Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
I was thinking - when the LDS gets all that microfilm scanned and online maybe they would be amenable to renting storage lockers in their underground vault. Or will they be keeping the backups? O, rats. JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread John Carter
As much as we might want to protect information, the best of intentions can't cover everything - the Library at Alexandria held the world's knowledge (at the time) but much of it was lost over the centuries. Maybe there's a market for storage vaults on Mars? There would some delay in acquiring th

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
Are you also able to keep them away from the risk of fire, flood, earthquake, hurricane, tornado, tsunami, war, pestilence, comet striking the earth... ? JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/jlog.html Brian Lightfoot wrote: I still have a very old h

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Brian Lightfoot
I still have a very old hard drive left over from the first 486 that I built. It is now used on a Win98 computer for the grandkids with games only on it. The holds a whopping 110 megabytes. Yes, folks, while technology is getting better, manufacturing practices certainly aren't. I've said this bef

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
Outside of losing 10 years of personal journals from CD's gone bad, I've done alright with my array of devices. My present theory is this: Spread your backups around. You only have to lose it all once to lose it all. JL JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists http://www3.telus.net

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread John Carter
It very much depends on the brand and model. In the past six months I've recovered data (for other people) from a 3 year old Western Digital IDE drive (not bootable) and an 18 month old Samsung SATA drive (bad sectors and not bootable). These were both desktop PCs, so not subject to the mechanica

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Wendy Lavender
I'm going OT here, but for anyone who has experienced a corrupted operating system and not a physical failure to their hard drives but still been unable to retrieve their files, there's boot disk software on the internet free to download called The Ultimate Boot CD. You can boot to this little

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
I've read people talking about backing up to their external hard-drives once a week. If you keep your drive in a remote location that would make sense. But if it's sitting right next to your computer you can do it whenever you want to with a program like Syncback. Free version is at http://w

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Joseph
I appreciate your comments. I've been enlightened. Thanks. ronald ferguson wrote: Joseph, How long is a piece of string? As I understand, the time it will last depends on the quality of the disc, the more expensive the longer they last, at least in theory. Anything from 2 to 10 years. I

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread ronald ferguson
Joseph, How long is a piece of string? As I understand, the time it will last depends on the quality of the disc, the more expensive the longer they last, at least in theory. Anything from 2 to 10 years. I also believe that Rewritables retain data for an even shorter period of time - maybe up

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
I heard 5 years, then I heard 2 years, then some-one told me they'd had disks go bad in under one year. I'm down to thinking no-years. I think it's one of those things where if it works - great! If it doesn't, good thing I had another plan. I use external hard-drives, flash-drives, online

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Joseph
No, Disc, CD and DCD are to me one and the same. When speaking of a hard drive (or HD), that's the term I use. Sorry for the misunderstanding. When you say long term, just how long is long term, short term... etc? Maybe a place online... a storage place. Don't they have those? And t

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Arnold Sprague
And me. I'll add my two-bits that putting Legacy, or anything else, on CD/DVDs is a great *temporary* way to make backups. Then quickly run the CD/DVD to a safe deposit box or some safe place *away* from your computer. Of course, occasionally check to see if you can read your CD/DVD right *af

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Rodney Hall
Couldn't agree more with offsite backups - I use Carbonite online backup, which is automatic and only costs $49.95 a year for unlimited backup. I've blessed it many a time! -- Rodney HALL Heywood, Lancashire Suaviter sed fortiter Agreeably but powerfully ~ [EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread ronald ferguson
Joseph, I'm afraid your message is not clear. Initially you mention CDs and DVDs for storage and then refer to disc. by which I take it you mean hard drives. Respecfully, I would suggest the neither CDs nor DVDs are suitable for long term storage. As well as the potential problems which have b

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Joseph
Scanned, that's an image which means that they won't compress much Your best deal (imho) would be CD'sset up to act like a hard drive. Or if you don't mean to replace them, and only wish to store the files, then I'd burn them to DC's or DVD's and leave the disc open so more can

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Gary Templeman
When Windows became corrupted, it was probably not necessary to lose any data even though it was on the same drive partition. Mechanical failure of a hard drive can (and usually does) affect all partitions. Physical failure of some sectors or clusters on a drive will affect what is stored in tha

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread John Carter
USB "thumb" drives are good for storing Legacy data, but I also have almost 9GB of scanned photos and documents (wills, census, land records). The time and expense of research made $100US for an external hard drive acceptable to us, even though we're retired and don't have unlimited funds (How man

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Jim Terry/Support
Heather, Amen to what you say. I have talked to a Legacy user on the Gulf Coast who lost her home to Hurricane Katrina. She lost her CD backups, which she made faithfully and put in a case right beside her computer. I also know a person who have had his home burglarized and his computer stolen. So

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Heather Stovold
And I know some people have already suggested putting stuff to an email, or other internet space. and that would qualify Just wanted to definately recommend an "off-site" backup. I lost the vast majority of my genealogy in 1988 (before I was on the internet) because of. a house fire!

[LegacyUG] backing up

2008-03-20 Thread Janis Gilmore
My procedure: 1. Back up to the hard drive every day 2. Back up to an external hard drive every week or so 3. I have recently signed up for Mozy, and it backs up regularly, without prompting. (Thanks to whoever on this list suggested it.) 4. I have an account at YouSendIt.com, not the free one, bu

RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures not in report

2008-03-20 Thread Janis Gilmore
I have started attaching the occasional pdf. For instance, in the case of a lengthy compiled military record of a direct ancestor, which I have painstakingly transcribed, I will attach a pdf, so that I will have the full text. I would probably not do this for a collateral line, but might abstract t

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Joseph
That's wise As with others, I have learned to back up my files regularly. I have files on another hard drive as well as on CD's... I remember the second or third time I lost information and had to go back and get the most recent backup then start from there and rebuild Usua

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Croteau
You are correct Steve. I have become obessed with backing up using the zip files created with Legacy. I copy those zip files to 1) A separate hard drive I plug in through a USB port - aobut once a month 2) My USB flash drive - every day 3) My laptop - just about every day - when I move from th

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread MagnoliaSouth
Right. I too learned the hard way that a backup on your present computer means nothing. Every single computer goes out and most of the time its without a warning signal. I've been through more computers than you can shake a stick at, and I'm here to say all computers get corrupted or die in the bli

RE: [LegacyUG] Pictures not in report

2008-03-20 Thread ronald ferguson
Barbara, If you haven't seen my reply. or haven't got a solution, please contact me off-list. It seems that E-mails are taking variable lengths of time to get through and not necessarily in the right order. Not to mention the number of incorrect messages saying the've bounced! Ron Ferguson

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Paul Underwood
In addition to backups to my c: drive, I send a weekly email attachment to my children of the backup .zip file, with a copy to another email account of mine. The file stays in the provider's server for download if it's ever required. Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [Le

RE: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread Steve Ayres
I agree with what you say but not all can afford an external hard drive. But I do copy the backup files to a USB stick or to a rewriteable DVD just in case. Steve> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:07:42 -0700> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Legacy Files

2008-03-20 Thread JLB
Perhaps we who speak of backing up to our C-drives do that because we also back up our files to external hard-drives and online services. If your main drive gets fried it will also fry your second partition. I certainly wouldn't go that route myself. JL JLog - simple computer technology for