Re: my favorite bug :-)

2015-05-01 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 01.05.2015 (14:16), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > For the curious people, here's `lines.pdf' if ghostscript erronously > processes its own `lines.ps' demo file. Pretty! Have you tried to play it? e -- To be a kind of moral Unix, he touched the hem of Nature's shift. -- Shelley ___

Re: Limits of algorithmic typesetting (was: Re: mutopia's shortcomings)

2015-04-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 24.04.2015 (14:12), tyronicus wrote: > Simon Albrecht-2 wrote > > I should’ve written “I believe that nothing as beautiful/good as this > > will ever be engraved by a machine” then, since basically it is my > > belief. Maybe I exaggerated a little :-) > > And you may believe differently of cou

Re: What is the problem with "\relative"? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-23 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 23.04.2015 (19:40), Richard Shann wrote: > Well, if you set up that mapping for Denemo you could get LilyPond's > beautiful typesetting too :) The last time I tried, it wasn't possible in denemo, I think because the keyboard shortcuts were tied to specific octaves, or something like that. I've

Re: What is the problem with "\relative"? (Was: Do we really offer the future?)

2015-04-23 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 23.04.2015 (10:04), H. S. Teoh wrote: > Besides, only powers of 2 are valid for durations, which wastes all the > other numbers in between. Unfortunately I don't have a good idea on how > to write durations without using digits either. I started on a vim script to remap the keyboard as foll

Re: Setting entire document fonts

2014-10-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:10:34 -0700 (PDT) tisimst wrote: > Internally, when you call set-global-staff-size, it resets the text fonts. > Thus, if you want to use a different staff size, that must go PRIOR to where > you define the fonts. Kinda weird, I know, but that's how it works. ... and one o

Re: Tilde causes error message: "unrecognized string, not in text script or \lyricmode"

2014-10-12 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 13-10-2014 02:02, Mark Stephen Mrotek wrote: Eyolf, Your snippet compiles without error message for me. I am using Lilypond under Windows. Which version do you use? I notice that a space separates the two "e" from their "~." The space is not between the two "b" and theirs. I forgot to add t

Tilde causes error message: "unrecognized string, not in text script or \lyricmode"

2014-10-12 Thread Eyolf Østrem
If I try to run the following (either directly or as part of a score): \relative c' { \key e \minor \time 4/4 r4 r8 e8 e fis g4 fis fis8 fis fis e dis e ~ e4 r8 e8 e fis g4 a a8 a a g a b~ b4 r8 b b b b4 c c8 c c b a b~ b4 r8 b8 b a g4 fis fis8 fis fis e dis e ~ e4 r8 } I get the error message

Re: Margins

2009-04-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 17.04.2009 (20:26), Arvid Grøtting wrote: > I have a truly marvellous proof of why, which this margin is too > narrow to contain. Post of the year :) Eyolf -- Love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself. -- Saint Exupery __

Re: Writing psalms

2009-01-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.01.2009 (11:11), Alberto Simões wrote: > Hello > > I am transcribing a music with psamls. > > What this mean: there is a standard music portion, with a correct time > signature, but there is a portion where the singer will say a lot of > words for each note, and these specific bars have dif

Re: avoid slur help

2008-12-26 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 26.12.2008 (15:06), Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > > If so then I'd just use d!4. instead. > > No, it was common practice to put accidentals above notes in older times. > Sometimes these were meant to be optional, sometimes they were cautinary > accidentals. In any case, if you try to be close t

Re: question about transposing an interval of a 4th

2008-12-23 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 22.12.2008 (12:03), Graham Percival wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 06:21:56PM +0100, Eyolf ?strem wrote: > > 1. Make no mistake about it: using LilyPond IS to be a programmer, to a > > greater or lesser extent. And even though the plain an simple sheets with a > > melody line and a title "just

Re: question about transposing an interval of a 4th

2008-12-22 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 22.12.2008 (17:37), John Mandereau wrote: > Le lundi 22 décembre 2008 à 15:14 +0100, James E. Bailey a écrit : > > Am 22.12.2008 um 14:04 schrieb John Mandereau: > > > Indeed: there is currently no thing in all LilyPond documentation that > > > introduces Scheme programming for non-programmers.

