Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-25 Thread J Leslie Turriff
On 2021-05-24 08:11:58 quil...@riseup.net wrote: > I doubt that a sight impairment issue can be solved by a window manager > or by graphics. What I think that a computer which is friendly to blind > users should do is get information (local or external) and interpret it > in braile or in sound.

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-24 Thread Jean Louis
* quil...@riseup.net [2021-05-24 16:12]: > I doubt that a sight impairment issue can be solved by a window manager > or by graphics. What I think that a computer which is friendly to blind > users should do is get information (local or external) and interpret it > in braile or in sound. The

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-24 Thread quiliro
I doubt that a sight impairment issue can be solved by a window manager or by graphics. What I think that a computer which is friendly to blind users should do is get information (local or external) and interpret it in braile or in sound. The input side is quite solved, as of nowadays.

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Dennis Payne [2021-05-08 21:40]: > On Sat, 2021-05-08 at 20:52 +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Dennis Payne [2021-05-08 19:20]: > > > Connecting at a lower level would probably give worse results. For > > > Gnome software for example, I don't believe they write text using > > > the X > > >

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-08 Thread Dennis Payne
On Sat, 2021-05-08 at 20:52 +0300, Jean Louis wrote: > * Dennis Payne [2021-05-08 19:20]: > > Connecting at a lower level would probably give worse results. For > > Gnome software for example, I don't believe they write text using > > the X > > Windows functions. Instead they handle that

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Dennis Payne [2021-05-08 19:20]: > Connecting at a lower level would probably give worse results. For > Gnome software for example, I don't believe they write text using the X > Windows functions. Instead they handle that themselves and send the > image result to X. Additionally X Windows is

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Arthur Torrey [2021-05-07 23:42]: > As a sighted user I don't really feel competent to make a list - as > doing so would be similar to the issues I have with all the various > engineering / design student projects that attempt to create a > 'better' wheelchair without ever really understanding

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-08 Thread Dennis Payne
Connecting at a lower level would probably give worse results. For Gnome software for example, I don't believe they write text using the X Windows functions. Instead they handle that themselves and send the image result to X. Additionally X Windows is generally on the way out with Wayland being

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-07 Thread Arthur Torrey
As a sighted user I don't really feel competent to make a list - as doing so would be similar to the issues I have with all the various engineering / design student projects that attempt to create a 'better' wheelchair without ever really understanding the day to day needs of actually having to

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Arthur Torrey [2021-05-07 04:58]: > Jean Louis pointed at Vinux - which I had found and looked to me > like a near-dead project - The home page is non-https, and is > skeletal at best... The Wiki is talking about the 'latest version' > as of 2015, and while it says the last update was in 2019,

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Arthur Torrey
Jean Louis pointed at Vinux - which I had found and looked to me like a near-dead project - The home page is non-https, and is skeletal at best... The Wiki is talking about the 'latest version' as of 2015, and while it says the last update was in 2019, the download site doesn't connect

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Jean Louis
> > "text spreadsheet" calculator using awk, tsort and bc/calc that allows > > me to mark up the calculations on the forms and then compute the > > dependencies, generate calculations and generate the results as an > > output text file. We are s late with speech recognition. Calculations at

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Jean Louis
* Arthur Torrey [2021-04-29 05:21]: > I sort of agree, but at the same time, it appears to me that the > FLOSS software world is far less 'disability friendly' than the > fruit company or the other big name OS My S.O has just become > legally blind due to medical issues, and while I've been

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Jean Louis
* Paul Sutton [2021-05-06 10:51]: > One problem is that I think there are now lots of patents on speech > recognition. Does this make using speech recognition harder to implement, > we have text to speech too, could that be implemented at the UI level, even > in menus or dialogue boxes. The way

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
On 06/05/2021 08:34, Jean Louis wrote: "text spreadsheet" calculator using awk, tsort and bc/calc that allows me to mark up the calculations on the forms and then compute the dependencies, generate calculations and generate the results as an output text file. We are s late with speech

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss
On 06/05/2021 07:11, Greg Knittl wrote: Hi Ali, I'm sighted and have plenty of trouble interacting with the world through my computer. I can't imagine how I would manage to even get as far as going through all the steps to convert pdfs to text if I were blind. My hat is off to you. As a

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-06 Thread Greg Knittl
Hi Ali, I'm sighted and have plenty of trouble interacting with the world through my computer. I can't imagine how I would manage to even get as far as going through all the steps to convert pdfs to text if I were blind. My hat is off to you. As a sighted user trying to do my income taxes

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-05 Thread Leland Best
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Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-05-04 Thread alimiracle
hi I'm a blind person When I want to read the pdf file I converting it to a text file have fun and be free ali miracle على 4/27/2021 ‫11:34 AM، كتب Greg Knittl: fyi. pdf accessibility issues may be bigger than just XFA...

Re: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-04-29 Thread Greg Knittl
ibreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org Subject: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed fyi. pdf accessibility issues may be bigger than just XFA... https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat/anyone-know-how-a-blind-person-is-supposed

RE: Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-04-28 Thread Arthur Torrey
. I don't know what the solution is, I just wish there was one. ex-Gooserider -- Arthur Torrey - --- > Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 14:34:30 -0400 > From: Greg Knittl > To: Jean Louis > Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > Subject: Blind user comp

Blind user complaining on Adobe web site

2021-04-27 Thread Greg Knittl
fyi. pdf accessibility issues may be bigger than just XFA... https://community.adobe.com/t5/acrobat/anyone-know-how-a-blind-person-is-supposed-to-create-or-edit-a-pdf-when-acrobat-isn-t-screen-reader/m-p/10186392?search-action-id=167355598977=10186392 I see enormous convergence of interest