Re: Fine-tuning footer alignment

Hi Jean, Thanks so much for that. It works perfectly! I did see \general-align in the docs, but it didn't immediately jump out at me as what I needed. Thanks for helping me out! Cameron Horsburgh On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 at 16:22, Jean Abou Samra wrote: > \version "2.25.13" > > \header { > cop

Re: Fine-tuning footer alignment

\version "2.25.13" \header { copyright = \markup { \general-align #Y #DOWN \left-column { \line{© Cameron Horsburgh. This work is licensed under} \line{CC BY-ND 4.0. To view a copy of this license, visit } \line {https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0} } } t

Re: Fine tuning of MetronomeMark's expression

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 10:44 PM Valentin Villenave wrote: > On 6/19/20, Paolo Prete wrote: > > Is there a way, for the above metronome indication " (quarter = 120) " > of > > the above MetronomeMark to apply the same font parameters (\abs-fontsize, > > \bold etc.) specified in the \markup expre

Re: Fine tuning of MetronomeMark's expression

On 6/19/20, Paolo Prete wrote: > Is there a way, for the above metronome indication " (quarter = 120) " of > the above MetronomeMark to apply the same font parameters (\abs-fontsize, > \bold etc.) specified in the \markup expression? Well, you can always redefine a Scheme function (see the defin

Fine tuning of MetronomeMark's expression

Hello, Given: \tempo \markup {\abs-fontsize #16 \bold "Allegro" } 4 = 120 c' Is there a way, for the above metronome indication " (quarter = 120) " of the above MetronomeMark to apply the same font parameters (\abs-fontsize, \bold etc.) specified in the \markup expression? Thanks! P

New call for participation: fine-tuning script glyphs in LaTeX documents

Hi all, as said a few days ago I'm rewriting the lilyglyphs package, and it turns out that it is now significantly easier to add new commands for better coverage. I've already replaced the number of rest commands (\wholeNoteRest, \halfNoteRest etc.) by one single command \lilyRest that can e.g.

Re: Diatonic accordion score fine-tuning

Hello Harm, Thanks for your help and thanks a lot to David for supplying this useful Scheme code. I’ll use that for sure! JM > Le 31 mars 2018 à 16:16, Thomas Morley a écrit : > > 2018-03-30 18:25 GMT+02:00 Menu Jacques >: >> Hello, >> >> I’ve nearly reached my go

Re: Diatonic accordion score fine-tuning

2018-03-30 18:25 GMT+02:00 Menu Jacques : > Hello, > > I’ve nearly reached my goal. Further attempts lead me to the following, using > a GrandStaff and: > > \override GrandStaff.SpanBar.glyph-name = "|" > \override Staff.BarLine.glyph-name = "'" > > I can’t obtain a vertical short

Re: Diatonic accordion score fine-tuning

Hello, I’ve nearly reached my goal. Further attempts lead me to the following, using a GrandStaff and: \override GrandStaff.SpanBar.glyph-name = "|" \override Staff.BarLine.glyph-name = "'" I can’t obtain a vertical short line at the left and right ends of the spanner yet thoug

Diatonic accordion score fine-tuning

Hello folks, I've modified the AccordionPushSpanner example supplied by someone on this list (can't find who it was, unfortunately), giving the attached file and the score : How can I tune the settings to align the bar lines lower tips with the single staff line, and hide the dots in the repea

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi David, Thank you but this was already discussed before, in the email from Simon on 17 June and my reply on June 20. Let's just close all discussion because it started to move in circles. Regards. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 3:25 PM, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 09:45:51 (+1000)

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

On Thu 23 Jun 2016 at 09:45:51 (+1000), Harald Christiansen wrote: > I got your email and I've tried. > > In my case it either increases the space between the G and F keys within > the PianoStaff (which I don't want) > or does nothing (depending on where I place it) Well it would do. That's becau

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

2016-06-23 1:45 GMT+02:00 Harald Christiansen : > Hi Thomas, > > I got your email and I've tried. > > In my case it either increases the space between the G and F keys within the > PianoStaff (which I don't want) Well, then I completely misunderstood your request. Sorry for the noise. -Harm

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi Thomas, I got your email and I've tried. In my case it either increases the space between the G and F keys within the PianoStaff (which I don't want) or does nothing (depending on where I place it) Regards. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 8:49 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > > > Got my mail? > http://l