Re: Notation Reference typo

2008-12-16 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 16.12.2008 (05:14), Graham Percival wrote: > > Yes, lilypond can read strings just fine without the #, but as a > matter of doc policy, we're supposed to use the # everywhere for > scheme arguments. Ugly, ugly. This is one of my main gripes with LP, this damned freedom of choice which creeps i

Re: Just chords and lyrics.

2008-11-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 25.11.2008 (20:56), Johan Vromans wrote: > Try http://chordii.sourceforge.net . Hey, that looks nice! Another approach, for which I'm partly but indirectly responsible, is Seal (http://www.math.tu-dresden.de/~kuettler/seal/), which doesn't have much to do with the original request, but which m

Re: Ubuntu 8.04 and Lilypond

2008-11-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 25.11.2008 (16:54), Ronald van Eunen wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed Lilypond on a Windows Xp based computer. > Just for trying, music notation used to be my only reason for keeping Windows. > But now that I've found Lilypond, I want to install it on my Ubuntu laptop. > It seems to install (v

Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics

2008-11-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 25.11.2008 (05:46), Till wrote: > > But this is just a workaround, not a solution. It has been stated many times > that the spacing is not really working for ancient: it is too much built on > the assumption that a note takes space according to its duration and not > only according to its real

Re: How to make note spacing disregard lyrics

2008-11-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 25.11.2008 (16:26), Trevor Daniels wrote: > Eyolf > > Does this do what you want? I'm not sure what it is you want to do, so > this may be wide of the mark. The quotes make a phrase into one big > syllable which can then be placed by specifying its musical length. The > notes are spaced ou

How to make note spacing disregard lyrics

2008-11-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
What would be the setting to let notes be spaced without regard for the corresponding lyrics? E.g. to let two eighth notes be on the same distance from each other whether the first note has "mum" or "if". I've played around with removing engravers and setting properties, but I haven't found anythin

Re: Quick-insert mode for vim -- work in progress

2008-11-21 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 21.11.2008 (21:00), Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Then for sure I will include your layout as an option. ... and an option to customize the layout, I assume? e -- At Microsoft, quality is job 1.1 - Use Linux! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-use

Re: Quick-insert mode for vim -- work in progress

2008-11-21 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 21.11.2008 (18:50), Nicolas Sceaux wrote: > I'm using the keyboard mapping suggested by a user and described here: > That's very close to my layout. The arrangement of the pitch keys is a little different, but the principle is the same.

Re: Quick-insert mode for vim -- work in progress

2008-11-21 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 21.11.2008 (14:34), Bertalan Fodor wrote: > Also there is a quick insert mode work in progress for jEdit / > LilyPondTool. That's the second reason why I found out I had to make something myself (third, actually: after my sound contempt for emacs, and the desire to do some learning-by-doing): I

Quick-insert mode for vim -- work in progress

2008-11-20 Thread Eyolf Østrem
The most useful and simple tool I've had the pleasure to work on lilypond files with, is Nicolas Sceaux's lyqi mode (lilypond quick insert). There is only one thing wrong with it: it's for emacs. I therefore decided to make my own version of it for vim. I also decided to do it mostly in python and

Re: problems with learning lilypond

2008-11-20 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 20.11.2008 (09:49), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had the same problem. Then I started to develop LilyPondTool for jEdit. > Using that I managed to understand LilyPond much better. Talking of which: when will there be a new version? :) Eyolf -- You're all clear now, kid. Now blow this thing

Re: No time signature?

