Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: 3) Linux-2.6.15 is used, which means that some deices (e.g., IDE CD-ROMs and input devices) won't get modaliases or won't generate uevents properly. There is already a note in the book

Re: /usr/bin/lndir

2006-02-23 Thread Chris Staub
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Chris Staub wrote: The BLFS Xorg instructions compile lndir and copy it to /usr/bin before compiling X. And every package in *LFS compile programs and copy them to their final positions. What's your point? -- Bruce Well, you were asking where the "2nd copy" of lndir

Re: /usr/bin/lndir

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Chris Staub wrote: > The BLFS Xorg instructions compile lndir and copy it to /usr/bin before > compiling X. And every package in *LFS compile programs and copy them to their final positions. What's your point? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Greg Schafer wrote: > Matthew Burgess wrote: > > >>As regards to LFS unstable living up to its name, that's probably >>because we chose the right name for it, i.e. we don't try and pretend >>that it's something it isn't. I don't see why you thought a :-( was >>necessary. Yes, testing could h

Re: /usr/bin/lndir

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Tim van der Molen wrote: > As Xorg 6.9.0 (I don't know about 6.8.2 and 7.0) and XFree86 4.5.0 > install a copy of lndir to /usr/X11R6/bin, is there a reason why we keep > the one in /usr/bin? 6.8.2, yes. 7.0 no. Why not keep it in /usr/bin? It is a general purpose program. -- Bruce -- http:/

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Greg Schafer
Matthew Burgess wrote: > As regards to LFS unstable living up to its name, that's probably > because we chose the right name for it, i.e. we don't try and pretend > that it's something it isn't. I don't see why you thought a :-( was > necessary. Yes, testing could have been more thorough, but

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 2/23/06, Tushar Teredesai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/23/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sigh.. even tho' jhalfs provides the facility to prevent this kind of > > damage, LFS unstable is still living up to its name :-( > > Isn't that the point of having a revision control s

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 2/23/06, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sigh.. even tho' jhalfs provides the facility to prevent this kind of > damage, LFS unstable is still living up to its name :-( Isn't that the point of having a revision control system and an unstable branch? -- Tushar Teredesai mailto:[EMA

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
Greg Schafer wrote: matthew wrote: Author: matthew Date: 2006-02-21 13:50:22 -0700 (Tue, 21 Feb 2006) New Revision: 7392 Modified: trunk/BOOK/chapter01/changelog.xml trunk/BOOK/chapter03/patches.xml trunk/BOOK/patches.ent Log: Add Bash patches 009 and 010 from upstream Matt, patch 01

Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Benton
Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: For those of you who are still patient enough to test the udev_update branch out, please find an updated Udev rules file at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~matthew/pub/. I think it corrects all the problems Alexander pointed out. Tha

Re: r7392 - in trunk/BOOK: . chapter01 chapter03

2006-02-23 Thread Greg Schafer
matthew wrote: > Author: matthew > Date: 2006-02-21 13:50:22 -0700 (Tue, 21 Feb 2006) > New Revision: 7392 > > Modified: >trunk/BOOK/chapter01/changelog.xml >trunk/BOOK/chapter03/patches.xml >trunk/BOOK/patches.ent > Log: > Add Bash patches 009 and 010 from upstream Matt, patch 010 b

Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: For those of you who are still patient enough to test the udev_update branch out, please find an updated Udev rules file at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~matthew/pub/. I think it corrects all the problems Alexander pointed out. Regards, Matt. -- http://lin

Re: Udev_update branch: /dev/pts and /dev/shm directories not created

2006-02-23 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Matthew Burgess wrote: > Andrew Benton wrote: > >> With the udev_update branch nothing loads the uhci-hcd module. > > Thanks. Alexander, do you know if this is one of those problematic > drivers that has since been fixed up in 2.6.16-rc4? I doubt it; the kernel source for 2.6.15.3 has somethin

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Bryan Kadzban wrote: 3) 'Quoted-printable' will avoid failing in the case of a non-ASCII character. It'll still be mostly readable without a mail client, though (because most characters are 7-bit ASCII) -- IMO, that's the best of both worlds. I would also say that viewability with Vim is "nice

Re: Udev_update branch: /dev/pts and /dev/shm directories not created

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
Andrew Benton wrote: With the udev_update branch nothing loads the uhci-hcd module. Thanks. Alexander, do you know if this is one of those problematic drivers that has since been fixed up in 2.6.16-rc4? Regards, Matt. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.

Re: Udev_update branch: /dev/pts and /dev/shm directories not created

2006-02-23 Thread Andrew Benton
Richard A Downing wrote: Bryan Kadzban wrote: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="?*" MODALIAS=="?*", RUN+="/sbin/modprobe ${modalias}" Thanks Brian. I understood that. Unfortunately changing the rules didn't fix my problem. Nothing loads the modules. So I guess I must have a typo somewhere else.

Re: Is there a page for the open bug list in the development of lfs and blfs?