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

2016-06-23 0:41 GMT+02:00 Harald Christiansen : > Hi Dan, > > Not as creative as you may think. > > Essentially Lilipond as Tex is about stacking boxes with some rubber > space/bands in between. > > If you read Chapter 11 "Boxes" of TeXbook (Donald Knuth) you will understand > what I am talking abo

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi Dan, Not as creative as you may think. Essentially Lilipond as Tex is about stacking boxes with some rubber space/bands in between. If you read Chapter 11 "Boxes" of TeXbook (Donald Knuth) you will understand what I am talking about. What I did is "add a box on top of the tallest box in the

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

the fixed and flexible vertical spacing \paper variables from NR 4.1 Page layout as well as the flexible vertical spacing within systems mechanisms from NR 4.4 Vertical spacing. If you want some more fine tuning (and this seems to be your request) look into the next chapter NR 4.4.2 Explicit staff

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

On Jun 21, 2016, at 5:57 PM, Harald Christiansen wrote: > > So, I eventually ended up solving the problem by using \markup with a > two rows of blank strings attached to the E6, something like: > e^\markup { \override #'(baseline-skip . 5) \column { " " " " } } i.e. > adding an empty box with the

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

find the URL. The problem is that the skyline have nooks and protrusions and they fit into one another like cogwheels. That may be good in general but it may occasionally require manual intervention ­— AFAIK there is no proper mechanism to assist manual fine tuning. So, I eventually ended up solvin

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi Harald, > Unfortunately "\once \override NoteHead.minimum-Y-extent = #'(-20 . 0)" > gives me a horrible result: > - the note stem is extended I know, NoteHead was just an example. You did not send a minimal example, so I can't know which objects are close in your case. I've seen the stem probl

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

On Jun 16, 2016, at 8:28 PM, Harald Christiansen wrote: > > I need to add some supplemental white space between piano staff lines (to > avoid a crowded look and near clashes). Harald, I think you were on the right track with staffgroup spacing, but sometimes implementing this stuff in scores

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Thanks Simon, Unfortunately the page you are referring to, points to (hard) anchoring linked relative to page, while I want flexible/relative space anchored to the staff above, i.e. some padding. Something like the 'glue' concept in TeX, the \vspace in LaTeX. On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:27 PM, Si

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi Joram, Unfortunately "\once \override NoteHead.minimum-Y-extent = #'(-20 . 0)" gives me a horrible result: - the note stem is extended - it increases the space between the piano staves (i.e. between the G clef staff and the F staff clef) which I don't want. And yes I want to add padding betwee

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

> #(ly:set-option 'debug-skylines #t) Thanks, Simon and Harm! ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

2016-06-19 13:36 GMT+02:00 Noeck : > I could not find the setting which I suppose is similar to > \papger { annotate-spacing = ##t } > such that you can directly use the normal lilypond and see the skylines. > Maybe someone can point me to it... > > Cheers, > Joram In-file at top-level: #(ly:set-

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

On 19.06.2016 13:36, Noeck wrote: I could not find the setting which I suppose is similar to \paper { annotate-spacing = ##t } such that you can directly use the normal lilypond and see the skylines. Maybe someone can point me to it... #(ly:set-option 'debug-skylines #t) HTH, Simon __

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi Harald, while a custom positioning of one or two staves seems like a reasonable way to go, your question sounds a bit different: >> I need to add some supplemental white space between piano staff lines >> (to avoid a crowded look and near clashes). LilyPond already tries to avoid clashes and

Re: Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

On 17.06.2016 02:28, Harald Christiansen wrote: Hi, I need to add some supplemental white space between piano staff lines (to avoid a crowded look and near clashes). I looked long and hard at TFM _and_ whatever snippets I could find, but unfortunately I am still none the wiser :| The only

Custom / Fine tuning vertical space between piano staff lines

Hi, I need to add some supplemental white space between piano staff lines (to avoid a crowded look and near clashes). I looked long and hard at TFM _and_ whatever snippets I could find, but unfortunately I am still none the wiser :| The only thing that I found (and made sense to me) was the glob

Re: Fine tuning

Hello Bernhard, some more remarks from me: – Generally, I wouldn’t go for one page at any cost. I understand your wish, but it would be easier to read if the choir were on four staves. And that’s what the great 19th century complete works editions used to do. Also, your current setup throws wa

AW: Fine tuning

? Kind regards Bernhard -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: lilypond-user-bounces+bernhard.kleine=gmx@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+bernhard.kleine=gmx@gnu.org] Im Auftrag von Rutger Hofman Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Mai 2015 12:59 An: lilypond-user@gnu.org Betreff: Re: Fine tuning

