Re: Sharing root mdisk with SLES 8.0

2004-04-02 Thread Post, Mark K
But that's not what the OP asked about. He asked about a shared read-only root file system. He wasn't asking about sharing the other parts of the file system. Your root file system only needs to be about 15MB, not 100MB or 1GB. Trying to share that specifically isn't worth the effort. Sharing

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2004-04-02 Thread Jim Sibley
Sorta off topic (different platform) http://news.com.com/2100-7344-5182158.html = Jim Sibley RHCT, Implementor of Linux on zSeries "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveawa

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/02/2004 at 02:58 EST, "Kern, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On an MP3000-H50, which chpid is used by the virtual QDIO nic that I define > for a virtual machine? Unless you override it with the CHPID xx option, the virtual chpid is selected from the set of chpids NOT present

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Kern, Thomas
On an MP3000-H50, which chpid is used by the virtual QDIO nic that I define for a virtual machine? I have 3 persistant LANs defined, VMLAN00, VMLAN01, VMLAN02. VMLAN00 is meant as a backbone connection between VM, OS/390, and 2 separate linux firewall servers. Each firewall server will then conne

QDIO portname relief

2004-04-02 Thread Alan Altmark
I haven't posted this in a while, and now seems like a good time to do so again. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development In November of 2003, an OSA-Express microcode update for the IBM zSeries z800 and z900 machines became available that makes the portname optional for the OSA-Ex

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Kern, Thomas
I modified the /etc/chandev.conf to be explicit about lcs0 and qeth1 to match the /etc/modules.conf aliases that are set up for eth0 -> lcs and eth1 -> qeth. After reipling, I get the same IDX TERMINATE cause code 0x22 error. This is a RHEL 3 system, but through trial and error, I know that the ch

Re: Sharing root mdisk with SLES 8.0

2004-04-02 Thread Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Daniel Jarboe wrote: > > And finally, the pain involved isnt so great, we just installed a > linux > > vm, compiled and installed the packages that we need (postgres 7.4, > apache > > 1.3.29, perl 5.8, etc), then copied the non-standard directories (etc, > > Do the "extra" soft

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/02/2004 at 12:15 EST, "Kern, Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can someone in IBM or someone with the source code for QETH, please tell me > what IDX TERMINATE and cause code 0x22 mean? Everyone has access to the source code. One of my favorite URLs is http://lxr.linux.no/source/

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/02/2004 at 12:27 EST, "Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe that the order of the cards in /etc/chandev.conf is significant. > I've always seen it coded this way: > # cat /etc/chandev.conf > qeth0,0x0f10,0x0f11,0x0f12 > add_parms,0x010,0x0f10,0x0f12,portname:LINUXSRV >

Re: Sharing root mdisk with SLES 8.0

2004-04-02 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> And finally, the pain involved isnt so great, we just installed a linux > vm, compiled and installed the packages that we need (postgres 7.4, apache > 1.3.29, perl 5.8, etc), then copied the non-standard directories (etc, Do the "extra" software packages not included in the base get compiled/ins

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Sibley
Could it be a syntax problem you have: lcs-1,0x3ad0,0x3ad1,0,3 qeth-1,0x0e04,0xe05,0x0e06,0,0 lcs1 and qeth1 without the dash. = Jim Sibley RHCT, Implementor of Linux on zSeries "Computer are useless.They can only give answers." Pablo Picasso __ Do you Yahoo

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 04/02/2004 at 11:55 CST, Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what it's worth here's the pertinent entry in my chandev.conf: > > noauto;qeth0,0x0800,0x0801,0x0802;add_parms,0x10,0x0800,0x0802,portname:GL1 > > If this is the first machine to use the Guest Lan it will be able to s

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
I thought about SCSI/FCP, but I wasn't sure if you can boot from it. But thinking about it, we're really talking about needing the driver for the root filesystem, which COULD be on FCP. Hate those maps though. Maybe the logic was to be able to replace the normal drivers with the DIAG ones? >

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Adam Thornton
On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 11:37, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote: > Using the modular driver for the disk makes sense on Intel, where there are so many > possible variations, but why bother for Z? How many different disk devices do we > have? Two? (ECKD, and FBA) Four. For local disks, DIAG also. It

