Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-03-01 Thread Eric B
into a share owning democracy. Blair ! Id like a public hanging ! Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain

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2013-02-27 Thread Graham White
Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com Subject: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this To: markbu...@aol.com Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Date: Tuesday, 26 February, 2013, 12:32 Oh come on ! Tony Blair sold us to Europe, gave up our sovereignty

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
@}-,-'-- --- On Tue, 26/2/13, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this To: markbu...@aol.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Date: Tuesday, 26 February, 2013, 20:11 Would you like to put forward some non emotive

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2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
Typical Tory boy attitude, poor people have no pride, poor people don't have a work ethic. Just because some rich money grabbing capitalist refuses to pay his staff a living wage doesn't mean the staff have no pride in what they do. Do the hard working Bullingdon club keep the streets clean? Are

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
Another missive littered with assumptions and pure conjecture 1. I dont vote. Never have and never will. I guess that makes me a Tory Boy 2. I never said that workers do not have pride in what they do. I said exectly the opposite, they DO ! 3. Capitalism requires that those who risk capital

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2013-02-27 Thread Ed Morrish
On 27 Feb 2013, at 10:18, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: I dont vote. Never have and never will. You don get to complain about democratically-elected governments, then. Ed. ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

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2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
Another missive littered with assumptions and pure conjecture 1. I dont vote. Never have and never will. I guess that makes me a Tory Boy Comical in the extreme - sorry Rob but if you don't vote, you don't have a voice. You obviously don't care who runs the country because you don't even have

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
Nope. But I will about anything that affects me adversely On 27 Feb 2013, at 10:29, Ed Morrish wrote: On 27 Feb 2013, at 10:18, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: I dont vote. Never have and never will. You don get to complain about democratically-elected governments,

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
I dont vote because I have never had a suitable candidate to vote for. Consider it an abstention. However I have attended hustings. You can hedge against market risk but Im afraid that the default swaps market was found wanting so so Am,trust, Washington Mutual, Northern Rock, Lehman , RBS

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2013-02-27 Thread Brendan Osborne
GENTS Any chance you could REPHRASE THIS into a NON LU thread! MOT (Maggie off topic)!!! Ossie! ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To

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2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
I dont vote because I have never had a suitable candidate to vote for. Consider it an abstention. However I have attended hustings. You can hedge against market risk but Im afraid that the default swaps market was found wanting so so Am,trust, Washington Mutual, Northern Rock, Lehman ,

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
I go to the hustings. Have you ever been I simply cannot bring myself to vote for Sir John Stanley , he is not right wing enough, so I abstain. As I want grammar schools Im actually in favour of council taxes being increased ! I want my local services and Im very happy to pay. I use the

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
I go to the hustings. Have you ever been LMFAO - now who's making assumptions - card carrying member for 30 years, canvassed, doorstepped and demonstrated. Why would you support candidates who you aren't going to vote for - is that so you can say I didn't vote for them when they f it up? I

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Graham White
. Cheers Graham White --- On Tue, 26/2/13, Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Ian Murray ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this To: Errand Fivefold errand.fivef...@talk21.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org leedslist@gn.apc.org, Robert Woodmansey

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
On 27 Feb 2013, at 11:36, Paul Cundell wrote: I go to the hustings. Have you ever been LMFAO - now who's making assumptions - card carrying member for 30 years, canvassed, doorstepped and demonstrated. Why would you support candidates who you aren't going to vote for - is that so you can

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2013-02-27 Thread Rick Duniec
- Original Message - If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it Joseph Goebbels As practiced and proven by a certain Ken W Bates. (sorry to inject a reference to Football). ___ Leedslist

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2013-02-27 Thread Nicholas Armit
This is all a wind up right? From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com To: Paul Cundell p...@cundell.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this I go to the hustings. Have you

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2013-02-27 Thread Chris Briggs
This politics malarkey is all a load of bollocks, from the hopeless local councillor to the MPs, they are only in for career progression and to look after their own interests. Is it any wonder there is voter apathy Take the recent vote on equal marriage, my local MP is down on record as saying

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this WARNING NONLU POLITICS!