2008-11-17 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 17.11.2008 (19:49), Derek Schmidt wrote: > Graham, > > I did briefly look at that chapter. What I really need to know is: > will it take away any bar lines? Or at least let me decide where to > put them? > > I actually don't want the Gregorian style (or, at least, that's not > what I'm working

Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.11.2008 (16:20), Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > On 11/14/08 2:27 PM, "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree -- are you sure the top line isn't from Finale or > > something? It looks incredibly bad. WTF is up with the gap > > between the sixteenth and eighth in the second bar fr

Re: Automatic indentation in Vim

2008-11-13 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 13.11.2008 (22:03), Martin Tarenskeen wrote: > Hi Lilyponders, > > Any Vim users here ? I'm using Vim for editing Lilypond files on a Linux > Fedora 9 system. I have syntax highlighting, which is great. How do I > enable automatic indentation to make things even easier ? set autoindent set

Re: adding rests automatically

2008-10-11 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 11.10.2008 (11:01), Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > You can read about music functions in the documentation. See the notation > reference for 2.11, section 6. Music functions. The paradigm in the beginning is confusing: function = #(define-music-function (parser location var1 var2... )

Re: rolled chords

2008-10-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 10.10.2008 (11:11), Danny Sosa wrote: > First of all... thanks to James for his help with mBreak, the magic words > were "outside of any music block". I was trying to define mbreak inside the > {}. > Does anyone know how to write rolled chords in Lilypond? The sign in the picture is an arpeggi

Re: Notating recitative

2008-10-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 10.10.2008 (16:32), Ari Torhamo wrote: > I don't know how to get the two vertical lines before and after the > note/chord that defines the pitches on the recitative section. Is there > some command/marking I can attach to a note in the chord so that all > lines would be automatically drawn from

Re: unusual Alto Clef

2008-10-09 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 09.10.2008 (18:07), David Bobroff wrote: > I wondered the same thing. There is yet another style of C clef. I've seen > this other style in French music. It is a more boxy style that is somewhere > in-between the modern 'B' type C clef and the "French" style 'K' type. > There is also anot

Re: unusual Alto Clef

2008-10-09 Thread Eyolf Østrem
I suppose this thread brings up the issue of styles: since the mentioned clef is not really a new SIGN just a different GLYPH, are there other such signs that we want? What about the "Fake book" style (a more hand-written'ish style)? Or, perhaps more pertinent, since it's already half there: a comp

Elision mark glyph (was: unusual Alto Clef)

2008-10-09 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 09.10.2008 (16:51), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > Well, of course, but the idea is not to `trace' such a glyph but to > generate it, using mathematical rules, in particular to make it > optically fit to different sizes, similar to the other feta glyphs. While we're on this subject: there's another qu

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-01 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 02.10.2008 (07:18), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > Not only is texinfo the worst beast I've ever worked > > with, > > You are exaggerating. The LaTeX kernel stuff is worse IMHO. bibtex also comes to mind. But luckily, I've never had to work in any of those directly. Eyolf -- "Why are we impo

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-01 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 01.10.2008 (21:24), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > > > The only possibility to customize the look of the PDF is to modify > > > texinfo.tex. > > > > Ah, I see. Well, there *is* good news for Eyolf: any modifications > > he makes can be added to the official docs instantly. > > Mhmm. texinfo.tex is

Re: WANTED: Design for documentation (Photoshop power users!)

2008-10-01 Thread Eyolf Østrem
The recent changes to the html/css are really a significant improvement to the web-based documentation. Kudos to all! But what about the pdf version? I guess, sine it's so much raw tex, changing it may be more troublesome (at least the attempts I made failed), but it would really be good, either

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-28 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.02.2008 (11:37), Anh Hai Trinh wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:04:35 -0500, Kieren MacMillan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi Eyolf, >> >>> Or one might turn the argument around and say that the melody is indeed >>> trans-posed -- placed somewhere else, whereas the negative associations

Re: GDP: What term do you use?