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
nadav vinik wrote: But I didn't find any page in the website which include open and critical bugs of the development lfs and blfs. All of our bugs are available on the 'Trac' system. For the particular information you want, see http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/report/1 and http://wiki.l

Re: Text in fstab page about /dev/shm

2006-02-23 Thread Matthew Burgess
Chris Staub wrote: The /dev/shm mount point for tmpfs is included to allow enabling POSIX-shared memory. The kernel must have the required support built into it for this to work (more about this is in the next section). IMO, the second sentence is redundant as tmpfs support is also required

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Bryan Kadzban
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 11:20:02AM -0500, Jeremy Huntwork wrote: > >If the text is not US-ASCII and the content-transfer-encoding is > >quoted-printable, all non-ASCII bytes are converted to the "=XY" > >notation, where X and Y are hex digits. ASCII pats of the message are > >readable with vim t

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
I wouldn't like that as well. It makes it harder to write rules to sort the email if info is in different headers. I would prefer to have the subproject abbreviation in the Subject: header. Why couldn't you filter on the From: header if it ends up containing the subproject's name? To include

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Gerard Beekmans wrote: > That's not to say it always has to be that way. I personally have no > real preference using something like [LFS Ticket #number] or [LFS > #number]. I would keep the # symbol in it. My preference would be [?LFS $number]. > Tickets are sent as From: Linux From Scratch >

Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Matthew Burgess wrote: 11) The deprecated udev_run_hotplugd helper is needed for compatibility with BLFS (look at HAL). >>> Why? I thought Kay was actively helping the HAL guys out? Why has >>> he caused it to break by deprecating the udev_run_hotplugd helper? >> That's just obsolete

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
kevin lyda wrote: I think what was meant was this (this is a cut and paste of mutt's index pane): 3 N 23/02.15:52 BLFS Trac #45: Gnome 'sploded lots and scared my kitt 4 N 23/02.11:17 LFS Trac#12: Thingy go boom 5 N 23/02.11:16 LFS Trac#1: It no workee unless

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
kevin lyda wrote: 3 N 23/02.15:52 BLFS Trac #45: Gnome 'sploded lots and scared my kitt 4 N 23/02.11:17 LFS Trac#12: Thingy go boom 5 N 23/02.11:16 LFS Trac#1: It no workee unless the thingamugug is 6 N 23/02.10:45 Jeremy Huntwork +-> 7 N 23/02.08:34

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread kevin lyda
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 08:34:11AM -0700, Gerard Beekmans wrote: > >If we did what you suggest above, the Subject would be (I think): > > > >[LFS Trac] #number: Summary > > Close enough for me. I think what was meant was this (this is a cut and paste of mutt's index pane): 3 N 23/02.15:52 B

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: If the text is not US-ASCII and the content-transfer-encoding is quoted-printable, all non-ASCII bytes are converted to the "=XY" notation, where X and Y are hex digits. ASCII pats of the message are readable with vim this way, but non-ASCII requires Mutt. If viewa

Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread John Gnew
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: The "iseries" rules in our file are also useless on anything other than s390 boxes. Wearing my pedant's hat for the moment, iSeries != s390 (I believe iSeries is POWER, or it might be ppc64). I know somebody did LFS on s390 a while ago,

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Gerard Beekmans wrote: [LFS Trac] #number: Summary Close enough for me. Alright. I'll test a couple of changes... -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Indeed. You have to keep in mind how Trac parses its config files, what variables are available. Some of the suggestions put forth so far I'm sure are possible, but would take some serious hacking of Trac or the creation of our own Python plugin for Trac. Any "serious hacking" seems a bit sill

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Gerard Beekmans wrote: Judging by the lack of responses (okay, granted, not much time has gone by yet) nobody really cares either way. How about we take a step back for a minute and figure out *how* to change Trac. Indeed. You have to keep in mind how Trac parses its config files, what variab

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 2/23/06, Nico R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about the following? > [LFS #1234] Useful subject lines > [BLFS #] Handle ticket numbers with 5 digits or more > [CLFS #4711] New build method I like this the best. Combined with the From: field, I wouldn't have a problem figuring

Is there a page for the open bug list in the development of lfs and blfs?

2006-02-23 Thread nadav vinik
I started to install LFS 6.1.1 and before I pass to the real installation in section III, I want to know what is the state of the development, maybe I should to start again since the stabe is a little old. But I didn't find any page in the website which include open and critical bugs of the develop

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Gerard Beekmans
Nico R. wrote: We all know that it is about tickets, so we could drop that. Always keep in mind, though, there's more people than us. If we make things clearer by adding a word or two, it's not always a bad thing. It's even more grammatically correct. That's not to say it always has to be t

Re: Bugs in udev_update branch

2006-02-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: The "iseries" rules in our file are also useless on anything other than s390 boxes. Wearing my pedant's hat for the moment, iSeries != s390 (I believe iSeries is POWER, or it might be ppc64). I know somebody did LFS on s390 a while ago, but

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Nico R.
Gerard Beekmans wrote: > It can be made more clear. And is the project name truly necessary in > the Subject header. We already know which project a ticket belongs to > based on the mailinglist it was sent to (this of course is me assuming > most everybody uses separate email folders to filter emai

Re: Comments on Trac ticket mails

2006-02-23 Thread Nico R.
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: [...] > > If the text is not US-ASCII and the content-transfer-encoding is > quoted-printable, all non-ASCII bytes are converted to the "=XY" > notation, where X and Y are hex digits. ASCII pats of the message are > readable with vim this way, [...] So quoted-printabl