Re: For reviewing a new free license. People who have read and understand the GPL

2022-03-08 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 08/03/2022, Julian Daich wrote: > El 6/3/22 a las 14:27, Pen-Yuan Hsing escribió: >> >> Dear Julian, >> >> Have you looked at the CERN Open Hardware License 2.0? >> >> https://ohwr.org/project/cernohl/wikis/Documents/CERN-OHL-version-2 >>> It

Re: For reviewing a new free license. People who have read and understand the GPL

2022-03-06 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear Julian, Have you looked at the CERN Open Hardware License 2.0? https://ohwr.org/project/cernohl/wikis/Documents/CERN-OHL-version-2 It has a strongly-reciprocal variant which is like the GPL but for physical objects: https://ohwr.org/cern_ohl_s_v2.txt Is there something you're trying

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-26 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 1/25/22 12:48, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 23:16:36 -0500 Richard Stallman wrote: If you explain in a few lines what issues you include in "hardware freedom", I could see what attitude or attitudes I have towards those issues. They may be quite different

Help Chile write free software values, privacy, and digital sovereignty into their constitution

2022-01-26 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear libreplanet, Only a few precious days left, but I just saw the following post by Drew DeVault titled "Help Chile write free software values, privacy, and digital sovereignty into their constitution": https://drewdevault.com/2022/01/19/Help-Chile-promote-digital-freedoms.html Relevant

Re: FSF continuously harms Free Hardware

2022-01-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Quick note: There is the Open Source Hardware Association which maintains the definition of Open Source Hardware here which enshrines the four freedoms for free software into hardware designs: https://www.oshwa.org/definition/ Yes, I fully recognize and acknowledge that they use the term

Re: Colonizing education

2020-12-09 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Can you upload it to the Internet Archive? (https://www.archive.org/) And if you can upload the "source" of your videos that would be even better! :D On 09/12/2020, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss wrote: > On 09/12/2020 03:53, msunet wrote: >> Do you have that iso available somewhere that

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-27 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/25/20 10:51 AM, Denver Gingerich wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:34:28AM +0800, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: 2. To my surprise, the highly proprietary messaging app WhatsApp uses the GPL-licensed implementation of the Signal protocol developed by Open Whisper Systems for its self-proclaimed

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-27 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/25/20 10:35 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Pen-Yuan Hsing [2020-09-25 04:35]: This reminds me of two worrying examples I recently saw where even GPL-licensed software are still used to create proprietary software! 1. As someone with an academic background, I've seen and used many statistics

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-27 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/25/20 10:12 PM, Jean Louis wrote: * Pen-Yuan Hsing [2020-09-25 04:08]: ... a big majority of new software published on platforms such as GitLab or GitHub uses permissive licenses with MIT being one of the most popular. I distinctly remember a graph published, probably by GitHub

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/25/20 9:44 AM, Pedro Lucas Porcellis wrote: That's really cool! I knew that sourcehut is aiming to be a fully free replacement for platforms like GitHub, but had wrongly assumed it to use a permissive license. One more good example of a business around copyleft free software (maybe we

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/22/20 11:08 PM, Aaron Wolf wrote: Important topic. Some links: https://media.libreplanet.org/mgoblin_media/media_entries/2076/bkuhn-state-of-the-copyleft-union.webm https://wiki.snowdrift.coop/about/licenses see footnotes and links there too, such as

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/23/20 6:15 AM, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: Yes, that is then not any more free software, it becomes proprietary. Yes. It becomes proprietary and proprietary software is harmful as it doesn't respect userfreedom. > .. What we're talking about is not whether they are free or not, it's

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 9/23/20 5:28 AM, Yasuaki Kudo wrote: I would really like to hear broad philosophical arguments concerning this. Although I am no expert, it seems the crux of the problem is "intellectual property" itself? Broadly-speaking yes. And when it comes to software, it specifically concerns

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi Jim, 1. I'm embarrassed to say that as a dues-paying member of the FSF since 2009, I didn't know there's a team of volunteers who can help compose a response until this post from you! Since the paper I linked to was from 2017, the journal will certainly accept for consideration, but

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
I'm afraid I have to agree with Marinus on this point. Interesting idea to `grep` the licenses on a Debian VPS system, but I think they represent a particular subset of software, many of which have been core components of GNU/Linux for a long time, when copyleft licenses likely had a larger

Re: The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
That's EXACTLY why we need Copyleft. We need to push forward and show that companies and products can be built around licenses like the GPL. For instance, sourcehut (AGPL) is one of the most promising examples of a company built around a complete free and open-source ecosystem, and which truly

