Re: [LU] its Political correctness gone MAD...

2012-03-31 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
The bottom line is that all 'professionalism' and propriety have disappeared. Journalist do not check facts. They build the report around the angle that they want. An example is the electronic media. You will almost always know what the interviewer thinks but rarely the interviewee. It is as if

Re: [LU] its Political correctness gone MAD...

2012-03-31 Thread John Boocock IFA
On 31/03/2012 08:47, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: PS We get slammed today again. That'll be another win for Colin then :-) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread markbursa
With low interest rates it makes sense to borrow the money for the stadium work, unless the business was awash with cash - which it isn't. We don't know how much is being spent on the stand - I'd be surprised it's that much more than 5 million pounds. Wages and associated costs seem to be

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Rick Duniec
It might make sense to borrow at low interest rates but would you care to speculate as to the security offered to the lender in order to underwrite the £5 million facility ? Low (normal) rates are only available from normal lenders under normal lending procedures which would involve security

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Don't use normal rationale. Adopt MS mindset and you'll arrive at the answer. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com http://www.myRay.org -- Mental Health:

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Cundell
Mark B wrote: With low interest rates it makes sense to borrow the money for the stadium work, unless the business was awash with cash - which it isn't. I would agree if we were the owners of the stadium or were borrowing the money to buy the stadium. Why would you go into debt to renovate

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - From: Paul Cundell I would agree if we were the owners of the stadium or were borrowing the money to buy the stadium. Why would you go into debt to renovate someone else's property? It's a commercial property so needs a different mindset to that of thinking about

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread markbursa
The stadium buy-back clause is valid for many years, at a fixed price. My guess is the buy-back won't happen until we're in the prem again. At which point we won't have to refurb the stand as we've already done it. We don't know the source of the facility. It's possible it's secured against

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Cundell
Mark B wrote: The stadium buy-back clause is valid for many years, at a fixed price. My guess is the buy-back won't happen until we're in the prem again. At which point we won't have to refurb the stand as we've already done it. That obviously makes sense to you but its a bit cart before

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread markbursa
Would the repayments be less than the rent? And would we be able to raise further funds if we'd maxed out our borrowing facility on buying the ground now, when we can do that at some future time, with Sky TV cash? This way KB can refurb the stand and build his exec boxes now rather than later.

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Ed Morrish
On 31 Mar 2012, at 11:39, Rick Duniec ri...@ntlworld.com wrote: Commercial property may be owned by somebody else but that somebody else does not want to ever enjoy vacant possession or take up occupation themselves, and in reality just wants the income stream. Which makes me wonder; who

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Cundell
Would the repayments be less than the rent? Dunno, do you think they'd be more than the rent AND repayments on an unsecured £5m loan? And would we be able to raise further funds if we'd maxed out our borrowing facility on buying the ground now, when we can do that at some future time,

Re: [LU] What does this all mean?

2012-03-31 Thread Michael ALCOCK
I admit that the ins and outs of finance are out of my head - but it does seem strange to me to spend money on a stand that is never ever full (or once a season at best), and executive boxes that are mostly empty, rather than improving the playing squad, which might at least attract more people to

[LU] audio link?

2012-03-31 Thread Nicholas Armit
Anyone got a link?!!! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate

Re: [LU] 0 - 1 5 mins ffs

2012-03-31 Thread Andy Pyzer
no link mate, still searching Andy Pyzer From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:09:04 +0100 To: arm...@yahoo.com CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] audio link? Dont bother pal! Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2012, at 15:04, Nicholas Armit

Re: [LU] 0 - 1 5 mins ffs

2012-03-31 Thread Nicholas Armit
What's happened to the yank? Not even on the bench. From: Andy Pyzer andypy...@hotmail.com To: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com; arm...@yahoo.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 10:19 AM Subject: RE: 0 - 15 mins ffs no link mate,

[LU] 0-1 update

2012-03-31 Thread m
Lutv comms: watford look like home team. Sounds like it too. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe,

[LU] very bad link might work for you

2012-03-31 Thread Andy Pyzer
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/leeds-vs-watford-mot Andy Pyzer Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 07:22:44 -0700 From: arm...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 0 - 15 mins ffs To: andypy...@hotmail.com; ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org What's happened to the yank? Not even on the bench.

Re: [LU] very bad link might work for you

2012-03-31 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
What fucking punishment is there than supporting this lot? Sixty three years. Of which the vast majority are frustration and disappointment. FFS get the fucking defense sorted. Sent from my iPhone. Dr Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 31 Mar 2012, at 17:27, Andy Pyzer

[LU] HT 0 - 1

2012-03-31 Thread Andy Pyzer
can't hear a damn thing but seems we are on top.. but still losing Andy Pyzer ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] HT 0 - 1

2012-03-31 Thread Jim Moran
On top??? We're getting battered. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate

[LU] Kilgallen

2012-03-31 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Is playing ( well) for Sunderland ) who are beating Man City 1-3 at Manchester. Sent from my iPhone. Dr Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

[LU] 0-2

2012-03-31 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
How many home games have we lost? Our promotion year. Load of tripe. Is there any form of desensitization from supporting Leeds. I stopped smoking. But this seems a harder task. Sent from my iPhone. Dr Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist.

Re: [LU] 0-2

2012-03-31 Thread Ian Murray
Never felt so low about the club. Even when we were -15. Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2012, at 16:56, Dr. Michael Benjamin. beden...@gmail.com wrote: How many home games have we lost? Our promotion year. Load of tripe. Is there any form of desensitization from supporting Leeds. I

[LU] Watford

2012-03-31 Thread Richard Walker
To save you a job John   . follow me on Twitter richleed...@yahoo.co.uk   This was very disappointing. We were thoroughly beaten by an average Watford team that were stronger, fitter, more skilful, had more desire and in gener more idea. I know Warnock is trying to make do with a team that