2013-02-27 Thread Richard Naef
This politics malarkey is all a load of bollocks, from the hopeless local councillor to the MPs, they are only in for career progression and to look after their own interests. Politics, I would rather get a blowjob from a rabid bull terrier. easy to say, just as easy to say for instance,

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
On 27 Feb 2013, at 12:42, Paul Cundell wrote: WOULD THAT BE THE LABOUR PARTY THEN ? As stated I have never found a candidate whose views match my own (in public) so I have not voted. When I do I will….for that I may have to stand Well it wouldn't be the chuckle brothers from the

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
On 27 Feb 2013, at 14:00, Chris Briggs wrote: This politics malarkey is all a load of bollocks, from the hopeless local councillor to the MPs, they are only in for career progression and to look after their own interests. Is it any wonder there is voter apathy agreed Take the recent

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this WARNING NONLU POLITICS!

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Briggs
I know you were only being devils advocate but to be fair I think that there are a lot magistrates that are exactly as you described Nosey? Actually knowing what goes on in your own community is a real eye opener. I know where my car is likely to get broken into, which houses have search

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this WARNING NONLU POLITICS!

2013-02-27 Thread Mark Tuffey
Are there term limits for elected officials in the UK? Cheers Mark El Presidente Wisconsin Whites Leeds United Chicago Fire ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
Paul When you go out on the knocker canvasing for clause 4 to be reinstated and people fall asleep ink their chairs, or look wistfully at their watch or just die,…do you give up ? Voting : I have not I reserve my right to vote But probably won't On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:47, Paul Cundell

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2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
Voting : I have not I reserve my right to vote But probably won't You also reserve the right to perform a volte face as soon as you're found out? whats wrong with barclays of HSBC ? Neither took bail outs and Barclays shares at 50p were a steal LIBOR rate? I loaded up to the

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2013-02-27 Thread Damian Walsh
? Didn't the tax credits policy lift more that a million children out of poverty? I think that the policy did exactly what it said on the tin and I can't think of any other welfare or redistibution or liberal policy (choose you local flavour) that was so successful since the introduction of

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Briggs
Whilst the policy did indeed lift a lot of people out of debt, the administration of it was a nightmare, it was this I was alluding to. A well meaning policy but was over bureaucratic in terms of applying, based upon previous declared earnings and projected earnings that could be manipulated,

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Damian Walsh
I'm all for sacking the bureaucrats! Damian PS but I do live in France PPS BTW I'm the one who blighted my career by telling our Personnel Department that Victor Kyam was my favorite industrialist ;) On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Chris Briggs c_bri...@hotmail.co.ukwrote: ...the

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Nicholas Armit
Leave bureaucrats alone! The Bureaucrat From: Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.com To: leedslist leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this I'm all for sacking the bureaucrats

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
On 27 Feb 2013, at 20:58, Paul Cundell wrote: Voting : I have not I reserve my right to vote But probably won't You also reserve the right to perform a volte face as soon as you're found out? Found out of what ? Not expressing myself clearly ? whats wrong with barclays of

Re: [LU] [Non-LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-27 Thread Paul Cundell
Found out of what ? Not expressing myself clearly ? If you say so, though I thought you were pretty clear LIBOR rate? It is a negotiated rate. It always was. You asked what they'd done wrong and I told you. You want to condone their illegal actions. Your choice. So the downturn that

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2013-02-27 Thread Robert Woodmansey
On 28 Feb 2013, at 07:24, Paul Cundell wrote: Found out of what ? Not expressing myself clearly ? If you say so, though I thought you were pretty clear LIBOR rate? It is a negotiated rate. It always was. You asked what they'd done wrong and I told you. You want to condone their

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2013-02-26 Thread Richard Naef
Genuinely laughed at this. Who's this lunatic posting to the list now? Keep 'em coming pal! just some young kid, just got to hope that RW doesn't hear that he works for the BBC #dontgethimstarted ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

[LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Woodmansey
, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So, she was prime minister for a decade or so, oversaw some shitty

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Woodmansey
a public hanging ! Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So, she was prime minister

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2013-02-26 Thread Nigel Barber
, defeated communism, gave half the population of Leeds their council house and turned us into a share owning democracy. Blair ! Id like a public hanging ! Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-26 Thread Robert Woodmansey
: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So, she was prime minister for a decade or so, oversaw

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-26 Thread Chris Briggs
To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So, she was prime minister for a decade or so, oversaw some shitty policies and waged a minor war. Why does

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2013-02-26 Thread Nigel Barber
house and turned us into a share owning democracy. Blair ! Id like a public hanging ! Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:43:19 -0500 (EST) From: markbu...@aol.com To: jsy...@shaw.ca, leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 18b1f.3b530a66.3e5d5

