RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread pph929
This is great; I didn't know -- or had forgotten about the Source Samples. As a result, I just had what I consider to be a great idea! On my Internet Favorites list, I just added a folder named "GENIE-LEG," and while I was at the URL listed below (for the Sample Sources) I added it to that folder

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Cathy
At 12:06 PM 13/10/2006, you wrote: For instance if one enters the source "type" as census, the screen should change to present fields specific to a census sheet (enumeration district, page # etc). If the type is an archival document, the entry fields titles should also change accordingly guiding

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Jennie Goodwin
This has been one of the most interesting discussions since I subscribed several years ago! I have been collecting US Federal census data for a couple of years, and have only entered a single census for about five people into my database. I am still not sure of what I want in reports, what level

RE: [LegacyUG] Unable to open Legacy 5.0

2006-10-12 Thread Sherry/Support
Wilbur, Are you sure you're not clicking on the setup icon? If you right click on the shortcut and select Properties, what does it show for the Target uner the Shortcut tab? There's no expiration on the Standard Edition. What was the full path that Legacy v5 was installed to? The default is c

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Judy Wardlaw
Carol, on Friday, October 13, 2006 10:28 AM wrote:   .Do you mean Source Detail Text?. that's where I put it BUT because I've done very little printing out recently I  haven't looked carefully at the Add this detail etc boxes.I can't see a similar box on the Master Source entry screen to

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman
I must say that Jeff's argument certainly seems logical. A firmly structured method for data entry with choices for output sounds very appealing. I wonder what sort of heartburn (if any) that would cause for users? And on another note, did anyone notice that Geoff said sourcing improvements are

Re: [LegacyUG] Unable to open Legacy 5.0

2006-10-12 Thread Wendy Howard
Hi Wilbur, Legacy 5 should not be asking you for a user name and password to open the program. Are you sure it's Legacy that is asking for the password and not another program or your operating system? The password when first installing is "family". Maybe someone else can offer some help o

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
FWIW, an experienced genealogist can extract and enter a lot more than just the 'residence' in a census event. A census sheet provides a lot of information. For example for a 1910 census one can determine: residence, age (therefore approx. date of birth), where born and where parents were born, o

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Kirsten Bowman
List members who have said, in effect, "It all depends on what you're after" are exactly right. Unlike the probable majority of Legacy users, I don't print coffeetable books and don't have a web site. My research is strictly for posting at RootsWeb (and annoying family at holidays). I put togeth

[LegacyUG] Unable to open Legacy 5.0

2006-10-12 Thread Wilbur & Faye Cleveland
I have months of work in Legacy 5.0, and now I am unable to open the program to continue my work.    My Daughter set up the 5.0 program originally on my hard drive.  Now, it is asking for a user name and password to open.  Can you check and see if she put a password in when the program was f

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
Well, I for one have purchased all of Geoff's videos and they are excellent.  I strongly recommend them to all because they reveal all sorts of capabilities one would not otherwise know about. (As Nick says, the sources video is not comprehensive enough). However, I do think that, as I've al

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
But the user MUST decide for himself which method to use to get his desired results. Others who want different results will have to use different methods. As Elizabeth is constantly reminding us, you must decide what you want your output to look like before you can figure out how to enter you

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
As for being unable to remember how you did something in the past and ending up with a muddled or duplicated database, why not make a simple "crib sheet" for yourself, indicating how and where *you* prefer to enter different types of information? (Actually, such forward planning should be part

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Connie
Hi Ted, I have taken a snip of an email I wrote to a fellow researcher and Legacy user on this very subject describing how I enter census information within Legacy. Hopefully I have explained it well enough to be understood :-) -- I transcribe all the info from a census year within one

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Theodore Rissmiller
I am very inclined to agree. I too am a relatively new Legacy user, and have not yet decided where to put much of my source data. I would like very much to see what others do so that I can get some ideas of how to do mine to my liking. And - by the way - right here in LUG is the BEST place fo

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread ronald ferguson
Hi Teri and welcome to Legacy Land. Please don't let this debate confuse or discourage you - it is one which raises its head from time to time and no one person's opinion is either right or wrong. If you were happy to follow a certain way of doing things then simply go ahead and do it. If yo

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Bruce Jones
Thank you Geoff! I had forgotten about these templates. They are very helpful. I am now printing them for my reference. Thanks again. Bruce On 10/12/06, Geoff Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Before my airplane takes off, let me share a few thoughts First, to respond to how to record

[LegacyUG] OT - Programmer wanted

2006-10-12 Thread Dick Davis
I do hope that the moderators will not berate me for this - I would like any one that is a programmer (MYSql, visual basic, etc.) to contact me off the list for a possible assignment and I will explain more of the project. Legacy User Group guidelines can be found at: http://www.Legacy

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Bruce Jones
This is a very interesting, and helpful, discussion. Personally, I would like to see several articles describing the different approaches used and the reasons for the chosen approach. This would be similar to how we have been given 4 (different) approaches for "organizing your paper files". On 1

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Geoff Rasmussen
Before my airplane takes off, let me share a few thoughts First, to respond to how to record a census. I do add census information to an event, although a census is more of a source. However, because that census event has been entered, it will appear on the chronology showing me a date and a p

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
malkajef wrote Actually I agree with you that census is not really an "event". I have to say that I do not understand why a Census should not be treated as an Event. To me, an Event is anything that happens to a person during their life (and after, in the case of Burial!). Being Baptised,

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Bob
malkajef wrote: ... without prompts I cannot always remember exactly how or where to enter this or that data if there is no clearly suggested path. The proper place to enter information will vary from one user to another. There is NO logical conclusion that will work for everyone. The extreme