2008-02-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 17.02.2008 (11:41), Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2008/2/17, David Fedoruk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Octave transposition seems a confusing, since transposition in music > > usually implies that the passage is to be played in a different key. > > Octave displacement does not change the key. Or

Re: Volunteering with LilyPond

2008-01-07 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 07.01.2008 (12:14), Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > >> I don't find the \overrides very hard to understand; it's one of the >> very first thing I knew how to achieve in LilyPond (Bertalan's plugin >> LilyPondTool helped me a lot to understand it, though). >> > Well, actually it was wha

Re: Leaving: "I can't help"

2008-01-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 06.01.2008 (12:52), Graham Percival wrote: > It's been about a month since an update from you. Ten days, to be exact :) > Besides, did you _really_ want to be the only person working on > the content? Of course not! I just reacted to the "zero" part. eyolf -- Who dat who say "who dat" wh

Re: Volunteering with LilyPond

2008-01-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 06.01.2008 (14:21), Reilly wrote: > Eyolf, > > On Jan 6, 2008, at 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Perhaps I misunderstand the purpose of Graham's example question. It's easy: the purpose of ALL of Graham's examples is that THIS TAKES RESOURCES and no matter how good the idea is, someone

Re: Volunteering with LilyPond

2008-01-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 06.01.2008 (17:15), Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2008/1/6, Eyolf Østrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I'd love to be able to write > > \rehearsalmarks{alphabetic} or \setlenght{betweensystemspace}{2em} if > > someone writes a package that includes it. > >

Re: Volunteering with LilyPond

2008-01-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 06.01.2008 (09:51), Reilly wrote: > No offense to everyone who has worked on the documentation for Lilypond, but > the documentation is the weakest component of the package. The index often > lacks entries for my questions. The entries more often than not, do not > address my problems. The c

Re: Leaving: "I can't help"

2008-01-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 05.01.2008 (22:49), Graham Percival wrote: > On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 09:50:01 -0500 > Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm a professional composer. > > I use Lilypond (nearly) every day. > > I don't actively (i.e., visibly) contribute to Lilypond code or > > documentation... and m

Re: Instrumental Group Names in Score

2008-01-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.01.2008 (13:50), Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Graham, >> And you don't need explanations. > > I disagree! Me too. For the reasons Kieren gives, and - >> Do normal LaTeX users ever look at the details of packages? > > I do... but then again, I'm not "normal". - the follow-up question: ARE t

Re: Leaving

2008-01-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 01.01.2008 (02:52), Graham Percival wrote: > With the end of 2007, I am announcing my intention to leave > LilyPond. Many thanks for all your hard work. Much appreciated. So who's now going to say "can't be done"? :) Eyolf -- Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Env

Re: Tie across triplet boundary

2007-12-30 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 29.12.2007 (23:17), Michael Nelson wrote: > Hi guys. I'm a new user of Lilypond. I'm notating an old (out of copyright) > edition of Bach's Invention 1. I was happy to get through the first 5 bars > with remarkably few problems. But I have hit a snag in bar 6. See the > snapshot of the o

Re: macro for instrument changes

2007-12-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.12.2007 (16:40), Stefan Thomas wrote: > Dear Lilypond-users, > I am sure there is an easy way to create a macro for the layout of > the two markup-commands in the below quoted example: > > \relative c' { > c1^\markup {\bold \box "Englischhorn" } > c1^\markup {\bold \box "Heckelphon" } } > >

Re: Lilypond for serial music?

2007-11-30 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 30.11.2007 (11:24), Trevor Bača wrote: > Hi Andrea and Miguel and Eyolf and everybody, > The initial efforts were > all implemented in C ... major or minor? :) > So (lack of) robustness drove me away from C What's more robust than a C major chord? Sorry for joking -- thanks for your story.

Re: hang --"going backwards in time; " "insane spring

2007-11-28 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.11.2007 (20:10), Trevor Bača wrote: > > Oh, Eyolf, what a gem. Thanks so much for the beautiful reference. My pleasure. Honestly -- if you knew how rarely it happens that people ask for these things... and then even enjoy the answer..! :) eyolf -- Time does not count itself. You have o

Lilypond for serial music?