The sad decline of copyleft software licenses? :(

2020-09-22 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
(whew, finally changed my registration on this list to my FSF member alias address! :D) Ugh. I don't know if it's by chance, but recently I've read many an opinion claiming that copyleft free software licenses such as the GNU GPLv3 are, among other terrible qualities: 1. Viral 2. Cancerous

Re: Libre alternative to google forms

2020-05-13 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi Roberto, I don't know if this will fit your needs, but I've been building a personal list of free software replacements for common proprietary programs (I know there are many lists like this), and it includes a section on online forms: https://gitlab.com/penyuan/libreplacements/#surveys

Governance of Digitally Transformed Societies meeting 2020-05-11

2020-01-26 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear libreplanet, I'm not sure of the best place to share this, but given it might be related to software freedom, I thought I might as well post it here. I just stumbled upon an upcoming meeting about "Governance of Digitally Transformed Societies" seemingly under the auspices of the

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

2019-03-18 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 18/03/2019 08:30, Ineiev wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2019 at 05:32:35PM +, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: (2) Outside of software, I think it is also crucial to consider everything else (e.g., teaching material like artwork, multimedia, text, etc.). Specifically, there should be discussion around free

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] ethical edtech edit-a-thon

2019-03-16 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi all, Much has already been said, so I'd just like to suggest a few quick things for reference: (1) There is a very clear and informative graphic delineating the differences between what is free (as in freedom, not free of charge) software, open source software, and copylefted software

[libreplanet-discuss] Libre online membership management system??

2018-07-10 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear Libreplanet, Sorry I'm not quite sure who best to ask, but I recently received a mailing list posting for a group I'm part of looking for a good "online membership management system". I'm pasting their requirements below. Note that AFAIK they are quite cost sensitive since they have

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Videos from LibrePlanet

2018-03-30 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks John for your and the entire team's efforts! I am wondering: Have you and the other organisers considered depositing all the editable slides and recordings on Archive.org or Wikimedia Commons? They both sound like potentially good homes to me. On 30/03/18 18:10, John Sullivan wrote:

[libreplanet-discuss] Global Legal Hackathon 2018-02-23

2018-01-10 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi all, just to have it in our collective minds, here's this year's Global Legal Hackathon: http://globallegalhackathon.com/ At first glance I think there's a good chance to pitch a project at this event to hack on. Maybe an improvement on a license? Or developing an easy-to-use app to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Does VIA's x86 CPUs have non-free "ME"s?

2017-08-21 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Intel_AMT_versions=792147452 Pen-Yuan Hsing: Dear Libreplanet, As we all know, a major problem with Intel (and AMD) x86 CPUs is that they come with a proprietary "Management Engine (ME)" (or "Platform Security Processor" for AMD) that

[libreplanet-discuss] Does VIA's x86 CPUs have non-free "ME"s?

2017-08-21 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear Libreplanet, As we all know, a major problem with Intel (and AMD) x86 CPUs is that they come with a proprietary "Management Engine (ME)" (or "Platform Security Processor" for AMD) that is not only non-free but also with demonstrated security holes. I just recalled that VIA Technologies

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Code license principles in academic publications?

2017-06-09 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 08/06/17 06:30, amunizp wrote: El 7 de junio de 2017 21:02:46 GMT+01:00, Pen-Yuan Hsing <penyuanhs...@gmail.com> escribió: Dear libreplanet-discuss, I have been asked to comment on a draft article about best practices/principles in publishing academic computer code (e.g. scient

[libreplanet-discuss] Code license principles in academic publications?

2017-06-07 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear libreplanet-discuss, I have been asked to comment on a draft article about best practices/principles in publishing academic computer code (e.g. scientific R scripts, Python code, etc.). Though the article is supposed to be short, I think a huge glaring problem in this draft is that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] GnuBee: Fully libre NAS?

2017-03-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thank you James for the feedback! For the record the only personal gain I'd like from this is for the crowdfunding to succeed to I can get a fully libre NAS. :) And therefore I'm planning to back the project. Still hoping it will succeed! On 24/03/17 13:46, James McFarland wrote: Yes I

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] GnuBee: Fully libre NAS?

2017-03-24 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
or sharing! Marcus On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Pen-Yuan Hsing <penyuanhs...@gmail.com <mailto:penyuanhs...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, FYI I just noticed the GnuBee Personal Cloud 1 NAS that appears to be fully free (as in freedom): https://www.crowdsupply.c

[libreplanet-discuss] GnuBee: Fully libre NAS?

