Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Hi folks > > I know that a lot of time has been invested on Allura, especially by > Trevor. So I feel uneasy in writing this email, but I have the > feeling that the time costraint didn't help to make the best decision > for the new issue tracker. It wasn't as much the

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > The main problem I see is that questions like the usefulness of the > documentation, scalability under duress, helpfulness of community, > design of the codebase don't really gain a reliable answer before > taking a full plunge. I was missing a clear conclusion: given tha

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Urs Liska
Am 2. September 2015 07:30:09 MESZ, schrieb Federico Bruni : >Hi folks > >I know that a lot of time has been invested on Allura, especially by >Trevor. >So I feel uneasy in writing this email, but I have the feeling that the > >time >costraint didn't help to make the best decision for the new is

Re: Allura at SF is ready

2015-09-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "josiah oberholtzer" To: "Federico Bruni" ; "Trevor Daniels" Cc: "Lilypond bug list" ; "lilypond-devel" Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 5:19 AM Subject: Re: Allura at SF is ready Hi all, Sorry for being out of touch - other obligations caught up wit

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.09.2015 um 09:33 schrieb David Kastrup: Federico Bruni writes: Hi folks I know that a lot of time has been invested on Allura, especially by Trevor. So I feel uneasy in writing this email, but I have the feeling that the time costraint didn't help to make the best decision for the new

Re: Allura at SF is ready

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:29 AM > Il giorno dom 30 ago 2015 alle 17:57, Trevor Daniels > ha scritto: >> I've not heard anything from Federico or Josiah for over a week, so >> I've no idea what state Allura at Savannah is in. I suggest we wait >> a few days for news

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 9:33, David Kastrup ha scritto: I think that on the "evaluate other alternatives" angle it would likely make more sense to go through with getting Allura up and running. As we are so close to get Allura up and running, of course it makes sense. But I was trying

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:30 AM > What if we take some time to evaluate other alternatives and in the We don't really have time, unless you don't mind having an hiatus in the historical record of the LilyPond Tracker. I do, which is why I've invested the time and ener

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 10:09, Urs Liska ha scritto: Am 2. September 2015 07:30:09 MESZ, schrieb Federico Bruni : Hi folks I know that a lot of time has been invested on Allura, especially by Trevor. So I feel uneasy in writing this email, but I have the feeling that the time costra

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Simon Albrecht wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 9:34 AM > Am 02.09.2015 um 09:33 schrieb David Kastrup: > >> I seem to remember they announced closing that down in 2016 or so. > > That’s only access via VCS – the actual data ‘will remain online for > years into the future’. Which doesn’t sou

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:15 AM > Yes, but I was thinking about using an interim solution for some months > to have some more time to evaluate the self-hosted solutions. > Sourceforge would not be the best interim solution. I think you first need to prove our DB wit

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 11:11, Trevor Daniels ha scritto: meanwhile we use Bitbucket or Github? Not Free services, I know, but at least their business model seems honest. This is on the GC FAQ covering migration to GitHub: Error "Project cannot be migrated because it has too many

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Federico Bruni" I'm not concerned about the https issue. I'm concerned about the Allura usability and the work on the API/patchy stuff which Phil started recently. I think Allura will need some time to get used to, but once we are used to it we will fin

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.09.2015 um 11:27 schrieb Federico Bruni: Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 11:11, Trevor Daniels ha scritto: meanwhile we use Bitbucket or Github? Not Free services, I know, but at least their business model seems honest. This is on the GC FAQ covering migration to GitHub: Error "Pro

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 11:41, Simon Albrecht ha scritto: I made the bitbucket repository public: https://bitbucket.org/fedelibre/lilyissues/issues?status=new&status=open ‘Access denied’ for me… I made the repository public, not the issue tracker. Now you can see it

Re: Beautify Grob_array and stop using std::vector::data() (issue 264950043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

2015-09-02 Thread benko . pal
https://codereview.appspot.com/264950043/diff/40001/lily/include/grob-array.hh File lily/include/grob-array.hh (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/264950043/diff/40001/lily/include/grob-array.hh#newcode63 lily/include/grob-array.hh:63: // Note: This method may reorder the array without affec

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:27 AM > > Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 11:11, Trevor Daniels > ha scritto: > >>> meanwhile we use Bitbucket or Github? Not Free services, I know, but at >>> least their business model seems honest. >> >> This is on the GC FAQ covering migr

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 02.09.2015 um 11:59 schrieb Federico Bruni: Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 11:41, Simon Albrecht ha scritto: I made the bitbucket repository public: https://bitbucket.org/fedelibre/lilyissues/issues?status=new&status=open ‘Access denied’ for me… I made the repository public, not

Re: Allura at SF is ready

2015-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[CCing Nacho] > Nacho has included bugs.lilypond.gnu.org as an alias on the apache > configuration and he has been asked to set this up as a DNS name. Well, `bugs.lilypond.gnu.org' apparently doesn't work. > I've not yet heard back from him, so don't know if this has been > done. It seems not

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: >> I made the bitbucket repository public: >> https://bitbucket.org/fedelibre/lilyissues/issues?status=new&status=open > > I don't see how to set up searches; is that possible? > > And we'd be limited to 5 developers, unless we pay, it seems. > Hardly opensource. More li