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
The thread about strange meters made me wonder: have any of you lilypudlians used LP to write serial music? It would seem to be an ideal combination: make a variable and expose it to different output parameters. I assume that with some scheme code, a sequence of pitches could be translated into oth

Re: hang --"going backwards in time; " "insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.11.2007 (21:48), Eyolf Oestrem wrote: > subsuperpartiens: same as the former, only upside down: > supersexcupartiensseptima=7:13 That should of course have been SUBsupersexcupartiensseptima... how stupid of me... Eyolf -- No discipline is ever requisite to force attendance upon lectur

Re: hang --"going backwards in time; " "insane spring

2007-11-27 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 27.11.2007 (13:44), Trevor Bača wrote: > I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory anyway) > to know if the Medieval invetors of "duplum" and "triplum" and "perfectus" > and "imperfectus" and the like ever touched on the topic ... they'd make a > good source to steal fr

Re: \markup in manual volta endings

2007-11-26 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 26.11.2007 (07:03), Risto Vääräniemi wrote: > > Another thing. The user manual section "Manual repeat commands" states that > the repeatCommands accepts markup text. This does not seem to be valid as > Paul Scott already pointed out. The statement is present also in the GDP. If > the markup tex

Re: once again with a header, tie into polyphony question

2007-11-21 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 21.11.2007 (13:58), Rune Zedeler wrote: > Ole Schmidt skrev: > > > I want to have both of the first two notes tied -the d and the f-sharp. How > > do I achieve > > that? Another possibility is to fake it by letting a stemless (i.e. transparent stem) in one voice be merged with that of anoth

Re: Creating a nice formatted Chords + Lyrics layout for guitar players

2007-11-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 19.11.2007 (02:24), Thomas Bonte wrote: > > Hi eyolf, > > It is indeed already discussed before, but without proper results. > > The reason why we use lilypond is because I want to use the transpose > functionality, in order to transpose several keys in one time using a little > script. So, I

Re: Creating a nice formatted Chords + Lyrics layout for guitar players

2007-11-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 19.11.2007 (00:16), Thomas Bonte wrote: > > I'm trying to create a nice Chords + Lyrics layout, formatted in the same way > as you may see on the many websites offering ascii chords and lyrics. I seem to remember that this was discussed some time before -- you may search the list archive. Wha

Re: Dodgy dotted notes

2007-11-16 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 17.11.2007 (01:27), Ossie Wilson wrote: > I am using Version 2.8.6 on Windows 98. > Clementi Sonata op.7 no.3 has some bars with dotted quaver followed by demi- > semi-quavers and then other notes which can give bar lengths varying from the > time sig by 1 to 2 demi-semi-quavers. Manual typeset

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.11.2007 (16:19), Graham Percival wrote: > > At the very least, I want it clear which sentence refer to the Notation > Reference, and which sentences refer to the other parts of the docs. Agreed. > ... I _really_ think this is completely unnecessary, though. And if you > want to add fu

Re: GDP: chattiness in @seealso

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 14.11.2007 (16:18), Graham Percival wrote: > I think we should have a consistent format for the NR; which one do > people prefer? > I have a slight preference against #2 (sentences everywhere), since IMO I know you have, and you know this is the one I prefer. Giving a hint at WHY one shoul

Re: GDP: keep separate pdf files?

2007-11-15 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 15.11.2007 (07:34), Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > > Since the GDP docs are spread over the LM, NR, AU, and snippets -- not > > to mention MG and IR -- what about making a tarball / zip which > > contained all these manuals, and removing the download links for > > individu

Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 10.11.2007 (06:17), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > > Slight correction: pdf readers do like links -- internal ones -- it's a > > Good Thing. Having unneccessary divisions into separate documents which > > then cannot be linked, is a Bad Thing. >

Re: GDP: NR Specification

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 08.11.2007 (15:44), Graham Percival wrote: > Based on the recent discussions, what should change in the written policy? I'd say: the following sentence: > However, they should be familiar with the material in the Learning > Manual (particularly ``Fundamental Concepts''), so do not repeat >

Re: GDP: the snippets vs. texinfo

2007-11-10 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 09.11.2007 (21:02), Graham Percival wrote: > OK, it's finally time for the big fight! > In managing the docs, I need to weigh multiple contradictory demands. > PDF vs. HTML: pdf readers generally prefer to have consecutive > documentation, with few links. HTML readers generally prefer to hav

User survey?