Re: Fine tuning

On 05/21/2015 12:15 PM, Dr. Bernhard Kleine wrote: [snip] 1.The piece should fit to one page. Use a smaller point size: #(set-global-staff-size 17) for example. As a last resort, the number of pages can be forced in the paper block: \paper { page-count = #1 } 2.The markups Ruhig should be on

Re: Fine tuning

ior to the music. If you want to adjust the horizontal position, you can subdivide the rests; e.g.: s2. s4_"Markup" HTH -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Dr. Bernhard Kleine To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Fine tuning

Fine tuning

I have prepared the Sanctus of the Missa in C by Bruckner. There are some points that need fine tuning. 1. The piece should fit to one page. 2. The markups Ruhig should be on Top of Sanctus 3. The voisce nominator Ten. and Bass in Number 4 should be in front of the notes and

Re: fine-tuning Lyrics size

hello, On 20/10/2010 22:10, Valentin Villenave wrote: On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Alexander Kobel wrote: You can use decimal values (well, actually every real value if you really want to), and the default 'font-size for Lyrics is 1, not 0 (as would be expected). { c'4 c' c' c' } \addly

Re: fine-tuning Lyrics size

On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Alexander Kobel wrote: > You can use decimal values (well, actually every real value if you really > want to), and the default 'font-size for Lyrics is 1, not 0 (as would be > expected). > { c'4 c' c' c' } > \addlyrics { Uh la la la } > \addlyrics { \override Lyri

Re: fine-tuning Lyrics size

> sorry if I misunderstood you - the solution just seems to obvious to > imagine that you could not have found it. You can use decimal > values (well, actually every real value if you really want to), and > the default 'font-size for Lyrics is 1, not 0 (as would be > expected). Doh, I've tried t

Re: fine-tuning Lyrics size

On 2010-10-20 13:48, Werner LEMBERG wrote: Folks, using \override LyricText #'font-size = #'-1 to make the lyrics smaller is too coarse for me. Hi, Werner, sorry if I misunderstood you - the solution just seems to obvious to imagine that you could not have found it. You can use decimal

fine-tuning Lyrics size

Folks, using \override LyricText #'font-size = #'-1 to make the lyrics smaller is too coarse for me. In my particular case, there is both Italian lyrics and a German translation (using a cursive font shape), and I have to make the cursive text just a bit smaller. AFAIK, LilyPond converts

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26.09.2009, at 18:33, Torsten Anders wrote: For the record please find the final version of the code for Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond attached. Just a brief warning. This approach does not work with \afterGrace (\grace is fine). There might be other corner cases... Best Torsten

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: 1. The new accidentals are also played via midi, which is great. But not, when different accidentals are in a chord. Is there a possibilitie to change this? Yeah, you have to split it into separate contrapuntal lines. I've used a contraption of include files so

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Community, I have now defined a table for mictotones (I use the division of 12 of the whole tone, which is not 100 percent just intonation). The spacing, I guess, is ok, I only get problems, sometimes, at the beginning of a measure. I've defined for that the variable "machplatz" ("makespace",

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 27 Sep 2009, at 05:36, Graham Breed wrote: Thanks for the explanation. I recall that: LilyPond has more than one glyph-finding model. That was a problem with the key signatures, I think, which could not use those from external fonts. Lilypond has one glyph-finding model for accidentals,

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Hans Aberg wrote: Thanks for the explanation. I recall that: LilyPond has more than one glyph-finding model. That was a problem with the key signatures, I think, which could not use those from external fonts. Lilypond has one glyph-finding model for accidentals, and the hooks to allow us to

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26 Sep 2009, at 23:58, Torsten Anders wrote: Line 169 has spurious character at the end. Looks like: %% show the markup extend as box (for debugging)ß Oops. Actually, I read this char as §, but it is certainly not necessary there. Anyway, it is a comment. Do you have any problems runni

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Hans, Thank you for your careful checking of this file. On 26.09.2009, at 21:58, Hans Aberg wrote: On 26 Sep 2009, at 22:26, Torsten Anders wrote: For the record please find the final version of the code for Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond attached, ... My editor says that the en

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26 Sep 2009, at 22:26, Torsten Anders wrote: For the record please find the final version of the code for Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond attached, ... My editor says that the encoding of HE-Lily-header.ly isn't UTF-8, but Mac OS Roman. Thanks for your feedback. Do you have any trou

