Re: midi2ly key and rests

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
Helge Kruse wrote: I gave the switch --key at midi2ly, but this changed the output of midi2ly in any way. Also –output has no effect to midi2ly. Another annoying thing is that all rests are silent rests. This makes it difficult to read play the music. If you send a minimally small example

[Mischa Falkenburg] STUMPED...

2006-12-27 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Can someone please help this guy? ---BeginMessage--- Hello, I've only recently found-out about LilyPond...and I'm enjoying it immensely! There are many pieces of music that I've composed over the years, and NOW finally, a way to help make it easier for others to read! To the stumped

RE: Beethoven Sonata Op31 No 3 (was Constructive Criticism and a Question)

2006-12-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
David I had a look at the bar in the Beethoven Sonata Op 31 No 3 which you mention. The way to render it correctly in LP with a '5' over the 5 notes of the second beat and a 12 over the 12 notes of the third beats is as follows (I've added the \include, a couple of braces and corrected a few

Re: [Mischa Falkenburg] STUMPED...

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
\new Voice { \set countPercentRepeats = ##t \repeat percent etc.(inserting the # of repeats here) {the notation} } So you want to add \set countPercentRepeats = ##t to your music, and then use a repeat: \repeat percent etc.(inserting the # of repeats here) {the notation} and stick the

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-27 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Saturday 23 December 2006 03:10, Frédéric Chiasson wrote: Might it be possible to use \tuplet 3:2 {x x x} for the usual operation, and if we want to have many tuplets of the same kind, to use \tuplet 3:2 { {x x x} {y y y} {z z z} } Might resolve the clarity problems. Doesn't look

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-27 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 25 December 2006 07:05, Joe Neeman wrote: On 12/21/06, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Erik Sandberg escreveu: BTW, in this case it may be good to register the fraction as its own argument type, so \tuplets and \tuplet are generic music functions, both with

Re: Constructive Criticism and a Question

2006-12-27 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Monday 25 December 2006 06:32, David Fedoruk wrote: Hello: I've been watching this discussion or debate. There are two ways to look at this problem. The first is from a programmer's point of view where the programmer is experienced with some computer languages, these days its upper level

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bonnie Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes For consistency, you probably should decide which version of English you will use, American or British, and whether you will give both versions every time or just the first time you use a term that is different in British and

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pierre Abbat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes On Sunday 24 December 2006 14:34, Manuel wrote: I'm sure you are right. My English needs you. fourth, not quarter, it should be. The duration of a note, however, is a quarter. Not in English it isn't! :-) In American, yes

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I suppose that the cleanest solution would be to post this chapter for Mac, then copy and modify it twice, to suit the needs and wants of Linuxers and Windowers respectively. Afterwards if can be decided whether to amalgamate them

Re: Hiding empty staves

2006-12-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Am 24/12/2006 um 20:30 schrieb Christopher A. LaFond: stop may not seem obvious to all. In America, we use the word period; I don't know what is used in other English speaking countries. My recommendation is Add full stops

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cameron Horsburgh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Incidentally, Manuel, one more spelling problem! The English term for 'quarter note' is 'crotchet', not 'crochet'. As your spell checker would suggest 'crochet' is an English word --- it's a form of knitting which (AFAIU)

Re: [Mischa Falkenburg] STUMPED...

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
Mischa Falkenburg wrote: Thanks Graham, that did the trick! So, am I correct in assuming that my first mistake was to have the line ...\new Voice? Yes. You already have the Voices (implicitly created inside your new Staffs). Also, in order to try and avoid any future problems, should I

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Christopher A. LaFond
Anthony W. Youngman wrote: Arghhh There is NO SUCH THING as British English. It's actually two COMPLETELY SEPARATE languages that the Americans lump together! The Saxons in England speak English. The Angles in Scotland speak Scots (a very *similar* language). The Scots (in Ireland :-)

Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Joe, I tried this but it didn't quite work: \version 2.10.0 \new ChoirStaff \relative \new Staff { \clef treble \key g \major \time 2/4 \override Score.RehearsalMark #'self-alignment-X = #RIGHT \partial 16*4 g'16 a b c d8 d16 b e8 e16 c d4 c8 c16 a b8 b16 g a8 a16 fis g4 \mark Fine \bar

Java Music Specification Language exports LilyPond now

2006-12-27 Thread Nick Didkovsky
Hello LilyPond users, We are pleased to announce a new release of JMSL, the Java Music Specification Language This release of JMSL includes the new LilyPond exporter. JMSL provides the user with a rich set of tools for making computer music. Among these is a common music notation package