2017-03-23 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi all, FYI I just noticed the GnuBee Personal Cloud 1 NAS that appears to be fully free (as in freedom): https://www.crowdsupply.com/gnubee/personal-cloud-1 Can anyone here tell if it really is 100% freedom-respecting? I've been waiting for years for a libre NAS and would love to get one

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Freedom friendly online survey software?

2017-02-20 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thank you Aaron for the useful links! On 20/02/17 17:07, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 02/20/2017 06:46 AM, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: Dear libreplanet, I often see online surveys/evaluations done with Google Forms or Surveymonkey, but these services are not freedom or privacy respecting

[libreplanet-discuss] Freedom friendly online survey software?

2017-02-20 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear libreplanet, I often see online surveys/evaluations done with Google Forms or Surveymonkey, but these services are not freedom or privacy respecting. Are there replacements for them that *are* freedom and privacy respecting? Thank you! ___

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Products you want to see in the 2016 Giving Guide?

2016-12-03 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-10-31 21:20, Zak Rogoff wrote: Hi everyone, The FSF's Holiday Giving Guide is scheduled to launch in November, so I'm putting out a call for product suggestions. Stuff that's new this year is especially welcome, but we're not limiting ourselves to new products. Here's last year's

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Libre-respecting CS or engineering toys for kids?

2016-12-03 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-12-01 15:58, Christopher M. Hobbs wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 13:23:47 + Pen-Yuan Hsing <penyuanhs...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks! I would love to get the book for myself, but are there toys/gifts that would be for 3-5 year ol

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Libre-respecting CS or engineering toys for kids?

2016-12-01 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks! I would love to get the book for myself, but are there toys/gifts that would be for 3-5 year old kids? On 01/12/16 13:13, Berkem Dincman wrote: The book would be for you, with dozens of suggestions. As a Guide for programming instructions. 1 Ara 2016 ÖS 4:09 tarihinde "Pen-Yuan

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Libre-respecting CS or engineering toys for kids?

2016-12-01 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
1st Edition 1 Ara 2016 ÖS 3:32 tarihinde "Pen-Yuan Hsing" <penyuanhs...@gmail.com <mailto:penyuanhs...@gmail.com>> yazdı: Dear libreplanet, I'm hoping to buy some toys as gifts for a couple kids aged between ~3-5, and I'm hoping to get them (especially the little

[libreplanet-discuss] Libre-respecting CS or engineering toys for kids?

2016-12-01 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear libreplanet, I'm hoping to buy some toys as gifts for a couple kids aged between ~3-5, and I'm hoping to get them (especially the little girls) interested in the STEM (science, technology, engineering, and math) subjects. Can people recommended some freedom-respecting toys for this

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Aseprite is now proprietary software

2016-09-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 02/09/16 16:35, Serge Hooge wrote: In light of the above items, I believe it will be so useful to have a free software wiki page or FAQ (or some other thing) where it not only answers common questions or dispels common misconceptions, but also elaborates on specific concrete ways to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Aseprite is now proprietary software

2016-09-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 02/09/16 15:59, Serge Hooge wrote: It appears that the developer has posted an explanation here: http://dev.aseprite.org/post/149797781837/new-source-code-license Quite a shame, really. I agree, this is quite a shame. I also think it is very important to not dismiss posts like these, and

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [fsf-community-team] Golden Rule

2016-08-15 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-08-15 04:12, arthur_tor...@comcast.net wrote: Worth pointing out that there have been successful demonstration cracker attacks on some cars (Mopars if I recall correctly) where the attacker was able to do everything from remotely play with the radio station / volume and the climate

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Brand Names, loyalty and ill Effects

2016-07-30 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-07-31 01:07, A. Mani wrote: In the FOSS software world, a number of developers have sense of brand loyalty that is influenced by corporate world concerns. This has its ill effects. How do you see all this? Best A. Mani Sorry I don't quite get what you mean by "sense of brand loyalty"

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] suggestion/help. GPL enforcement.