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 12:41, Simon Albrecht ha scritto: As you already said, the quality of the import is completely insatisfactory. Also I find the UI quite crude, with little flexibility – that’s probably what they offer with the advertised JIRA software, which may be tested free fro

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 11:46 AM > "Trevor Daniels" writes: > >> And we'd be limited to 5 developers, unless we pay, it seems. >> Hardly opensource. > > More like "hardly gratis". I've just glanced cursorily at the site but > saw no obvious advertisement of source c

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:31 AM > Finally, FWIW I have no objection to continuing to use SourceForge for issue > hosting. I realise it counts as non-free and has had issues over including > unwanted functionality in downloads, but Google ain't exactly free either, > a

Re: Allura at SF is ready

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: > [CCing Nacho] > >> Nacho has included bugs.lilypond.gnu.org as an alias on the apache >> configuration and he has been asked to set this up as a DNS name. > > Well, `bugs.lilypond.gnu.org' apparently doesn't work. > >> I've not yet heard back from him, so don't know if th

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:33 AM > At the current point of time, we aren't even on Github/Bitbucket. At > any rate, regarding "promising" solutions there is also the SFC-hosted > Kallithea https://kallithea-scm.org/> where we likely would get > more than marginal interes

Re: Allura at SF is ready

2015-09-02 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> Nacho, instead of the previously proposed alias, please use the >> better name `lilypond-bugs.gnu.org'! And please tell us as soon as >> you are done. > > Before we do 5 proposals in a row: shouldn't we rather try matching the > name of our bug reporting list and aim for bug-lilypond.gnu.org?

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 02/set/2015 13:17, Trevor Daniels ha scritto: > > > David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:33 AM > > > At the current point of time, we aren't even on Github/Bitbucket.  At > > any rate, regarding "promising" solutions there is also the SFC-hosted > > Kallithea https://kallithe

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Trevor Daniels" writes: > David Kastrup wrote Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:33 AM > >> At the current point of time, we aren't even on Github/Bitbucket. At >> any rate, regarding "promising" solutions there is also the SFC-hosted >> Kallithea https://kallithea-scm.org/> where we likely would

sharing Google Code json data dump

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi all I'd like to upload the json file (36 MB) exported from Google Code to Dropbox to make it available to Gogs developers. It may be useful for other projects: https://github.com/gogits/gogs/issues/809 AFAICS the file contains only public stuff. No email addresses (except those that are a

Re: sharing Google Code json data dump

2015-09-02 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Federico Bruni" To: "Lily-Devel List" Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:11 PM Subject: sharing Google Code json data dump Hi all I'd like to upload the json file (36 MB) exported from Google Code to Dropbox to make it available to Gogs developers. It

Re: sharing Google Code json data dump

2015-09-02 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > - Original Message - > From: "Federico Bruni" > To: "Lily-Devel List" > Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 4:11 PM > Subject: sharing Google Code json data dump > > >> Hi all >> >> I'd like to upload the json file (36 MB) exported from Google Code >> to Dropbox

Re: sharing Google Code json data dump

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 17:28, Phil Holmes ha scritto: AFAICS it's all in the public domain, so no problem. uploaded here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cqzfhm31ke3ekq/lilypond-google-code-issues.json?dl=0 ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypon

Re: thinking twice about the new issue tracker

2015-09-02 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno mer 2 set 2015 alle 12:51, Federico Bruni ha scritto: I'm running the import on github. It takes more time, even if I've been whitelisted by github team. I'm currently at: Issue: 659/4567 Let's see how it works. Now, after 6 hours, I'm at 3500/4567. A bit slow because Github API ha

Improve wording for an NR paragraph (issue 259710043 by simon.albre...@mail.de)

2015-09-02 Thread simon . albrecht
Reviewers: , Message: I came across this rather mishapen wording in NR 4.6.2 – so I changed it. Description: Improve wording for an NR paragraph The paragraph from "Avoid (or reduce)" in spacing.itely used 'for example' twice in a row. The description of the 'volta bracket' issue was unclear in

Re: Improve wording for an NR paragraph (issue 259710043 by simon.albre...@mail.de)

2015-09-02 Thread tdanielsmusic
LGTM Trevor https://codereview.appspot.com/259710043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Beautify Grob_array and stop using std::vector::data() (issue 264950043 by nine.fierce.ball...@gmail.com)

2015-09-02 Thread nine . fierce . ballads
On 2015/09/02 10:13:26, benko.pal wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/264950043/diff/40001/lily/include/grob-array.hh#newcode63 lily/include/grob-array.hh:63: // Note: This method may reorder the array without affecting the result of what does "reorder" mean in the current context? the func

Re: Improve wording for an NR paragraph (issue 259710043 by simon.albre...@mail.de)

2015-09-02 Thread nine . fierce . ballads
https://codereview.appspot.com/259710043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely File Documentation/notation/spacing.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/259710043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/spacing.itely#newcode3489 Documentation/notation/spacing.itely:3489: will take up more sp

Re: Improve wording for an NR paragraph (issue 259710043 by simon.albre...@mail.de)

2015-09-02 Thread Marc Hohl
LGTM, Marc Am 02.09.2015 um 21:26 schrieb simon.albre...@mail.de: Reviewers: , Message: I came across this rather mishapen wording in NR 4.6.2 – so I changed it. Description: Improve wording for an NR paragraph The paragraph from "Avoid (or reduce)" in spacing.itely used 'for example' twice