project have failed. The
> bering-uclibc team seems to have gained enough support that other
> derivations fail to succeed within leaf. We haven't had a
On Wednesday 15 March 2006 12:48, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Also it would be
> > nice if the contents of Nathan's CVS space could be moved to a more
> > generic place (I think we need Kp for this).
>
> This requires opening a SR with the SF staff. Any one of our project
> admins can do this.
Clarficat
Hello Mike,
>
>> -Does someone know how to create an image which can be installed on a
>> USB-flash key? Is there some sort of tool (GPL) available which creates
>> such an image and/or makes a flash disk bootable?
>
> I think DSL has documentation on this.
>
>
> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/
Mike,
I fully recognize that nobody else is stepping up as "Documentation/Website
Admin", and we all appreciate the job you are doing. I hope you'll take
these as comments of what one person sees could make things a little better.
Its just my perspective - and you are more than welcome to
Everyone,
I think my evolution idea has died. My last few attempts to bring new
leaf branches in, or create new ones within our project have failed. The
bering-uclibc team seems to have gained enough support that other
derivations fail to succeed within leaf. We haven't had a new branch in
years. S
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:57, Eric Spakman wrote:
> To get things going: can you make a link from the mainpage to the lwp
> development documentation in the Bering-uClibc section?
Eric,
I think an article for the hub is in order. That would give links and
information. KP or I can post it, but I thi
Hello Mike,
>>> I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the
>>> bering-uclibc documentation. :-(
>>
>> It is:
>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html
>> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html
>>
>
> Eric,
> Hum, a google search using "site:leaf.sourcef
Hi Mike,
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:21 PM
> To: leaf-devel
> Subject: RE: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive
>
> Luis,
> I'm just one admin for this project. The other seven have the
> same permissions as I do. They can ev
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 08:03, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > I agree. I thought this content was incorporated into the bering-uclibc
> > documentation. :-(
>
> It is:
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-devel.html
> http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buc-install.html
Eric,
Hum, a google search
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:28, Luis.F.Correia wrote:
> What I fail to see is a better organized website. The problems I saw one
> year ago concering documentation search are still present. You often
> present the excuse that we don't have shell space to create the PDF's
> and some other restrictions
Hello Mike,
>> To get to these links, I went to http://leaf.sourceforge.net ->
>> Developers (box at top) -> Angelacos, Nathan (What's Related Box) ->
>> Webconf
>> (UI Box) Not exactly where I would look it I wanted to develop a web
>> interface for LEAF
>
> I agree. I thought this content was
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:09, KP Kirchdoerfer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 15:48 schrieb Mike Noyes:
> > Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
>
> Yes, the framework and the lack of lwp's has been mentioned from to time on
> the leaf lists.
KP,
Do you have a pla
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 07:22, Nathan Angelacos wrote:
> > Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
>
> I have. If you have time, please search the mailing lists for the words
> "webconf development" [BTW - Webconf isn't just bering-uClibc - it works
> with classic Ber
Hello Guys,
Just a comment from up north. Here most PC'er are still sold with a floppy
drive and I have still a few PC running with floppy-leaf, even though most
locations I serve, have now moved to WRAP units.
Linux is, and always have been, about choices. Leaf provide MANY choises in
one. Th
Hello Mike,
> Eric,
> Continuing the CD image is worthwhile, but not the floppy. Replace the
> floppy image with the new usb-hdd flash drive image.
>
I don't see any reason to replace the floppy image, it's still a nice
format for older hardware and like I said before it doesn't "bite" us. We
can
Hi!
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:06 PM
> To: Eric Spakman
> Cc: leaf-devel
> Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Flash Drive
>
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > >We can still strive to fit within 1.66M, a
I'm sort of echoing Mike's comment here, but I started to move away from
LEAF because a) it remained "floppy" centric, b) no 2.6 support, c) the
ipkg guys have come up with a good scheme for automatable over the wire
updates.
On the other hand, I still do like the "liveCD" aspects, if stand
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 23:47, Natanael Copa wrote:
> Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Another reason is, no one to my knowledge has successfully fit linux
> > kernel 2.6 on a floppy.
>
> I have 1.44 floppies with 2.6 kernel + drivers to load the rest of the
> system from either USB drive or cdrom. (one floppy
Mike,
> Eric,
> Have you or anyone else on the bering-uclibc team asked for help?
I have. If you have time, please search the mailing lists for the words
"webconf development" [BTW - Webconf isn't just bering-uClibc - it works
with classic Bering as well. Please don't blame lack of exposur
Am Mittwoch, 15. März 2006 15:48 schrieb Mike Noyes:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> > I think other projects are gaining users because they have a nice
> > webconf interface and are easier to setup by less advanced users, not
> > because they're technical better (in the contra
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> >We can still strive to fit within 1.66M, and move to usb-hdd flash drive
> >as our default image.
>
> I don't see that as mutual exclusive, we can create an USB image next
> to our floppy and CD images.
Eric,
Continuing the CD image is worthwhi
Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 14:24, Eric Spakman wrote:
>
>>> We do have minimum requirements, and don't support all old hardware. I'm
>>> just suggesting we evaluate our minimum requirements again.
>>>
>>>
>> Why should we do that? As long as we can make the setup small enou
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 01:43, Eric Spakman wrote:
> I think other projects are gaining users because they have a nice
> webconf interface and are easier to setup by less advanced users, not
> because they're technical better (in the contrary). We have a nice
> webconf framework, written by Nathan, b
Hi Mike,
>I agree that we should avoid bloat. However, it seems to me we're
>missing desired functionality by sticking to the 3.5" floppy minimum
>requirement. Other projects (IPCop, etc.) are gaining users, and even
>getting nominated for SF.net CCA.
>
I don't think we are missing desired functio
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