Re: [OSM-legal-talk] City of Kamloops Free data.

2011-08-01 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/8/1 Matthew Buchanan matthew.ian.bucha...@gmail.com: Please comment on whether this is okay, and if so if anyone wants to help. it is OK if the local mapping community agrees to that and finds the imported data useful, suitable, accurate and up to date. If there is no local community to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-04 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/2 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi,   suppose there's a node that has been created by user A with no tags on it. Suppose the node has later been moved by user B. A has not accepted the CT, while B has. Will the node have to be removed when we go to phase 5 of the license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-17 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/17 Dermot McNally derm...@gmail.com: On Friday, 17 June 2011, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer o...@amen-online.de wrote: I read your other mail on that topic. I don't personally have any objection to addressing weaknesses in the definition of active contributor. If we take the voting issues

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-06 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/6/6 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: On 05.06.2011 02:09, Frederik Ramm wrote: Frederik the great is only interested in remapping  Silesia (Schlesien)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license for Wiki Loves Monuments

2011-05-16 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/15 Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Funny, based on my last question, the OSM will not be able to use cc-by-sa data in the future. Some say that we aren't able to use CC-BY-SA data now because we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Breaking up is hard to do (was New Logo in the Wiki)

2011-05-06 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/6 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: A friend of mine recently did a lot of mapping which was then removed by someone else in preparation for an import. Shit happens. really? Where was that? Cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list

[OSM-legal-talk] CT, time period for reply to a new license change (active contributor)

2011-03-27 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
Sorry that I come quite late with this, it might be too late, and it was bothering me occasionally already for some months: if we really decided in the future to change the license, isn't 3 weeks a little short for such an important issue? I am referring to the time span required for an active

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone ought to do something ... dealing with violations of OSM's geodata license

2011-03-20 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
there is this page in the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution to document and keep trace. cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL / CT and CC-BY-SA Pictures / Texts / Video

2011-03-11 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
Excuse me if this question has already been raised. I am currently involved in a project that has chosen OSM as cartographic base for a portal for tourists. There will be an ontology to allow for semantic research and the idea is to display POIs, pictures and other multimedia content on an OSM map

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL / CT and CC-BY-SA Pictures / Texts / Video

2011-03-11 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/11 Richard Weait rich...@weait.com: Be more specific about your ontology.  How does your ontology interact with an unmodified OSM database? the ontology objects were planned to work aside from OSM and to only have spatial connection to the cartographic data, but I encouraged them to use

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CC-BY-SA / Non-separatable combination of OSM+other

2011-02-02 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2011/2/1 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: I know that at OSM we always used to say: If the layers are separable then you can have different licenses on each; if not, then not. Of course this would result in a map that can *not* be copied under CC-BY-SA because it is virtually impossible to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?

2010-11-17 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/17 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: I don't think a change to public domain licensing could cause any compatibility problem. PD but still with certain conditions respected: no re-engineering, attribution, etc. like requested by the OdbL? As far as I understand this, while the tiles

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Best license for future tiles?

2010-11-17 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/11/17 Matthias Julius li...@julius-net.net: On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 18:20:39 +0100, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Btw: isn't a rendering a derived database as well? A database of pixels?  I would not regard a printed map as a database. And neither would I the electronic

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 28 September 2010 21:03, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: The question I am asking myself is: Is the ability to import as much government data as possible really worth the hassle? And my personal answer is a clear no; because to me,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution in digital services like WFS

2010-09-24 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/23 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@latuviitta.fi: What is hard is to give attribution and show the license. Of course I can add Access constraints element to the service metadata ows:AccessConstraintsData from OSM, license CC-BY-SA/ows:AccessConstraints I'd say that is satisfying

[OSM-legal-talk] SRTM data

2010-09-22 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
AFAIK SRTM-data is licensed PD. OSMC http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMC_Reitkarte is composed of (at least) 2 different layers, and I vaguely remember this was due to licensing issues OSM-SRTM. The cyclemap on the other hand is using one layer with OSM and SRTM combined. I'd prefer the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] SRTM data

2010-09-22 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/22 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Grant Slater wrote: The NASA SRTM filled dataset is PD licensed. No issue. The 3rd party void filled SRTM is often not PD licensed. Some sets are explicitly non-commercial. This is the case with the map that Martin mentioned, it uses the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Would The ODbL and BY-SA Clash In A Database Extracted From a BY-SA Produced Work?

2010-09-07 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/7 ed...@billiau.net: I got far enough through the Australian Copyright Act at the weekend to discover that this won't extend to Australia. does this count, given that the contract (CT) is British law? cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/29 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I haven't made a statement about the Kosovo information. I'm sure that whoever has imported it has made sure it would be compatible with future

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] ODbL vs CC-by-SA pros and cons

2010-08-30 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/8/31 Liz ed...@billiau.net: On Tue, 31 Aug 2010, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: actually I feel that you treated this issue a little negligent. The import guidelines stated since 5 March 2008 (quote): At the time of writing (spring 2008), well spring isn't in March (here) spring starts

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-26 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/23 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 7:37 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/7/20 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: If you find a planet on a bus there's no contract you may be affected by.  There may be copyright, which may protect

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass

2010-07-23 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/7/20 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com: If you find a planet on a bus there's no contract you may be affected by.  There may be copyright, which may protect the content.  If there's nothing written on it then you basically have to assume All rights reserved, provided there's any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Potential huge License violation - anyone know anything about this?

2010-06-03 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/3 Phil Monger phil...@gmail.com: I want OSM to be used in this way, but properly - and with according advantages given to end users. Companies *need to know* they cannot assert copyright over the mapping they take in this way. +1 cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] viral attribution and ODbL

2010-04-19 Thread Mrtin Koppenhoefer
2010/4/19 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: do we really want to require the 38th party down the line to still attribute OSM no matter how diluted the OSM content has become? yes. Why should it have become diluted? If you give this up, you do almost the same then releasing PD, and that's