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Kern, Thomas
This virtual machine is LNXRHFW. It is authorized to connect its virtual NIC E04 to guest lan VMLAN01. During these tests it is the ONLY server connecting to VMLAN01. The virtual NIC is currently defined and coupled in the PROFILE EXEC, eventually to be done in the user directory. The eventual use

Re: Sharing root mdisk with SLES 8.0

2004-04-02 Thread Alejandro Leyva Rabinovich
We are developing this. This week we have plans to take into production. Right now, the benefits we have seen justify the pain involved. We reduced the size of a linux vm from 500 mb or 1 gb to 100 mb, the time used to create a linux vm is significantly reduced too. The administration is really sim

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Using the modular driver for the disk makes sense on Intel, where there are so many possible variations, but why bother for Z? How many different disk devices do we have? Two? (ECKD, and FBA) Seems like a pointless complication, even if it's hidden from most users. > -Original Message---

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Rich Smrcina
For what it's worth here's the pertinent entry in my chandev.conf: noauto;qeth0,0x0800,0x0801,0x0802;add_parms,0x10,0x0800,0x0802,portname:GL1 If this is the first machine to use the Guest Lan it will be able to set the name, so what you use really doesn't matter. All of the other machines will

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Kern, Thomas
Swapping the order of qeth-1 and add_parms doesn't change it. cat /etc/chandev.conf chandev=noauto lcs-1,0x3ad0,0x3ad1,0,3 qeth-1,0x0e04,0xe05,0x0e06,0,0 add_parms,0x10,0x0e04,0x0e06,portname:VMLAN01 Q NIC DETAILS Adapter 0E04 Type: QDIO Name: UNASSIGNED Devices: 3 Port 0 MAC: 00-04-AC-0

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
I think that applies to both of us. :) > -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Post, Mark K > Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 12:08 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] new disk for linux (CORRECTION) > > > I think I'm getting my d

Re: new disk for linux

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Apologies from me also for getting it so wrong the first time. It was early in the morning, and my brain hadn't kicked in yet. I figured zipl had to store hard pointers to avoid reading the filesystem. I was puzzled at first about how SLES7 worked without an initrd, so I went and checked and

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Post, Mark K
I believe that the order of the cards in /etc/chandev.conf is significant. I've always seen it coded this way: # cat /etc/chandev.conf qeth0,0x0f10,0x0f11,0x0f12 add_parms,0x010,0x0f10,0x0f12,portname:LINUXSRV The "qeth" statement first, followed by the add_parms for that device. Mark Post

Re: new disk for linux

2004-04-02 Thread Post, Mark K
Well, sort of. When zipl is run, it stores pointers to the boot sector, kernel and the contents of the parmfile in a specific place on the disk. Strictly speaking, there is no access to the file system on the disk. This is why if you write over those files with new contents, your next boot is lik

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Rich Smrcina
It indicates that the portname is wrong. Verify the port name with Q LAN DETAILS. On Fri, 2004-04-02 at 11:15, Kern, Thomas wrote: > Can someone in IBM or someone with the source code for QETH, please tell me > what IDX TERMINATE and cause code 0x22 mean? > > This is a RHEL system build during th

Re: Adding QDIO guest lan to server

2004-04-02 Thread Kern, Thomas
Can someone in IBM or someone with the source code for QETH, please tell me what IDX TERMINATE and cause code 0x22 mean? This is a RHEL system build during the Taroon beta. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 ifconfig eth1 10.0.1.1 qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 ($Revision: 1.145 $/$Revision:

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Post, Mark K
I think I'm getting my distributions confused again. I think I've been arguing my point for SLES8 when it really applies to RHEL3. Sigh. Time for some more sleep than I've been allowing myself lately. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Be

Re: new disk for linux

2004-04-02 Thread Post, Mark K
I think you need to spend some time rooting around in the initrd. You'll see that the script in the initrd does the insmod of the DASD driver, _and_ specifies the device numbers to be used by it. After so many people reported problems updating their parmfile and re-running zipl but still not seei

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Jim Sibley
Ken Hall wrote: >Basically, you need an initrd if the boot-device drivers >aren't built into the kernel. (You get this choice >during the kernel configure process.) With the variety >of hardware on that platform, ifyou tried to include all >possible drivers in the actual kernel, it >would be hug