2016-06-06 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-06-06 20:42, John Sullivan wrote: al3xu5 / dotcommon writes: If copyright laws didn't exist, then we would not need GPL! GPL exists just to "circumvent" copyright... Regards Unfortunately that's not the case. It's true that the GPL uses the power of

[libreplanet-discuss] European Interoperability Framework consultation

2016-05-10 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Here is an article about the current European Interoperability Framework consultation period: http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/05/eu-tech-standards-why-frand-not-compatible-with-open-source/ While the article encourages everyone to submit a comment for the consultation to push for

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apple's iTunes deletes ALL your music files

2016-05-05 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 2016-05-05 21:08, Fabio Pesari wrote: On 05/05/2016 08:05 PM, Dave Rolek wrote: However, as I suggested in the other subthread, can we build the list in a wiki form on the LibrePlanet wiki? I appreciate the officialness and collection done by gnu.org, but it's hard for a community member

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apple's iTunes deletes ALL your music files

2016-05-05 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 05/05/16 18:10, Aaron Wolf wrote: If you are ever talking to people about the importance not just of software freedom abstractly but of the *principle* of user control over software and technology, here's powerful resource to describe the abuses of proprietary software companies:

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] The dangers of repository deletion

2016-04-13 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 12/04/16 20:06, zerothis baud wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: "zerothis baud" > Date: Apr 11, 2016 7:28 PM Subject: RE: The dangers of repository deletion To: Cc: As an amateur archaeologist of videogames, I'd say only a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Non-Free JavaScript

2016-04-06 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 06/04/16 17:17, Mike Gerwitz wrote: On Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 09:13:33 +0200, Fabio Pesari wrote: IIRC Matt Lee told me they won't replace Google Analytics Do you know if anyone has suggested Piwik? I was able to convince Gitlab to switch to it for their own hosted instance. Granted, they

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Equivalent of GPLv3 for hardware???

2016-04-05 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 03/04/16 08:06, Fabio Pesari wrote: On 04/03/2016 03:38 AM, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: Finally, RMS said that since making copies of hardware is costly compared to software, free hardware is not as urgent of an issue right now. That might be true, but I propose that since technology will progress

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Help Scratch gain HTML5 support and be free!

2016-04-04 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks for bringing up Snap! I've been wondering if there is a more-freedom-respecting replacement for Scratch. A few quick questions: (1) Can Snap! be run completely offline and locally? (2) What are some CS/Education resources that you follow? I'd like to follow them, too. :) (3) Regarding

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Equivalent of GPLv3 for hardware???

2016-04-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 03/04/16 01:38, Dave Rolek wrote: On 03/30/2016 07:51 PM, IngeGNUe wrote: On 03/30/16 18:38, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: On 30/03/16 13:45, Mike Gerwitz wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:23:26 +0100, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: I really like the idea of copyleft and licenses such as the GPLv3. What

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Equivalent of GPLv3 for hardware???

2016-03-30 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 30/03/16 13:45, Mike Gerwitz wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 12:23:26 +0100, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: I really like the idea of copyleft and licenses such as the GPLv3. What is the closest equivalent of GPLv3 for hardware? This is rms' position: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-hardware

[libreplanet-discuss] Equivalent of GPLv3 for hardware???

2016-03-30 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hello, First of all, I acknowledge this list is mainly about free software, but I believe hardware is closely related so I am risking a question about it here. If there's a better place for this question, please accept my apologies and let me know where to go! I really like the idea of

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Buying the rights to proprietary programs to free them

2016-03-15 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 15/03/16 20:47, Fabio Pesari wrote: Update: I contacted a popular indie game developer and asked him what he thought about this idea. He was already familiar with free software since he released one of his lesser games under the GPL but still, he didn't answer. His silence left me some time

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Solving the prisoner's dilemma in crowdfunding

2016-02-19 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hi Aaron, Thanks for the link to snowdrift.coop! I have always wondered about how modern free (as in freedom) software projects can find a sustainable source of funding, I think free software advocates need to seriously tackle this issue, and looks like lots of thought went into your

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best e-reader for free software

2016-02-03 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks for this, I'm interested in such a reader as well. However, when I go to what seems to be the Bebook's official website at http://mybebook.com/, all I get is a blank page. Am I trying the wrong URL or is it something with my browser? On 03/02/16 21:19, John Sullivan wrote: I use a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free software podcasting solutions?

2015-11-04 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks Andrés, gpodder looks like the most promising solution so far. I'll pass the message along! On 03/11/2015, Andrés Muñiz Piniella <a75...@alumni.tecnun.es> wrote: > El 3 de noviembre de 2015 13:08:33 GMT+00:00, Pen-Yuan Hsing > <penyuanhs...@gmail.com> escribió: >>

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Properly attributing free fonts?

2015-11-04 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
fonts, is it required by some licenses to provide attribution in my works? What can be done to clean up the mess? On 02/11/2015, Thomas HARDING <t...@thomas-harding.name> wrote: > On 02/11/2015 15:30, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: > >> Regarding that, I notice that in almost all cases

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Server service for social media

2015-11-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Great tip about Corehost, never heard of them before. Are there any other freedom-respecting hosts out there? Might be nice to compile a list! I'd also prefer hosts that run on 100% renewable energy if there is one? On 2015-11-02 04:12, Isaac David wrote: Corehost offers virtual private

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Community/resource for free software UI/UX?

