Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-29 Thread Peter Bjuhr
With the support of Janek and Franciszek I now got the compilation to work. I should add that the problem was not in the script but due to misuse from my part! Attached is a test file I just run. If you David and Gilberto (or anyone else of course) have any more test ideas for this I'll be

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-29 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com writes: With the support of Janek and Franciszek I now got the compilation to work. I should add that the problem was not in the script but due to misuse from my part! If you cut your hand with a knife by letting the handle slip, it's a misuse of the knife.

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-29 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-28 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com writes: On 09/27/2013 01:43 PM, David Kastrup wrote: I've committed a patch implementing grace autobeaming to URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3566 Hi David! I also wanted to contribute with some testing. I changed the files with your

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-28 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/28/2013 09:27 AM, David Kastrup wrote: There are only three rather glaringly obvious reasons I can think of: a) you are not running the rebuilt executable b) the rebuilt executable is in a place where it accesses the old engraver-init.ly c) you are looking at the wrong PDF file If

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-28 Thread David Kastrup
Peter Bjuhr peterbj...@gmail.com writes: On 09/28/2013 09:27 AM, David Kastrup wrote: There are only three rather glaringly obvious reasons I can think of: a) you are not running the rebuilt executable b) the rebuilt executable is in a place where it accesses the old engraver-init.ly

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-28 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/28/2013 10:30 AM, David Kastrup wrote: They are probably compiled, but that does not_install_ them. You should be able to run LilyPond from out/bin/lilypond without installing it. Yes, if I'm not totally mistaken I have the system setup so that I have the stable 2.16.2 version

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-27 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Hello Peter, I am sorry for my late reply, I have been away for the past days. About Frescobaldi, though I am very thankful for you to have implemented the automatic beams for the grace notes, I have to say I am not very fond of the

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-27 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
to be unbeamed and some beamed. Please let me know if this is of any use. Thanks a lot and take care! Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151483.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-27 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-27 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/27/2013 01:43 PM, David Kastrup wrote: I've committed a patch implementing grace autobeaming to URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3566 Hi David! I also wanted to contribute with some testing. I changed the files with your patched changes

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-26 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
of mine. Thanks again for all your help, take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151426.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-26 Thread Peter Bjuhr
problem of mine. Thanks again for all your help, take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151426.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-24 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/23/2013 10:57 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: I tried to simply replace the files as you mentioned, but unfortunately I got a series of errors and couldn't even initiate Frescobaldi. Restoring the original files worked well though, so if you have some ideas (or other experiments:) you'd

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-24 Thread Urs Liska
Am 24.09.2013 10:46, schrieb Peter Bjuhr: On 09/23/2013 10:57 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: I tried to simply replace the files as you mentioned, but unfortunately I got a series of errors and couldn't even initiate Frescobaldi. Restoring the original files worked well though, so if you have

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Hi Gilberto, About the auto-beaming for grace notes. As this mainly is about typing convenience, I got the idea to add grace notes with beaming as a quick insert in Frescobaldi. Do you use it? Anyway, I've created a group of Quick Insert buttons for grace notes and it's merged into the

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
of Frescobaldi. I am currently working with version 2.0.10. Could you please direct me to where I can download it? Thanks a lot and take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151243.html Sent from the User

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Urs Liska
where to download the newest development version of Frescobaldi. I am currently working with version 2.0.10. Could you please direct me to where I can download it? Thanks a lot and take care, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hi Urs, I use Windows 8, and unfortunately I am not familiar with Git at all. Thanks a lot for the help, Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151245.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Urs Liska
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-23 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-22 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes: I coded some thoughts about automatically beaming grace notes. Comments in code. It's not an engraver, as supposed by David, (this should be done in C++ like the others), There is no real reason that this needs to be done in C++. The main

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-22 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-21 Thread Thomas Morley
2013/9/20 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Well David, thanks for your answers and opinions. Even though I really respect your views (and you certainly know infinitely more about LilyPond and programming than I do), I still think I am right on

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-20 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Well David, thanks for your answers and opinions. Even though I really respect your views (and you certainly know infinitely more about LilyPond and programming than I do), I still think I am right on this one. I personally see the lack of

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Hi David, I do disagree with you on this one. While I do agree with you on this here grace notes has no generally fixed relation to musical stresses, I still think that it is a standard that ALL grace notes of a single note are beamed

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
to mix different note values together, that is also fine, but he might need to manually adjust one or other thing there. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151037.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Well, a single grace note upon a single note cannot be beamed since there is nothing to beam it to. Tell that to LilyPond: { c'8[] } is valid music. But I imagine you meant a single unbeamed note in among other grace notes in a complex

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
message(s)). Anyway, I really don't see much point in dragging this discussion further to be honest. Thanks for all the answers and take care! Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151051.html Sent from the User

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 07:25:01PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: But I imagine you meant a single unbeamed note in among other grace notes in a complex situation, as in the piano sonata example you sent, right? So, about it: you are

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-19 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Well David, thanks for your answers and opinions. Even though I really respect your views (and you certainly know infinitely more about LilyPond and programming than I do), I still think I am right on this one. There are currently

Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
Hello everybody, I have a question related to acciaccaturas and slashed stems. So the first one is: why when more than one note is inputed as acciaccaturas or slashed grace notes they are not automatically beamed? And why when I beam them I lose the slash? \version 2.17.26 { \relative c

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Eluze
Gilberto Agostinho wrote Hello everybody, I have a question related to acciaccaturas and slashed stems. So the first one is: why when more than one note is inputed as acciaccaturas or slashed grace notes they are not automatically beamed? And why when I beam them I lose the slash

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
with LilyPond. Gilberto -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p150995.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Peter Bjuhr
Hi Gilberto! First I will like to say that your thoughts on this seems very relevant! On 09/18/2013 06:50 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: - Also, the automatic slurs should not exist, in my opinion. Even in Mozart's music one can find examples where acciaccaturas or grace notes are not slurred,

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
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Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Peter Bjuhr
On 09/18/2013 10:38 PM, Gilberto Agostinho wrote: Also, if anyone know a way of proposing this to be implemented at some point in the next versions of LilyPond, I would love to know what do I have to do. The issue about the slash you can follow here:

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread Gilberto Agostinho
don't know if this problem was left behind or not (the original post is from 2010). It would be a pity if that is the case, since I really see this as a major drawback... -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Acciaccaturas-and-slashed-stems-tp150981p151010.html

Re: Acciaccaturas and slashed stems

2013-09-18 Thread David Kastrup
Gilberto Agostinho gilbertohasn...@gmail.com writes: Well, I would gladly add a request for automatic beaming with grace notes in the Issues List if nobody objects about it. I don't see that it makes any sense. The beaming in a grace can't be governed by the same rules or actually any rules