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Nicholas Cirillo
I feel I need to weigh in here. I suspect 40% of the entries on this list are, in one way or another, related to recording sources. As a relatively new genealogist, I picked up Legacy on recommendations. I did not know the importance of formatting sources and how there were standards to meet should

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread The Kepleys
Jeff said, "I hear you Ron and you make excellent points. However, I would counter that without a suggested entry path, you will have data entered one way here and another way there and sometimes even duplicated in both. My memory is not as good as yours because without prompts I cannot alwa

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
I hear you Ron and you make excellent points. However, I would counter that without a suggested entry path, you will have data entered one way here and another way there and sometimes even duplicated in both. My memory is not as good as yours because without prompts I cannot always remember exa

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
Thanks Liz   Yes, although I am very experienced at genealogy, I am very new at using Legacy and the entry of sources is awkward and prone to error for new users. It does not need to be that way.   Jeff - Original Message - From: Liz Graydon To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfam

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Judy Wardlaw
Liz Graydon wrote I have to agree with you there. I am a new user to Legacy and have spent ages inputting all the census data into events, or certificate details into say Marriage notes, Death certificate into death notes - I had failed to understand about the source details. I have been readin

Re: [LegacyUG] Witnesses

2006-10-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
Liz Graydon wrote As a new user I would be interested to know what others do in storing details of witnesses on marriage certificates.  Do you add them to the marriage notes only or do you create a separate person in the database, but do not link them - what I am thinking is that often in resea

RE: [LegacyUG] Witnesses

2006-10-12 Thread ronald ferguson
Liz, I have never bothered to acutually keep a record of witnesses on a regular basis and when I have I have just put them in notes. However, I do agree that this does not make them obvious. One could always create a Witness event and include them there should you wish, putting their names in

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
Liz Graydon wrote I have to agree with you there.  I am a new user to Legacy and have spent ages inputting all the census data into events, or certificate details into say Marriage notes, Death certificate into death notes - I had failed to understand about the source details.  I have been rea

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread ronald ferguson
Jeff, The flexibility of Legacy is, in my opinion, an asset and not an impediment To take your example of a census, for me this a source and not an event. The census records events, or if you prefer "facts"; these being name, approximate age and place of birth, residence and occupation. Thus t

[LegacyUG] Witnesses

2006-10-12 Thread Liz Graydon
As a new user I would be interested to know what others do in storing details of witnesses on marriage certificates.  Do you add them to the marriage notes only or do you create a separate person in the database, but do not link them - what I am thinking is that often in research you do find that t

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread Liz Graydon
Jeff I have to agree with you there.  I am a new user to Legacy and have spent ages inputting all the census data into events, or certificate details into say Marriage notes, Death certificate into death notes - I had failed to understand about the source details.  I have been reading odd things a

Re: [LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread Chris Coward
Legacy understands OR so its best to enter conflicting dates in the form "22 Feb 1749 or 1750". This would avoid confusion with double dates. Chris - Original Message - From: "Cynthia Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] date

[LegacyUG] Entering source details

2006-10-12 Thread malkajef
I personally (maybe it is me) find entering source details confusing and prone to error and inconsistency. For instance in entering census data for an individual there seems to be 2 places where one might inadvertently enter the details of what is on the census sheet. a) in the event notes b)

RE: [LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread Jack Earnshaw
IF the date was in UK records, then to retain "double dating" and get it right, you need to type 22 Feb 1751, which then inserts the date 22 Feb 1750/51. Prior to 1752 a different calendar was in use where 25 March was "new year's day" rather than 1 January. Jack -Original Message- From

Re: [LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread ronald ferguson
Personally I don't use double dating so I don't know as a fact, but logic says it would. However, logic might not come into it :-) Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/

Re: [LegacyUG] Searching "Sources"

2006-10-12 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I RECCOMEND printing out all your sources with people attached as above, then as you fix one, cross off on the print out. maybe make two copies, 1 for permanant storage, and on to cross off on. Rich --- John Roose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a great group. My thanx to Ron, Cary, Jonathan, >

Re: [LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread Jenny M Benson
ronald ferguson wrote It sounds like you have double dating checked. Options>Customise>Dates and uncheck. But do you really want to ? I haven't tried this, but if you unchecked the Double Dating box, then corrected the "wrong" date by typing it as required and then rechecked the box, would it

[LegacyUG] Double dating unchecked! date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread Cynthia Russell
Thank you Ron - that solved it! Cynthia Reply It sounds like you have double dating checked. Options>Customise>Dates and uncheck. But do you really want to ? Ron Ferguson >I had listed 22 Feb 1749/50 meaning the year was either 1740 or 1750. Now >that I have decided to use 1750, I am unable to

RE: [LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread ronald ferguson
Cynthia, It sounds like you have double dating checked. Options>Customise>Dates and uncheck. But do you really want to ? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ *New Blog

[LegacyUG] date format - Individual's Information Page

2006-10-12 Thread Cynthia Russell
Hoping someone can help to undo a date format problem, I apparently created. I had listed 22 Feb 1749/50 meaning the year was either 1740 or 1750. Now that I have decided to use 1750, I am unable to correct the situation. I type in 1750 and when I tab to go to another section of the page it swit

RE: [LegacyUG] RTFs, PDFs and layouts-Word vs WP

2006-10-12 Thread Peter Haughton
I'd actually like to have the time to investigate how an rtf file WITH images converts into WordPerfect, but I don't. So I don't know how it positions the images at all. In WP you should be able to right- click on an image and choos from a list: position, wrap, content, size ... and lots of others