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2013-02-26 Thread MarkBursa
Thatcher fought for it, won the rebate, defeated communism, gave half the population of Leeds their council house and turned us into a share owning democracy. So wrong in so many ways! Throw the corpse on the council tip. M ___ Leedslist

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2013-02-26 Thread Robert Woodmansey
Would you like to put forward some non emotive evidence to prove you claim ? Id be delighted to discuss the merits of Maggie in terms of employment national debt europe crime Being invaded Share ownership home ownership standard of living Il let the national statistics office do my bidding

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2013-02-26 Thread Damian Walsh
That's an Old Age Pensioner you're talking about! ...Make sure she can pay up-front first Damian On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:22 PM, markbu...@aol.com wrote: Thatcher Throw the corpse on the council tip. M ___

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2013-02-26 Thread Damian Walsh
employment - less that 90% employment rate, surely the worst figures in post-reformation English history apart from a brief period of Stanley Baldwin national debt - wasn't it the fastest rate of increase of national debt in peacetime until the Falklands came along and allowed the scale to

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2013-02-26 Thread Damian Walsh
Of course I meant to say Single European Act or whatever it was called, Maastricht was Major - the memory hazes over which particular tory was responsible for which particular idiocy Damian On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Damian Walsh pussaydam...@gmail.comwrote: europe - maastricht

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2013-02-26 Thread Errand Fivefold
Rob,   you left out...   PRIDE Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'-- --- On Tue, 26/2/13, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this To: markbu...@aol.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Date

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2013-02-26 Thread Michael Gardiner
...@gn.apc.org leedslist-requ...@gn.apc.org wrote: Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:27:50 + From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com To: Nigel Barber ni...@mindbrix.co.uk Cc: Leeds List leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Message-ID: 19551047-f1a9-4e21-ab15-c9db23799

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2013-02-26 Thread Ian Murray
... PRIDE Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'-- --- On Tue, 26/2/13, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: From: Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com Subject: Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this To: markbu...@aol.com Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Date: Tuesday, 26

[LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Woodmansey
Rog, With Keith O'Brien having his name in the news do you think it is appropriate for a recognised ( and proud) left footer to use the word closet today? Had he been one of Sean Brady's flock then this would have remained in the closet. I will say one thing to Keith's credit. He was

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2013-02-25 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
On 25 February 2013 16:00, Robert Woodmansey rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: And Baroness Thatcher to you mate is alive and well. I for one will be demanding a state funeral when she does depart. Having revitalised a stagnating economy, smashed the evil of trade unionism made individualism

Re: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Woodmansey
It was Billy Beveridge and Aneurysm Bevan and the welfare state loonies who created the self perpetuating tribes of unemployable and sink estates It was his Tonyness who told them that it was not their fault that the benefits trap existed. Beveridge claimed there were five giant evils. Want,

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2013-02-25 Thread Ed Morrish
On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:00, Robert Woodman set rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: And Baroness Thatcher to you mate is alive and well. I for one will be demanding a state funeral when she does depart. Surely a privatised one would be more in keeping with her achievements? Ed.

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2013-02-25 Thread John Sykes
Knowing how the system works, I'm sure it will be a state funeral. And rightfully so too. Grampa On 25/02/2013 10:57, Ed Morrish wrote: On 25 Feb 2013, at 14:00, Robert Woodman set rob.woodman...@me.com wrote: And Baroness Thatcher to you mate is alive and well. I for one will be

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2013-02-25 Thread MarkBursa
So, she was prime minister for a decade or so, oversaw some shitty policies and waged a minor war. Why does that justify the sort of ceremonial burial only reserved for senior royals? Last commoner to get a state funeral was Churchill. Thatcher's achievements are in no way comparable to

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2013-02-25 Thread Verner Hanna
Free thinking radical? Most people call me a c@nt! :-) -Original Message- From: Robert Woodmansey Sent: 25/02/2013 15:33 To: RM Goodair Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Rog, With Keith O'Brien having his name in the news do you think it is appropriate

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2013-02-25 Thread Robert Woodmansey
An admirer of schoolboy humour. I too thought this was mildly amusing. But the truth is that it will be privatised, and syndicated all over the globe. Rog is already dancing on her grave with his rutilous ruddy cheeked mates or Irish descent. Can you imagine how much more of a bastard Id

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2013-02-25 Thread Robert Woodmansey
:33 To: RM Goodair Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] do you wish to rephrase this Rog, With Keith O'Brien having his name in the news do you think it is appropriate for a recognised ( and proud) left footer to use the word closet today? Had he been one of Sean Brady's flock