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Stefan, Sorry for my late reply. Stefan wrote I was able to try out the example. There is one not convincing for me: The default accidental is an natural. But I would like to use fis and ges as before. You can easily switch to the standard Lily accidental treatment where the HE accid

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: cis cis cis cis | % the sharp sign is too much left! gis' gis gis gis | % the note and the sharp sign are too much right! Well, erm, how far do we want to get into fine-tuning? OK, it looks like you only want one glyph at a

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Hans, On 26.09.2009, at 19:17, Hans Aberg wrote: On 26 Sep 2009, at 19:33, Torsten Anders wrote: For the record please find the final version of the code for Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond attached, ... My editor says that the encoding of HE-Lily-header.ly isn't UTF-8, but Mac OS

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Robin, thanks for Your very good advice! I made a success, but I'm still not totally happy. By the way, what's the problem with the font-including? It works properly, for me. I still have a problem with spacing. I guess I have these problems, because I dont understand what the lines > \overri

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26 Sep 2009, at 19:33, Torsten Anders wrote: For the record please find the final version of the code for Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond attached, ... My editor says that the encoding of HE-Lily-header.ly isn't UTF-8, but Mac OS Roman. Hans _

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 25 Sep 2009, at 13:13, Stefan Thomas wrote: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? I made some Haskell functions that compute these; I use Hugs , but perhaps somebody can translate it to Scheme code. For example, for E12276, LilyPond scale degree 4 (note

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Graham Breed wrote: > You install them wherever fonts go on your system.  That may sound vague > but, of course, it depends on your system.  I think there's a special folder > LilyPond looks in as well but I'd have to check the documentation to find > it, same as y

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 25 Sep 2009, at 08:42, Graham Breed wrote: For the code I have, pitch names are defined as: HEPitchNames = #`( (c . ,(ly:make-pitch -1 0 0)) (g . ,(ly:make-pitch -1 4 10/1023)) (edown . ,(ly:make-pitch -1 2 -75/1096)) (bflatseven . ,(ly:make-pitch -1 6 -162/247)) (d . ,(ly:make-pitch -1

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26 Sep 2009, at 11:01, Graham Breed wrote: Isn't the lookup dynamic, so one only gets a warning when it actually needs a glyph for an alteration? - But it is a good idea to define a glyph for each alteration. Yes, but we've overridden the glyph lookup to use strings from external fonts

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: I don't understand why the distance between the barline and the cis is better if it is a whole note but not, if it is a quarter note. Well, the whole note has more room because it isn't sharing the measure with any other notes. But the barline col

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Hans Aberg wrote: Isn't the lookup dynamic, so one only gets a warning when it actually needs a glyph for an alteration? - But it is a good idea to define a glyph for each alteration. Yes, but we've overridden the glyph lookup to use strings from external fonts. There's no need to define gl

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 26 Sep 2009, at 07:10, Graham Breed wrote: I always get the error message: stefansMikrotoene.ly:32:6: warning: Could not find glyph-name for alteration -162/247 That says it's a warning, not an error, so it shouldn't stop anything working. To get rid of it you have to define a valid gly

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: Ok, I've understood this now. In the meantime, I tried to make my own microtone-uitchtable. But, unfortunately, it doesn't work. I always get the error message: stefansMikrotoene.ly:32:6: warning: Could not find glyph-name for alteration -162/247 That says it's a warning,

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 25 Sep 2009, at 21:59, Stefan Thomas wrote: I've already defined some microtonal pitchnames But, unfortunately I have problems with the correct spacing. Especially I don't understand why the distance between the barline and the cis is better if it is a whole note but not, if it is a quart

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Community, I've already defined some microtonal pitchnames But, unfortunately I have problems with the correct spacing. Especially I don't understand why the distance between the barline and the cis is better if it is a whole note but not, if it is a quartenote. Here the snippet: \version "2.1

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 25 Sep 2009, at 14:44, Graham Breed wrote: what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? It's a fraction of 200 cents. So 200 * 10/1023 = 2000/1023 = 1.955... cents, which looks like a schisma. From my computations, it corresponds choosing an approximation in

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Ok, I've understood this now. In the meantime, I tried to make my own microtone-uitchtable. But, unfortunately, it doesn't work. I always get the error message: > stefansMikrotoene.ly:32:6: warning: Could not find glyph-name for > alteration -162/247 > I don't understand how to make use of the HE-

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? It's a fraction of 200 cents. So 200 * 10/1023 = 2000/1023 = 1.955... cents, which looks like a schisma. Graham ___ lilypond-user mailin