2007-11-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
I was wondering: has there ever been a user survey for Lilypond users? What made me think about this is the current work on the documentation, but I suppose it might be interesting for other purposes too. - How many users are there? - how many of the users are only/primarily musicians, and how m

Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}

2007-11-05 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 04.11.2007 (01:23), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > >Sorry - my fault, I was thinking of the Program Usage, which to a large > >extent has to do with how to write code to produce a certain output (the > >LP-book part) leaving bits and pieces which no

Re: GDP: renaming Program {usage, reference}

2007-11-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.11.2007 (12:43), Valentin Villenave wrote: > 2007/11/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Quoting Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Does anybody object if I rename Program Reference to Internals > > > Reference? or maybe Tweak Reference? or... ? (renaming Program Usage

Re: Great documentation was: Re: typeset lyrics

2007-11-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 02.11.2007 (11:05), Paul Scott wrote: > I haven't needed to look at the tutorial in a while. This is great!! > Thanks to everyone improving the documentation!!! there's always room for one more to look at it, if you discover that your new enthusiasm becomes too overwhelming :) Eyolf -- R

Re: typeset lyrics

2007-11-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 02.11.2007 (16:26), Wilbert Berendsen wrote: > Op vrijdag 2 november 2007, schreef Ole Schmidt: > > There is also the << { } \\ { } >> model for polyphony, when to use > > which construction? The short answer is that this is used for single-staff polyphony, but since giving a short answer is

Re: Beginner question

2007-10-31 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 31.10.2007 (18:45), Jocke wrote: > Aha, there should be a space there, okay. :-) Thanks! But one more thing. > That underscore thing in the notation thing, I want it to be shorter. It > streches so long to other notes. For example, in this code, the underscore > between the word "och" streches t

Re: GDP: ties

2007-10-28 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 28.10.2007 (02:39), Graham Percival wrote: > Should ties go in Rhythms or Expressive marks? > Pros of 1.3.2 Curves > - it makes a nice progression from ties, slurs, phrasing slurs > - beginners are more likely to look for ties in here > Pros of 1.2.1 Writing rhythms > - ties really do effect

Re: lyrics and german hyphenation

2007-10-25 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 25.10.2007 (14:13), Werner LEMBERG wrote: > BTW, the correct way of the Neue Deutsche Rechtschreibung is Ku-ckuck > -- `ck' is treated similarly to `ch' or `sch'. Geeeze -- I thought German was a cultivated language... :-) Eyolf -- Breeding rabbits is a hare raising experience. _

Re: time signature

2007-10-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 24.10.2007 (10:25), andrew wood wrote: > Usin the time command \time 4/4 as recommended in you documentation, I do not > get the results I am after. What else should I do to make it work? That depends on what you want to do. A little more information, please. Eyolf -- The onset and the wa

Re: troubles with time change

2007-10-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 24.10.2007 (10:33), Herbert Liechti wrote: > Hello all > > I'm in troubles with a time change from 4/4 to 2/4. > >d8. c16 ~ c8 a r2| > \time 2/4 r2 \time 4/4 | > > The compiler always complains: > > sample.ly:29:32: warning: barcheck failed at: 1/2 >d8. c16 ~ c8

Re: GDP: pitches second draft

2007-10-22 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 22.10.2007 (11:56), Trevor Daniels wrote: > > I see the note on the lowest staff has now been changed to a > C, but this is the bass C, not middle C. Arrghh. Corrected in next update. Thanks. eyolf GDP helper and typo-(ir)responsible -- _/I\_o__o___/I\ l * /

Re: GDP: introducing examples

2007-10-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 19.10.2007 (14:58), Graham Percival wrote: > Mark Knoop wrote: > >Graham Percival wrote: > >>1) The text just continues directly into > >>2) The text suggests that one may do foo, > >>3) The text directs the reader to the following example: > >>4) The text forms a complete sentence. >

Re: Church Rests

2007-10-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 19.10.2007 (16:24), Francisco Vila wrote: > 2007/10/19, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > In the section on multi-measure rests the manual talks about > > "church rests", meaning the use of increasing numbers of > > little rectangles to indicate how many measures are included > > in th

Re: GDP: introducing examples

2007-10-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 19.10.2007 (16:38), Francisco Vila wrote: > 2007/10/19, Hans Aberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So how do you find the LSR?... > > You have the link into the main documentaion page > http://lilypond.org/web/documentation > and it links to http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/ ... and in the final GDP, there wi

Re: GDP: where do we discuss MIDI?

