Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-25 Thread George Metz
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Scott C. Best wrote: > George: > > Sorry for the late reply... Not a problem. I've only off-and-on been paying attention to e-mail and stuff I've been working on the past few days. > I more or less agree with your generalization. I think > Eigerstein proves your

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-25 Thread George Metz
On Tue, 24 Apr 2001, Ewald Wasscher wrote: > > Perhaps a way to think about it is from the point of view > > of the newcomer. > > I think we really should. Agreed. This, however, is more a function of marketing than the engineering behind it. Easy enough to do, once we have that base system

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-24 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Scott C. Best wrote: > George: > > Sorry for the late reply... > >> Time to do some good old-fashioned "market classification" here. We have >> two base-level types of people using LRP: >> >> 1. People who want to have a firewall/router that will let them share IP >> addresses and don't

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-23 Thread Scott C. Best
George: Sorry for the late reply... > Time to do some good old-fashioned "market classification" here. We have > two base-level types of people using LRP: > > 1. People who want to have a firewall/router that will let them share IP > addresses and don't want to spend the money on a comm

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-22 Thread Ewald Wasscher
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: >> Any thoughts or ideas? I'm thinking that trimming the fat off of this >> stuff, combined with UPX, might be enough for us to go glibc 2.1.x or even >> 2.2.x for base router images. At least then, it would be easier to >> transition from the basics to the fun stuff.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-22 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> Any thoughts or ideas? I'm thinking that trimming the fat off of this > stuff, combined with UPX, might be enough for us to go glibc 2.1.x or even > 2.2.x for base router images. At least then, it would be easier to > transition from the basics to the fun stuff. I think glibc 2.1.x or 2.2.x on

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain > IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the > linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). Yeah, Oxygen does the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread George Metz
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I used the EigerStein kernel as > my base. I later found that by NOT compiling modules, I could save > space let me explain. Okay. Not that I can stop you in an e-mail. =) > If there is an item in the kerne

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread Jack Coates
this was my experience as well -- I don't have numbers on hand, but I definitely reduced the size of my kernel by moving unused goodies from 'modular' to 'no.' -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > > We

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread David Douthitt
Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > Well, I generall think almost EVERYTHING should be modules. You can regain > IDE support for booting by adding the modules to the initial ramdisk (the > linuxrc mods I posted a while ago for my SCSI-RAID support do this). When I first compiled kernels for LRP, I us

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-21 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> > It'd be interesting to see how much each option affected size, but overall a > > 411K 2.4 kernel is VERY COOL, and should be quite usable for floppy > > firewalls. While I'd like to see a 'one size fits all' kernel, perhaps > > there could be a floppy only, minimal kernel, and a larger kernel

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread George Metz
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, David Douthitt wrote: > George Metz wrote: > > > The final result is as follows: > > > > 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback > >device. > > This is something that Oxygen takes advantage of quite a bit; it's not > required, but even in th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread George Metz
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: > > 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback > >device. > > This seems like a bad thing, but it is probably tolerable. Why not make the > loopback device a module? Note that a loopback device or a spare ramdisk >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Jack Coates
I would definitely put serial back in for those of us who use serial console. Everything else looks like a good idea. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: It's what's for dinner! On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, George Metz wrote: > Okay gang, got the FTP security patch from the Netfilter boys and applied > it. K

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread David Douthitt
George Metz wrote: > The final result is as follows: > > 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback >device. This is something that Oxygen takes advantage of quite a bit; it's not required, but even in the boot process it can be used as desired. Oxygen has the a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> Okay gang, got the FTP security patch from the Netfilter boys and applied > it. Kernel is compiled and I'm about to tar and gzip it. I also took the > opportunity to go weeding. > > The final result is as follows: > > 1. Kernel is no longer able to mount filesystem images on the loopback >de

RE: [Leaf-devel] Patched kernel 2.4.3 (about to be) available.

2001-04-20 Thread Hilton Travis
Hi George, Cool - I will start playing with this as soon as I get some spare time. :-) As for ipchains and ipfwadm - bugger it. If we are going to make the leap to a 2.4.x kernel, then I say we should also make the leap to a true iptables stateful firewall configuration too. I'm definitely int