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread yota moteuchi
Just for the most curious ones, this is how rhythms are taught to french children : quarter-note is called : noire (black) since it's balck half-note is called : blanche (white) since it's white full-note is called : ronde (round) since... there is no stem eight-note is called : croche (crotchet

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Yota, could you post the original French? Thank you! Manuel Am 27/12/2006 um 15:43 schrieb yota moteuchi: Just for the most curious ones, this is how rhythms are taught to french children : quarter-note is called : noire (black) since it's balck half-note is called : blanche (white) since

Re: Very Beginner's Guide

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Am 27/12/2006 um 14:12 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman: It gets worse :-) What the Americans call a full note, the English call a semi-breve (literally, a half-note) :-) Ah, but you may be wrong there: breve means short-timed, thus half-of- short, maybe even doubly-short. It is somehow

Re: Getting involved

2006-12-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On 12/27/06, Till Rettig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I see, I was quite unclear. First about this mentioned passive forms: Direkt imperative as in English sounds in German somehow unpolite, maybe indeed the active style that Han-Wen mentioned. Actually it is some kind of passive form (so you

Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
This is to invite criticism for the anacrusis part of the chapter, which I added towards the end. Manuel ( ... ) As a last thing in our little first beginners' chapter, we'll give you the tool for beginning your melodies with an anacrusis or upbeat. This is the \partial command. If

Re: Any way to turn off warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns?

2006-12-27 Thread Trevor Bača
On 11/18/06, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Unlike certain other programs, I've found that the warnings that Lily issues during parsing, interpretation and preprocessing usually matter a great deal; warnings are usually a sign either that there's a bug that needs to be reported or

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Joe, I get these error messages: 44:37: Fehler: GUILE signalisierte einen Fehler fur den hier beginnenden Ausdruck \once \override Score.RehearsalMark # break-visibility = #begin-of- line-invisible 44:38: Fehler: syntax error, unexpected STRING, expecting

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
...as well as: Unbound variable: break-visibility at the end. Manuel Am 27/12/2006 um 17:48 schrieb Joe Neeman: On 12/27/06, Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I tried this but it didn't quite work: You're nearly there -- I've just put in some more overrides to get (I hope) what

Re: Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Paul Scott
Manuel wrote: This is to invite criticism for the anacrusis part of the chapter, which I added towards the end. Manuel ( ... ) As a last thing in our little first beginners' chapter, we'll give you the tool for beginning your melodies with an anacrusis or upbeat. or pickup (common

How does staff-size relate to pixels?

2006-12-27 Thread Stewart Holmes
Hi there, I'm working on a tool-like widget to use for tweaking scores. For a given staff size, how many pixels is 1 staff-space? Cheers, Stewart ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Paul, are anacrusis upbeat pickup all commonly understood terms in english speaking countries? This is the \partial command. If you need, say, a quarter-note anacrusis, you type quarter note - asterisk - one after the commad, in this way: \partial 4*1 No need for the *1. We don't

Re: Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Paul Scott
Manuel wrote: Paul, are anacrusis upbeat pickup all commonly understood terms in english speaking countries? Yes. There are probably some musicians who are not familiar with anacrusis. Paul ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/27/06, Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe, I get these error messages: 44:37: Fehler: GUILE signalisierte einen Fehler fur den hier beginnenden Ausdruck \once \override Score.RehearsalMark # break-visibility = #begin-of-line-invisible 44:38: Fehler:

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Thank you, it is *much* better now. But I still get an error message: Warnung: Eigenschafts-Typprufung fur outside-staff-padding (backend-type?) kann nicht gefunden werden. vielleicht ein Tippfehler? Warnung: Zuweisung wird trotzdem durchgefuhrt [8][11] And the words do appear too close

Re: Absolute Beginners

2006-12-27 Thread Daniel Tonda Castillo
Pierre Abbat wrote: On Monday 25 December 2006 10:36, Geoff Horton wrote: It would be better to call them brackets or braces consistently, rather than switching. The curly ones {} are braces. The square ones [] are brackets. Greater-than and less-than signs, when used to enclose

The markup functions don't work with changed fonts

2006-12-27 Thread Frédéric Chiasson
Hello, Using : LilyPond 2.11.4, Mac OS X 10.4.8 I think I have found a bug. When using changed fonts with the function make-pango-font-tree, the functions \italic and \bold don't work anymore. What do you think? Frédéric The input code : \version 2.11.4 \paper{ #(define fonts