2007-10-19 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 18.10.2007 (23:45), Graham Percival wrote: > There are two options to this: No, there's only one: > 1) Gather everything about MIDI into one section (currently 4.3) and > mention everything there :-) -- He who lives without folly is less wise than he believes. __

Re: Offsetting a turn horizontally

2007-10-08 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 08.10.2007 (17:04), Mats Bengtsson wrote: > Quoting Joseph Wakeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > >It doesn't work absolutely perfectly because the skips do not contribute > >to the musical spacing---you can see the difference if instead of s4 you > >write e.g. d4. Is th

Re: On popular demand: Free Meter :-)

2007-10-06 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 06.10.2007 (16:35), Rune Zedeler wrote: > (ofcourse you could rename the \increaseBarNumber function to something > shorter - e.g. \ibn thereby getting \ibn\bar "||") Sounds like something that would be useful for arabic music :-) eyolf -- warez /weirz/ n. Widely used in cracker subcultu

Re: GDP: pitches rewrite

2007-10-05 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 05.10.2007 (11:35), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > >I'll have a look at it. > Great! The whole thing, or just certain items on the list? We can split > the tasks up, and I'd rather have Pitches done sooner rather than later. > More people wo

Re: GDP: pitches rewrite

2007-10-05 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 04.10.2007 (19:09), Graham Percival wrote: > First-come, first-serve. Let us know if you claim a task, so that nobody > else starts working on the same thing. Files in the normal places. I'll have a look at it. eyolf -- Luke blows up his first TIE fighter. Luke Skywalker: Got 'im

Re: Lilypond-book -- almost there... round III

2007-10-04 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 04.10.2007 (16:19), Graham Percival wrote: > Eyolf Østrem wrote: > >I made a last attempt, with minimal files included, which look like > >this: > I'm now going to commit the sin of jumping into a long discussion without > having read the intermediate steps (wi

Re: Lilypond-book -- almost there... round III

2007-10-04 Thread Eyolf Østrem
I made a last attempt, with minimal files included, which look like this: playground/book.tex: \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \include{out/lpb-file} \end{document} playground/lpb-file.lytex: \lilypondfile{music.ly} playground/music.ly: \version "2.10.25" \re

Re: Lilypond-book -- almost there...

2007-10-04 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 04.10.2007 (00:09), Francisco Vila wrote: > 2007/10/3, Eyolf Østrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > If I have \include{out/appendix} in the master file whole-book.tex, > > the latex compilation stops, complaining that > > > > "! I can't find

Re: GDP: new display for warnings

2007-10-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.10.2007 (17:07), Graham Percival wrote: > Hi guys, > What do you think of the new warnings in the manual? In the Learning > Manual, see > 2.1.1 Compiling a file > 2.3.1 Music expressions explained I definitely like it. I'm not sure about the word "Warning", though... makes it sound dangero

Re: Lilypond-book -- almost there...

2007-10-03 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 03.10.2007 (00:19), Francisco Vila wrote: > 2007/10/2, Eyolf Østrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > 2. Is there a way to automatize the process? E.g. in Kile, vim, or > > You can obtain a reasonable degree of automation using the 'make' > utility. Search for Marcus B

Re: Pitches rewrite draft

2007-10-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 01.10.2007 (16:16), Trevor Daniels wrote: > Some comments on Pitches > > - move Micro tones into Accidentals. > > No, too specialist. Should it be moved into Specialist > notation? Wherever it is it needs a link to Other languages. I say yes, in accordance with the general principle that ever

Lilypond-book -- almost there...