Re: OT: silly measures

2004-04-02 Thread Dave Grothe
At 09:49 AM 4/2/2004, John Campbell wrote: Here's some more trival, this time from the Ancient Burroughs 6700, which had symmetric multiprocessing a LONG time ago (and, no, I don't think trying to port Linux to such a machine would be much fun): the Processor Operator instruction "Interrupt Oth

OT: silly measures

2004-04-02 Thread John Campbell
You want silly? I spent some years on UNIVAC 1100 systems, which had a Meta-Assembler named "MASM". (Meta-Assemblers, BTW, smoke Macro Assemblers any day of the week... though, really, "C" is just a meta-assembler for the PDP-11.) Anyway, on with my story. In what was (I suspect) a response to

Re: z/VM IFL special price for Systems/ASM

2004-04-02 Thread James Melin
I keep seeing references to the new product offering, but have not actually SEEN the new product offering... so whomever made the offering, PLEASE contact me off list. Not saying we're in the market (don' know what it is) but it may be helpful to us as we're just building the infrastructure to go

Re: new disk for linux (CORRECTION)

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
It must be a sign of getting old, but about 2 minutes after I sent that previous note, I remembered that a good part of it was wrong. The DASD list comes from the boot filesystem, built by zipl from /etc/zipl.conf. The script inside the initrd that does the load uses a variable "$dasd" to pick

Re: z/VM IFL special price for Systems/ASM

2004-04-02 Thread David Boyes
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 04:54:12PM +0200, Phil Payne wrote: > >> Now that's the way to make a commercial announcement on a mailing > >> list. Well done. > _Relevant_ SPAM? I wouldn't even term Dave's note as spam. It was a useful piece of information presented factually without hype or personal a

Re: z/VM IFL special price for Systems/ASM

2004-04-02 Thread Phil Payne
>>> [.. short, hype-free, informative message on new product offering ..] >> Now that's the way to make a commercial announcement on a mailing >> list. Well done. _Relevant_ SPAM? What a novelty. What next - the co-ordinates of the Holy Grail or the Ark of the Covenant? World Peace? I, too, t

Re: z/VM IFL special price for Systems/ASM

2004-04-02 Thread Thomas David Rivers
> > On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 04:10:23PM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > > [.. short, hype-free, informative message on new product offering ..] > > Now that's the way to make a commercial announcement on a mailing > list. Well done. > > -- db > Hi David! Thanks it's always sooo hard to

OT: silly measures

2004-04-02 Thread David Boyes
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 03:38:26PM -0600, McKown, John wrote: > Is that more or less than "oodles"? I.e. how many oodles per gob? 1.414 milliparsec-barns per gob. You can look it up anywhere in the western spiral arm. (is this silly, or what?)

Re: z/VM IFL special price for Systems/ASM

2004-04-02 Thread David Boyes
On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 04:10:23PM -0500, Thomas David Rivers wrote: > [.. short, hype-free, informative message on new product offering ..] Now that's the way to make a commercial announcement on a mailing list. Well done. -- db --

Re: SuSE SP3 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 5e: 01 ( was Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize

2004-04-02 Thread Daniel Jarboe
> > for i in `rpm -qa`; do rpm -V $i; done |grep missing > rpm: only one major mode may be specified Those are backticks around rpm -qa (on my keyboard, upper left, shared by ~). ~ Daniel --- This message is the proper

Re: new disk for linux

2004-04-02 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
The kernel modules (dasd_mod.o and dasd_eckd_mod) are in the initrd, but the DASD parm is picked up from the BOOT filesystem. That's updated by running zipl, copied from /etc/zipl.conf. You don't boot from the initrd, that's mounted AFTER the kernel loads from the boot filesystem. If you need

Re: SuSE SP3 Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 5e: 01 ( was Re: Myth of the 1K blocksize

2004-04-02 Thread Gene Walters
Hi Daniel, As you can probably tell, I'm real fluent with a lot of the Linux commands, so I really appreciate your help. I tried that command, and here is what I got: rpm: only one major mode may be specified >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/01/04 09:14AM >>> > It's funny, this is the one I use to cl