2015-11-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Is there an equivalent mailing list or forum for this topic other than on IRC? On 2015-11-02 16:15, Aaron Wolf wrote: On 11/02/2015 08:07 AM, Zak Rogoff wrote: Hi everyone, Does anybody know about a forum or an irc channel or wiki? I've been looking around and hoping to find one. If not, I'd

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Question about free (as in freedom) data from free software

2015-11-02 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
13:05:38 +0000 > Pen-Yuan Hsing <penyuanhs...@gmail.com> escreveu: > >> (2) I also want to re-iterate my wish to find an equivalent to this >> mailing list, where people can discuss issues related to free data, >> free culture, Open Access, etc. in general. &

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Open Knowledge Policies: Science in EU

2015-10-16 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thanks Bruno, great article! Two quick questions about the article: (1) In it it said: "The cost of editing for a typical paper is between 1 percent and 3 percent of the cost of funding the research to produce it." -> Is there a source for this statement? I'd love to see it. Because I can

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF's communication, ethical discussion in consumerism, why software freedom matters

2015-09-25 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
ften disappointed by RMS's communication techniques; also, I am sometimes disappointed by a tendency amongst other freedom promoters to take not just what RMS says but also how he says it as gospel. As usual, I think it's good to always do some thinking for oneself.) Cheers, Ramana On 23 Septemb

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] FSF's communication, ethical discussion in consumerism, why software freedom matters

2015-09-25 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Thank you very much for those great readings/resources! I love your IBM and VW examples as well, will use when I talk to others about the subject. It'll be great if some one has tied all of this into Free Software, perhaps as a book or documentary! On 23/09/15 03:56, J.B. Nicholson-Owens

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-21 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
acher that teaching the students to be good citizens is just as important as the actual coding! Sorry about the really long reply. but you have really sparked my excitement on this topic!!! I just wish that I actually know how to code myself On 20/09/2015, Andrés Muñiz Piniella <a75...

[libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-17 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Hello, First of all, thanks everyone for your help several weeks ago on the Freeing of a scientific software I mentioned here. I have a couple follow up questions which I plan to post in another message, but for now there is another issue. I learned that a teacher in a secondary school in

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Suggestions for a coding club that is just starting?

2015-09-17 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
ng to help (also free). I have been involved for the past few > years and the kids learn a lot! > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 19:18 Thomas HARDING <t...@thomas-harding.name> > wrote: > >> Le 17/09/2015 17:10, Pen-Yuan Hsing a écrit : >> > Hello, >> > >> >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Free Software does earn programmers a living

2015-08-11 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Sorry I wasn't clear. I was trying to make the exact same point that Free Software is not referring to $$$ at all. I was saying that a lot of people get confused and think that Free Software has to be free of charge, too which is obviously not the case. That said, I'd love any help or suggestions

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] RE Gratis software being released as proprietary

2015-08-10 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 07/08/15 15:52, Steen Engholm wrote: Liberating software is against that normal trend to protect, or profitize, one's work. Interesting. I'm still fairly new to Free Software, but my understanding has always been that it is OK to make monetary profit from Free Software? Or do you mean

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

2015-08-10 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
On 08/08/15 04:01, Mike Gerwitz wrote: * Even if they one day want to sell this software, keeping it Free will actually make it easier. I'm not sure about easier. I'm not an economist or business strategist, and I'd be absolutely terrible at selling software; but business models vary

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

2015-08-07 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
into exactly what the science is since I don't think it is very relevant and would take a lot more space, but I can explain if you are curious. On 2015-07-31 07:03, Mike Gerwitz wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 22:27:28 +0100, Pen-Yuan Hsing wrote: I have yet to meet these scientists in person

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

2015-07-31 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
...@libreplanet.org wrote: Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:27:28 +0100 From: Pen-Yuan Hsing penyuanhs...@gmail.com To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary Message-ID: caaeprtfqlcfncgtkvhnaqda_trruynphpmr7jwvwwliky7a

[libreplanet-discuss] Gratis software being released as proprietary

2015-07-29 Thread Pen-Yuan Hsing
Dear Libreplanet, I believe I am faced with an opportunity to spread the news about Free Software this coming weekend, and would love to get your suggestions on how best to proceed. In a few days, I will be attending an international wildlife conservation meeting, and a group of conservation