2007-10-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
I've been struggling to get lilypond-book do what I want it to do, and I think I'm almost there. Now, I have working output, my question is if there is a better way to work to get there. I want to include files with lp-examples in chapters that I \include in a main LaTeX document, fullbook.tex, s

Re: guitar chords

2007-10-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 02.10.2007 (09:57), Zoltan Kota wrote: > Hi, > > I'm newbie here. I have just started to learn lilypond. It looks very nice > (altough it needs some time to learn syntax, commands and tricks). :-) > > Is it possible to add guitar chords above a staff (accompanying guitar > chords for a vocal)?

Re: Pitches rewrite draft

2007-10-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 01.10.2007 (13:12), Graham Percival wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > >Graham wrote: > >>- move Micro tones into Accidentals. > >No, too specialist. Should it be moved into Specialist > >notation? Wherever it is it needs a link to Other languages. > I disagree with this, although I admit that I

Elision/lyric tie again

2007-10-02 Thread Eyolf Østrem
One more thing about the elision/lyric tie, which I discovered today: I generated eps files from two different but structurally identical files, in the same batch process, and one ended up at 100 kb, the other at 1.2 Mb. I couldn't understand why, but eventually, I realized that there was an elisio

Re: Canorus 0.4 released

2007-09-30 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 30.09.2007 (23:41), Matevž Jekovec wrote: > - Document recovery, if Canorus crashes. ... which it does. I've compiled and installed it, but I always get segfaults with this message: (eval): [BUG] Segmentation fault ruby 1.8.6 (2007-09-23) [i686-linux] zsh: abort canorus In fact, I don

Re: Fwd: Users' Manual

2007-09-29 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 29.09.2007 (06:07), Rick Hansen (aka RickH) wrote: > > I would buy the manual in a nice spiral book, perhaps the sales could be used > to pay developers. The cost of printing and binding the PDF at my local > office store is not cheap, and I'd much rather have the money go to the > devs. and t

Re: GDP: add "extender line" to the glossary?

2007-09-29 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 29.09.2007 (13:08), Till Rettig wrote: Graham Percival wrote: > Should we add "extender line" to the glossary? Is this a real musical > term, or a made-up lilypond term? Any vocalists want to comment? Another word that should perhaps be there, is "elision" (with whatever second word is corr

Re: GDP - Learning Manuall Songs section

2007-09-26 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 26.09.2007 (17:41), Graham Percival wrote: > Trevor Daniels wrote: > >This is rather short at > >present, and I would like to extend it. The question is, by > >how much. I'd welcome your views on the suggestions below. > >In particular, is this too long? Does this cover too > >many/too few to

Re: tuplets

2007-09-26 Thread Eyolf Østrem
> On 9/26/07, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > It's not nearly as slick as "tuplet"... but how about "rhythmic ratios"? > > The phrase sums up almost precisely what it represents, and would be > > (I imagine) VERY easily translated. I think it's good -- only reser

Re: tuplets (was: GDP for kids :)

2007-09-24 Thread Eyolf Østrem
> 2007/9/21, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Yeah, I may be spreading unsubstantiated rumours here, but the term > > seems definitely to have shown up first in English (rather than FR or > > DE) and I *think* it actually originated in an early version of the > > Finale user manual (God help us

Re: GDP: welcome, helpers!

2007-09-22 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 22.09.2007 (18:08), Graham Percival wrote: > Great! We have our first claim; Michael Rasmussen is doing Pitches. I'll have a look at simultaneous, then. eyolf -- Good men are like Martians, you hear a lot about them but you never actually see one. ___

Re: partial rearrangement done, technical problems

2007-09-22 Thread Eyolf Østrem
On 22.09.2007 (11:09), Trevor Daniels wrote: > Going off to make a cup of > coffee I asked my wife what she would suggest. > She said instantly, "Specialist topics" or > "Topics for Specialists". I could add > "Specialist Notation" or "Notation for > Specialists". Any of these any good? > I p

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