Collisions and warning message

2006-12-27 Thread Daniel Tonda Castillo
Greetings to all: I get a warning when compiling a piece of music: Ignoring grob for slur. avoid-slur not set? What does this mean? I shortened the example and also found out that there are a bunch of collisions that appear when using fingerings and string numbers. Just for the purpose of

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/27/06, Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it is *much* better now. But I still get an error message: Warnung: Eigenschafts-Typprufung fur outside-staff-padding (backend-type?) kann nicht gefunden werden. vielleicht ein Tippfehler? Warnung: Zuweisung wird trotzdem durchgefuhrt

Re: How does staff-size relate to pixels?

2006-12-27 Thread Bertalan Fodor
In the next version of LilyPondTool (to be released until Sunday) there will be a visual tweaking tool. There I use the following (magnification is 100 for 100% IIRC): public static final double STAFFSIZEFACTOR = 3.5; public static final double STAFFSIZEBIAS = 3; public static double

Re: Has anyone extended \include?

2006-12-27 Thread Rick Hansen (aka RickH)
Eduardo Vieira-3 wrote: Citando Rick Hansen (aka RickH) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you have done this can you share it or sell it to me? (please dont suggest m4, I gave up on that monster) Thanks Hi, Rick! Yes, this preprocessor looks scary, as well as some advanced programming with

Re: lilypond on freebsd 6.1

2006-12-27 Thread Marcel van Campenhout
Karl Hammar karl at aspodata.se writes: After installing lilypond 2.10.5 freebsd-x86 I get this, /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 :shared object lidm.so.2 not found required by lilypond. Are you sure it said lidm and not libm? What can I do next to get it working? I would try ldd,

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Paul Scott
Joe Neeman wrote: On 12/27/06, *Manuel* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it is *much* better now. But I still get an error message: Warnung: Eigenschafts-Typprufung fur outside-staff-padding (backend-type?) kann nicht gefunden werden. vielleicht ein

Re: command line lilypond, midi to stdout

2006-12-27 Thread Bob Harris
I wrote: I was hoping to combine lilypond with this on the command line like this: cat mysong.ly | lilypond - | velchanger | mysong.midi Anybody have any ideas how I can accomplish that in a single command? My cycle is edit,convert-to-midi,listen-in-garage-band, and I'm trying to get it down

Absolute Beginners' guide in Spanish

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Daniel Tonda Castillo is volunteering to translate the Beginners' guide into Spanish. I'm writing this with his permission. So, Spanish speakers: rejoice! ¡Ándale y métele y dale nomás! Manuel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

RE: Polyphony doubleslurs to chord

2006-12-27 Thread Trevor Daniels
Ezequiel Slurs operate only within a single Voice context, whereas one of your slurs would need to operate across two different Voices - Voice 1 before the \\ and Voice 2 after the \\ - in the way you have written it. You can achieve the double slur which I think you want by moving the 'c' from

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Joe Neeman
On 12/27/06, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Neeman wrote: Ah, sorry. outside-staff-padding is a new feature in 2.11. In 2.10, change it to padding (and maybe boost the value up to 3 or so). Could that anything to do with why my Scheme definitions containing: #{ \once \override

Re: lilypond on freebsd 6.1

2006-12-27 Thread Marcel Campenhout
Thank you very much. Did as you wrote and it works perfectley. regards Marcel. 2006/12/27, Kim Shrier [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Dec 27, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Marcel Campenhout wrote: After installing lilypond 2.10.5 freebsd-x86 I get this, /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 :shared object lidm.so.2 not

Beginners' Guide for Absolute beginners - Spanish

2006-12-27 Thread Daniel Tonda Castillo
Greetings! ¡I've been following up on the absolute beginnner thread and am thrilled about it! Several items: the guide is set from MacOS, which opens the door for an adaptation for other OS'es and then there's the language thing. If we translate the guide to spanish (for example), then there

Chordal polyphony - suggestion

2006-12-27 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, I'm a pianist, and in piano music, itš quite usual that polyphony is occasional - in many times, I need say that one note is hanging over several other notes in the same hand. What's the difference between my proposed chordal polyphony and the way polyphony is now implemented in

Correction - Chordal polyphony - suggestion

2006-12-27 Thread Tomas Valusek
Hello, a little typo occured in my snippet - correct is: \relative cˇˇ { \time 3/4 c8 a~ a4 \\ f8 f~ f4 } Tomas Valusek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Paul, I have now changed this part. What do you think? ( ... ) And last but not least in our little first beginners' chapter, we'll give you the tool for beginning your melodies with an anacrusis, also known as upbeat or pickup. This is the \partial command. If you need, say, an

