* Yasuaki Kudo [2022-05-17 16:53]:
> So far, here is my own explanation of the apparent contradiction, based on
> the comments from people who kindly participated in our discussion:
>
> - GNU Emacs runs on Windows, a proprietary system. That's great
> - because it can be used as an opportunity
Hello, Yasuaki,
On May 16, 2022, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> The contradiction I see is that:
> * Emacs runs on Windows. Instructions and reasons are stated clearly (as you
> quoted)
> * Guix OS technically runs on Linux (not just LibreLinux). However,
> it is not "advertised" (the verb seemingl
I mentioned something similar in a Guix mailing list but my opinion is this,
quoting what I heard from someone else:
Ideas divide us but necessity unites us.
If Free Software is indeed indispensable (which I think it is), then we do
everything to fulfill it. I understand now that there are bo
Hey Greg, I really disagree on this issue ...
It is really easy, when a user requests for help using nonfree drivers
in Guix, to warn them about the dangers. This ensures that users are
indeed informed, and would seek hardware that works well with fully free
software in the future if they care (w
On Tue, May 17 2022, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> So far, here is my own explanation of the apparent contradiction,
> based on the comments from people who kindly participated in our
> discussion:
>
> - GNU Emacs runs on Windows, a proprietary system. That's great
> because it can be used as an opportun
No, not at all, the whole point is to gather perspectives (positions, stance,
"attitudes", whatever the appropriate noun) from various existing Free Software
projects and hopefully, see the light. A comparative study, not particularly
about Guix. (Although I was originally surprised and frust
* Yasuaki Kudo [2022-05-17 16:32]:
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to follow up that I meant to ask:
>
> - Endorsing Free Software to be available on non-free systems, so as
> - long as it is understood that it is an invitation to the fully
> - Free System, not just partial - is this stance well shared
Sorry I have point this out... you see, your comments are adding examples of
how proprietary systems can be harmful... But this in no way changes the
nature of contradiction (using Emacs and Guix as convenient subjects for
comparison) I have been mentioning, the main part of my question.
-Yas
* Yasuaki Kudo [2022-05-17 16:27]:
> Hi Jean!
>
> So my original question of the seemingly different attitudes toward making it
> clear and easy for people who want to run Free on Non-Free on (or with)
> software remains, and I am excited to get more clarification!
>
> > You seem to have an op
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 1:51 PM Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> - Guix runs on Linux, the unabridged with all the proprietary bits and pieces
> for the video card, wifi and all. The same comment as above... does not
> apply? Because if it runs on unmodified Linux and people choose to do so, it
> hurts
So far, here is my own explanation of the apparent contradiction, based on the
comments from people who kindly participated in our discussion:
- GNU Emacs runs on Windows, a proprietary system. That's great because it can
be used as an opportunity to invite people to the world of Free Software.
* Yasuaki Kudo [2022-05-15 19:57]:
> Having said this, I see that GNU Emacs works on Microsoft Windows??
> How in the world is this done if the GNU's attitude is absolute zero
> tolerance of anything Proprietary?
Not only GNU Emacs works on proprietary systems, I would say that so
much of free so
Hi,
I just wanted to follow up that I meant to ask:
- Endorsing Free Software to be available on non-free systems, so as long as it
is understood that it is an invitation to the fully Free System, not just
partial - is this stance well shared among the members and participants of
FSF/GNU proj
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 2:00 AM Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
>
> If this is the case, a few more follow-up questions:
>
> - Is this attitude widely shared among the participants of FSF or GNU
> projects?
"attitude" is a very strong / loaded word, it is making me hesitate to answer
"yes or no".
there is
On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 11:38 AM Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to follow up that I meant to ask:
>
> - Endorsing Free Software to be available on non-free systems,
> so as long as it is understood that it is an invitation to the fully Free
> System, not just partial -
> is this sta
Hi Jean!
So my original question of the seemingly different attitudes toward making it
clear and easy for people who want to run Free on Non-Free on (or with)
software remains, and I am excited to get more clarification!
> You seem to have an opinion that community should talk about
> proprieta
* Yasuaki Kudo [2022-05-16 15:49]:
> Hi Andrew!
>
> > Can you elaborate on what technical knowhow is related to nonfree
> > software in Guix?
> >
> Oh this is quite simple -
> When someone installs a Guix OS, there is a high chance that vital components
> of the computer won't work (unless "wo
I agree that having Windows and macOS Emacs is weird, they should indeed
be handled differently
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On 22/05/17 09:51AM, Jean Louis replies to Yasuki Kudo:
> You seem to have an opinion that community should talk about
> proprietary software even if it is exclusively not about proprietary
> software. Why do you have that urge to enforce a subject which is
> clearly not the goal of the community?
If this is the case, a few more follow-up questions:
- Is this attitude widely shared among the participants of FSF or GNU projects?
- Are there GNU projects other than Guix, in which helping people with special
needs for their proprietary systems, by purposefully discussing and sharing the
kno
(apologies i am using a really quirky libre mail client, this might not
go as expected)
On 22/05/16 06:10PM, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> * Emacs runs on Windows. Instructions and reasons are stated clearly
> (as you quoted)
a couple months back i helped Dr Stallman review the gnu mainte
Now I think it is becoming clear that the main point of my question is indeed
this seeming contradiction:
>> * Emacs runs on Windows. Instructions and reasons are stated clearly
>> (as you quoted)
>
> Which I am indeed questioning why it is handled by GNU, too.
>
>> * Guix OS technically run
On 22/05/16 06:10PM, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> Oh this is quite simple - When someone installs a Guix OS, there is a
> high chance that vital components of the computer won't work (unless
> "work" includes severely hampered performance)
>
> And the chances are, all one needs to do to obtain the hardwar
Hi Andrew!
> Can you elaborate on what technical knowhow is related to nonfree
> software in Guix?
>
Oh this is quite simple -
When someone installs a Guix OS, there is a high chance that vital components
of the computer won't work (unless "work" includes severely hampered
performance)
And th
On 22/05/15 11:25AM, Yasuaki Kudo wrote:
> While I really like and use GNU Guix as my primary Linux OS
The term "Linux OS" is a bit confusing to me, "Linux-based OS" would
make more sense as Linux is literally a kernel :)
> the integration of 'Proprietary' (as far as I know, even the regular
> Lin
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