On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 14:18, Natanael Copa wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:31:47 -0800
> Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 07:43, Natanael Copa wrote:
> > > So my question is: Are there any interest in a new branch in LEAF? (I
> > > mean anyone more than Mike Noyes
>Everyone,
>Do we gain anything by encrypting the device leaf is installed on?
Mike, when it comes to computer security I've been called paranoid,
though it's not true. ;-) Still, when it comes to protecting a perimeter
firewall/router, we have to have confidence that it is protected. If
encrypt
>>lost major mindshare because their software was too difficult for
>>folks to install. As dedicated hackers, we looked at ourselves and
>>said: "WTF?" Then Mandrake and later Fedora came along and we saw
>>how installs should work. Even eye candy can be important. :-(
>I don't d
Hey Eric & all,
>>The effort would even be less, what is needed is a script/program that
>>creates an image which can be "copied" to any memory stick. I even have a
>>memory stick with Bering-uClibc installed, but I created it by hand:
>>-Fdisk the stick and set the bootable flag
>>-Format it
>>-I
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:31:47 -0800
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 07:43, Natanael Copa wrote:
> > So my question is: Are there any interest in a new branch in LEAF? (I
> > mean anyone more than Mike Noyes ;)
>
> Everyone,
> Here is Natanael's description of Alpine,
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 13:32, Martin Hejl wrote:
> >>So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who
> >>is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and
> >>CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's
> >>only so much 5 or so
Martin Hejl wrote:
> And as of then, I'll probably
> either be busy fighting off Spam from our lists or working on Bering
> uClibc 3.3
duh - obviously, that should have been "Bering uClibc 3.0". Sorry about
any confusion that might have caused.
Martin
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Hi Mike,
>>So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who
>>is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and
>>CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's
>>only so much 5 or so people can do in their spare time).
>
>
> M
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 07:43, Natanael Copa wrote:
> So my question is: Are there any interest in a new branch in LEAF? (I
> mean anyone more than Mike Noyes ;)
Everyone,
Here is Natanael's description of Alpine, for those that may have missed
it when it was posted.
http://www.mail-archive.com/lea
Hi Jorn,
> Now - I frequently read about the term "end-user" and I started to wonder.
> Who is the targeted end-user? Is it the DIY guy that really do not know
> much about linux but just want to have a firewall, or is it the more
> experienced user who want a good utility box with a lot of feat
Hello Jorn,
>>> So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody
>>> who is willing to work on making booting off something other than
>>> floppy and DRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and
>>> there's only so much 5 or so people can do in their spare time).
Hello guys,
I have followed the discussion on this for some time. And I must admit that
is has been sort of fun :-)
First of all because of how much "passion" there is in the discussion and
alos the fact that ideas are put on the "table" -that is always a good sign
:-)
Now - I frequently read ab
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:12, Martin Hejl wrote:
> So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who
> is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and
> CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's
> only so much 5 or so people
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 09:22, Andrea Fino wrote:
> I had some tries to use makebootfat, I have used just a bering-uclibc
> floppy image just to see if I could boot from an usb stick.
Andrea,
Thank you for testing this. I appreciate it. :-)
> If I choose usdb-hdd on the motherbord (epia 6000) it's
Hi Paul,
I'm not responding to create a big discussion about the issues you raise
(partly because I don't disagree with most of what you wrote) - but
since I've participated in the discussion so far, I want to respond so I
it doesn't seem like I'm quiet simply because you raise points that you
don
Hello Andrea;
Am Dienstag, 21. März 2006 18:22 schrieb Andrea Fino:
> Hi,
>
> I had some tries to use makebootfat, I have used just a bering-uclibc
> floppy image just to see if I could boot from an usb stick.
You used initrd_usb.lrp renamed to initrd.lrp and not plain initrd.lrp?
> If I choose
Hi,
I had some tries to use makebootfat, I have used just a bering-uclibc
floppy image just to see if I could boot from an usb stick.
If I choose usdb-hdd on the motherbord (epia 6000) it's just fine. But I
would me more fun for me to use the usb-fdd format (I have some epia5000
that has not
Subject was: Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 08:56, Paul Traina wrote:
> 5) The way we use CVS is a mess. Because diffs are stored out of tree
> in .tar.gz files and applied at build time, it's a pain in the ass
> to see what work other people have done.
I think the question is, should the PRIMARY b-u distribution be geared
towards a floppy release, or something more modern. If people with
floppy only hardware want to maintain a stripped down floppy only
version, that's great, but do we really want the fate of B-U tied to
such limitations?
F
Hi Nataneal,
Certainly yes - both as a contributor and as a user. Call it Alpine or
ReBering, doesn't matter ...
-V
On 03/21/2006 09:43 AM, Natanael Copa wrote:
Hi,
I have been following the interesting discussions in this list latest
week moving on to 2.6 kernel and USB drives etc. I
Hello Tom,
>> AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why
>> klips is still maintained as a "more mature" alternative. There is a 2.4
>> backport of the 2.6 ipsec stack available.
>>
>
> NAT Traversal *is* supported.
>
Thanks, I will take a look at the Racoon 2.4 backport.
Hello Tom,
>> AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why
>> klips is still maintained as a "more mature" alternative. There is a 2.4
>> backport of the 2.6 ipsec stack available.
>>
>
> NAT Traversal *is* supported.
>
Thanks, I will take a look at the Racoon 2.4 backport.
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 03:55, Eric Spakman wrote:
> Hello Natanael,
>
> > More realistic interesting things with 2.6 kernel is the new ipsec stack.
> > http://www.shorewall.net/IPSEC-2.6.html
>
> AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why klips
> is still maintained as a
Hello Tom,
>> AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why
>> klips is still maintained as a "more mature" alternative. There is a 2.4
>> backport of the 2.6 ipsec stack available.
>>
>
> NAT Traversal *is* supported.
>
Thanks, I will take a look at the Racoon 2.4 backport.
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 04:11, Natanael Copa wrote:
>
> I don't know if the 2.6 ipsec is good enough for production yet, but I
> think there are interesting things going on there.
>
Netfilter/IPSEC integration is finally standard in kernel 2.6.16. That's an
important step in the right direction
Hi,
I have been following the interesting discussions in this list latest
week moving on to 2.6 kernel and USB drives etc. I think that
uclibc-bering does the right thing in keeping things within a floppy.
However, at the same time it would be healthy to test some of the new
things comming in 2.6
Hello Natanael,
>
> More realistic interesting things with 2.6 kernel is the new ipsec stack.
> http://www.shorewall.net/IPSEC-2.6.html
>
AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why klips
is still maintained as a "more mature" alternative. There is a 2.4
backport of the 2.6
Eric Spakman wrote:
> Hello Natanael,
>
>> More realistic interesting things with 2.6 kernel is the new ipsec stack.
>> http://www.shorewall.net/IPSEC-2.6.html
>>
>>
> AFAIK the 2.6 ipsec stack doesn't support NAT-traversal, that's why klips
> is still maintained as a "more mature" alterna
Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> Do we gain anything by encrypting the device leaf is installed on?
>
> Example: kernel 2.6 on usb-hdd flash drive encrypted with
> cryptsetup or dm-crypt.
>
>
Its actually something that could be useful. In some situations it can
be hard/
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