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Graham, what I don't understand: How many cents are an alteration of 10/1023? 2009/9/25 Graham Breed > Stefan Thomas wrote: > >> Dear Graham, >> absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches >> that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do it, when I

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Graham, thanks very much! It doesn't seem to be very easy for my, but I guess, I will be able to do it. 2009/9/25 Graham Breed > Stefan Thomas wrote: > >> Dear Graham, >> absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches >> that are about 15cents lower, But I have no

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do it, when I use the HE-font for the accidentals. For the code I have, pitch names are defined as: HEPitchNames = #`( (c . ,(ly:

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Graham, absolutely, I would like to define a list of notenames, for e.g. pitches that are about 15cents lower, But I have no idea how to do it, when I use the HE-font for the accidentals. Off course, I had a look in makam.ly and I found there makamGlyphs = #`((1 . "accidentals.doublesharp")

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Graham, in the meantime I found out, where I have to install the font on my kubuntu machine. That's good. I was able to try out the example. There is one not convincing for me: The default accidental is an natural. But I would like to use fis and ges as before. Are

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Graham, in the meantime I found out, where I have to install the font on my kubuntu machine. I was able to try out the example. There is one not convincing for me: The default accidental is an natural. But I would like to use fis and ges as before. Wouldnt it a possibilitie to define new pitch

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Stefan Thomas wrote: Dear Community, I know that I am a little late in this discussion. I wanted to try out theexample of Thorsten, I found at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-09/msg00205.html What I don't understand is: where do I have to have the files of the HE-font?

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Community, I know that I am a little late in this discussion. I wanted to try out theexample of Thorsten, I found at http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-09/msg00205.html What I don't understand is: where do I have to have the files of the HE-font? And, is there a final ver

Re: Fine-tuning of markup positions

Robin Bannister schrieb: MarcHohl wrote: Is there a different approach I can use? If the three-part \fill-line is so dominant, I suppose you have to cope using ordinary lines. But \concat and \with-dimensions might make this easier to twiddle: maintain total \hspace by hand. matrix

Re: Fine-tuning of markup positions

MarcHohl wrote: Is there a different approach I can use? If the three-part \fill-line is so dominant, I suppose you have to cope using ordinary lines. But \concat and \with-dimensions might make this easier to twiddle: maintain total \hspace by hand. matrix = \markup { \overrid

Fine-tuning of markup positions

x } } So far, so good; but for the symbols I use, I need some fine-tuning of the distances between b/c and h/i. In the first case, the symbols should be narrower, in the latter case, I need a small additional space between them. Inserting a negative \hspace in the first line, for example \fill-

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 12:14, Torsten Anders wrote: I can actually play HE notation on a Tonal Plexus (http://www.h-pi.com/TPX28intro.html ), slowly, but I never practise :) This, if one sticks to the key coloring, is in fact just five translated keyboard of the layout I indicated. So if imposin

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Robin, you wrote Friday, September 11, 2009 8:32 PM Trevor Daniels wrote: it seems like you're suggesting NR 5.3.4 is not correct. I was talking about the 2.12 NR. I understood its unqualified "cannot" to be the well-meaning advice: - don't waste your time trying.So I didn't. But

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Trevor Daniels wrote: it seems like you're suggesting NR 5.3.4 is not correct. I was talking about the 2.12 NR. I understood its unqualified "cannot" to be the well-meaning advice: - don't waste your time trying. So I didn't. But Mark questioned this in July, and you updated the

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Robin Bannister wrote Friday, September 11, 2009 6:15 PM Torsten Anders wrote: I really owe you something :) Well, it's Mark Polesky we both owe. Without him, all small-time Schemers like me would still be believing the very plausible explanation in (the 2.12) NR 5.3.4 of why \twea

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Torsten Anders wrote: I really owe you something :) Well, it's Mark Polesky we both owe. Without him, all small-time Schemers like me would still be believing the very plausible explanation in (the 2.12) NR 5.3.4 of why \tweak cannot be used to modify accidentals. Cheers, Robin

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Robin, Thank you very very much!! The notation is perfect now, I really owe you something :) I assume the designer of this accidental font inserted the space before each sign on purpose: with a larger distance the signs are more easy to read. I just checked: in the existing scores printed w

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Don't forget to mention this publication where the Persian microtonal accidentals were introduced, which are the only ones that are standardized (and still absent in lilypond): Vaziri, A. N., Dastur-e Tàr, Tehran, 1913. Kees - Original Message - From: Joseph Wakeling > I'm really pleas