\score blocks in included files

2006-12-27 Thread gnomino
Hello, I'm typesetting instrumental music, and am trying to produce one file for each instrument, and one file for the conductor's score (for which the input file includes all the other input files). I put the music for each instrument into a separate file, and intend to run lilypond on each

Collisions and warning message

2006-12-27 Thread Daniel Tonda Castillo
Greetings to all: I get a warning when compiling a piece of music: Ignoring grob for slur. avoid-slur not set? What does this mean? I shortened the example and also found out that there are a bunch of collisions that appear when using fingerings and string numbers. Just for the purpose of

Absolute Spanish Beginners

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Anthony, Daniel Tonda has just began translating the first chapter into Spanish, but he needs some help with Linux, which I can't provide. He says things about OpenOffice and ooLilyPond that I don't understand. Coud you perhaps give him some hints? Manuel

Absolute Spanish Beginners

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Pierre, I just wrote to Anthony about this, now I remember that you are a Linuxer. There is now a Spanish translation of the beginner's guide's first chapter. Daniel is doing that, but I can't help him with his Linux needs. So I thought perhaps you might drop him some hints to get him

Re: Da Capo al Fine

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Joe, Yes! Now it worked just fine - thanks. Manuel Am 27/12/2006 um 21:06 schrieb Joe Neeman: On 12/27/06, Manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, it is *much* better now. But I still get an error message: Warnung: Eigenschafts-Typprufung fur outside-staff-padding (backend-type?)

Re: Absolute Beginners

2006-12-27 Thread John Mandereau
Le mercredi 27 décembre 2006 à 17:13 +0100, Manuel a écrit : Graham, I think the present tutorial is an excellent piece of work as it is, only unclear in certain parts for beginners like me. It looks like it was made by people with deep and systematic knowledge of the matter but less

Unequal, changing time signatures in parts

2006-12-27 Thread Erik
Hello, I have a manuscript from my organ teacher I'm attempting to transcribe. So far, so good, but the beginning of one composition has me stumped, despite looking for hints in the archive, snipits, and documentation. The piece begins with a somewhat unmeasured section; the bass is a slightly

Re: brackets vs braces (was Very Absolute Beginner. . .)

2006-12-27 Thread Tim Reeves
In over 40 years with computers I have never seen or heard that term. I use the term I learned angle brackets. I don't recommend using brokets without defining it. Paul Scott I've never seen the term broket either, though physicists and mathematicians use the term bra-ket in connection with

Re: Absolute Beginners - Anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Paul Scott
Manuel wrote: Paul, I have now changed this part. What do you think? That all seems great! You might consider adding to the following the explanation about the reversal of the numbers from the way we normally think, e.g. 16*5 instead of 5*16 (or 5/16). (insert graphic here) There is no

Absolute Beginners - Chapter One

2006-12-27 Thread Manuel
Dear LilyPonders, here is the whole first chapter one more time, with all latest corrections and suggestions incorporated. Further criticism is nevertheless encouraged. Manuel LilyPond's Beginners Guide for the Absolute Beginner (Mac OS X version) Chapter One. Open a new

Re: anacrusis

2006-12-27 Thread Tim Reeves
Manuel wrote: Paul, are anacrusis upbeat pickup all commonly understood terms in english speaking countries? FWIW, as an American musician, I've never come across anacrusis, but I'm not a professional musician or a composer. Tim Reeves

Re: Collisions and warning message

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
Daniel Tonda Castillo wrote: Ignoring grob for slur. avoid-slur not set? What does this mean? You may safely ignore it for now. If you're interested in fixing it (can be done with no programming skills, just a text editor, diff, and a bit of time) let me know. It's on my list of odd jobs

Re: Unequal, changing time signatures in parts

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
Erik wrote: I've looked at staff measure length and the arguments of \time, but can't seem to find a way to affect one staff without messing up the other. Have you looking in the index for polymetric scores? Have you looked at the advanced notation chapter of the manual and read 8.4.1

Re: \score blocks in included files

2006-12-27 Thread Graham Percival
gnomino wrote: \score block, but is there any easier way to do what I'm trying to do? Surely it's not uncommon to want to produce multiple files for instrumental scores? Or am I just not doing it the right way? Don't stick a \score in the individual instrument parts. See D.3.2 String quartet