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Torsten Anders wrote: Now, there is only a minor flaw now: the distance between a note and the related accidentals is rather big. In fact, accidentals are more close to the preceding note than the note they belong to. I'm way out of my depth here, but it looks like markup is appending spa

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 12:14, Torsten Anders wrote: [...] I tend to think that ETs and Pythagorean tuning, quarter- comma meantone, and other diatonic pitch systems would be best notated by departing from them, and then adding intermediate pitch accidentals relative that. A completely differen

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 11:45, Torsten Anders wrote: I understand you point about only 2 step sizes and your interested to extend the number of steps available. I assume this approach is particularly suitable for music that is primarily melodic (which is the case for Persian and Turkish), and if

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Hans, On 10.09.2009, at 10:13, Hans Aberg wrote: [...] I tend to think that ETs and Pythagorean tuning, quarter-comma meantone, and other diatonic pitch systems would be best notated by departing from them, and then adding intermediate pitch accidentals relative that. A completely di

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Hans, I understand you point about only 2 step sizes and your interested to extend the number of steps available. I assume this approach is particularly suitable for music that is primarily melodic (which is the case for Persian and Turkish), and if you disregard ornamental pitch inf

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 10:57, Torsten Anders wrote: On 10.09.2009, at 09:03, Hans Aberg wrote: It seems to be that that staff indicates the Pythagorean tuning, with accidentals to indicate offsets relative that. Right? This uniform structure of the Helmholtz-Ellis and Sagittal notation makes

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 10:26, Torsten Anders wrote: [Your mail does not cc to the list - added: seems relevant.] t is part of the font distribution itself at http://music.calarts.edu/~msabat/ms/pdfs/HE-font-2009.zip I also found http://www.newmusicbox.org/72/HelmholtzEllisLegend.pdf It seems to

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10.09.2009, at 09:03, Hans Aberg wrote: It seems to be that that staff indicates the Pythagorean tuning, with accidentals to indicate offsets relative that. Right? This uniform structure of the Helmholtz-Ellis and Sagittal notation makes it possible to not only notate just intonation but

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10.09.2009, at 09:03, Hans Aberg wrote: On 10 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Torsten Anders wrote: This notation is explain in detail in a paper that is part of the font distribution itself at http://music.calarts.edu/~msabat/ms/pdfs/HE-font-2009.zip I also found http://www.newmusicbox.org/72/Helmho

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 10 Sep 2009, at 01:26, Torsten Anders wrote: This notation is explain in detail in a paper that is part of the font distribution itself at http://music.calarts.edu/~msabat/ms/pdfs/HE-font-2009.zip I also found http://www.newmusicbox.org/72/HelmholtzEllisLegend.pdf It seems to be that t

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

The Ab's sound horribly out of tune, as if they were meantone G#'s. Kees - Original Message - From: Torsten Anders Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 4:27 pm Subject: Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Dear Jose

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Joseph, This notation is explain in detail in a paper that is part of the font distribution itself at http://music.calarts.edu/~msabat/ms/pdfs/HE-font-2009.zip Several composers whose work is listed at http://plainsound.org actively use this notation, including for large-scale orchestral

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Torsten Anders wrote: > Thank you very very much for your help! The output is now almost > perfect as you can see see in the two examples below. The much > improved spacing of the first example is solely due to the code you > suggested. Dear Torsten, I'm really pleased to see your work on this as

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

[sorry for resending, but the mail text was somehow partially turned into attachments ...] Dear Robin, On 09.09.2009, at 00:08, Robin Bannister wrote: Torsten Anders wrote: Lilypond does not know about multiple-sign accidentals, so I somehow have to create more horizontal space for these m

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

On 09.09.2009, at 23:21, Torsten Anders wrote: PS: I attach the source of the examples above to the next mail: mails with multiple attachments seem to be delayed by many hours... Attached are the Lilypond source files for examples of the previous mail. Best Torsten -- Torsten Anders Inter

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Dear Robin, On 09.09.2009, at 00:08, Robin Bannister wrote: Torsten Anders wrote: Lilypond does not know about multiple-sign accidentals, so I somehow have to create more horizontal space for these manually. The following code tries to adjust this spacing automatically. Thank you very very

Re: Microtonal Helmholtz-Ellis notation in Lilypond: fine-tuning

Torsten Anders wrote: Lilypond does not know about multiple-sign accidentals, so I somehow have to create more horizontal space for these manually. The following code tries to adjust this spacing automatically. But I haven't tested it with your font. %

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