Re: IP takeover with 2 different z/VMs with redhat

2012-08-30 Thread Offer Baruch
Hi, here is the data: VSWITCH info on LPAR1 (guest1) during stage 6: VSWITCH SYSTEM PVTSWTCH Type: VSWITCH Connected: 3Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER Accounting: OFF VLAN Aware Default VLAN: 0410Default Porttype: Access Native

Re: IP takeover with 2 different z/VMs with redhat

2012-08-30 Thread Offer Baruch
I am using layer 3 vswitch... On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Offer Baruch offerbar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, here is the data: VSWITCH info on LPAR1 (guest1) during stage 6: VSWITCH SYSTEM PVTSWTCH Type: VSWITCH Connected: 3Maxconn: INFINITE PERSISTENT RESTRICTEDNONROUTER

R/W CMS file system?

2012-08-30 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Hi list, Is there a read/write CMS file system in the current distros? On a SLES 11 SP2 system, I search for CMS and only find: │cmsfs │CMS Filesystem driver and uti│ │lcms │Utilities for the Little CMS │ │liblcms1 │Libraries for the Little CMS │ │liblcms1-32bit│Libraries

LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Lu GL Gao
Linux guest move its memory to target z/VM member during relocating. Then it quiesce and resume on target z/VM. How to understand quiesce? What state of linux when it is in quiesce time? Is idling? shutdown? or something? -- For

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Richard J Moore
Essentially not running from the CP dispatcher perspective. CP will be doing work to action the LGR so I assume any time attributed to the guest would be system time, but I might be inaccurate in saying that as I didn't write that part of LGR. Richard - - Richard J Moore - FIET, FBCS, CEng,

Re: R/W CMS file system?

2012-08-30 Thread Rick Troth
You want the cms-fuse driver which is in s390-utils. The original includes the cmsfs utils but is not R/W. Also, beware of an acronym collision where cms can mean content management system. That's obviously not what you want. On Aug 30, 2012 5:18 AM, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com wrote:

Re: R/W CMS file system?

2012-08-30 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Rick, You want the cms-fuse driver which is in s390-utils. D'oh - I had it all along. Thanks for the quick reply. Mike MacIsaac mikemac at-sign us.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 30 August 2012 11:43, Lu GL Gao lu...@cn.ibm.com wrote: Linux guest move its memory to target z/VM member during relocating. Then it quiesce and resume on target z/VM. How to understand quiesce? What state of linux when it is in quiesce time? Is idling? shutdown? or something? See it as

message There was an error in the repository initialization when using YaST2 Online Update option

2012-08-30 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
We are trying to update some of our Linux guests through YaST2/Online Updates and are receiving the following message: There was an error in the repository initialization This is now occurring on all our Linux guests. Is this issue on our side or Novell's side? There is not much more information

Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread McKown, John
http://www.citrix.com/lang/English/lp/lp_2328330.asp quote The survey carried out on 1000 adult americans of age 18 and more paint a disturbing picture: 54% of americans do not know what the cloud is and claim to never have used it. But, from these, 95% use it regularly for online banking,

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread John Campbell
So, does data delivery from the cloud qualify as fallout? Big Data: The Mushroom Cloud ... all kinds of privacy violations can be considered fallout. (chuckles) Some links (watch folding): http://tagteamtech.com/another-look-at-cloud-computing-from-the-new

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Shane G
And ... ?. http://gigaom.com/cloud/some-of-amazon-web-services-are-down-again/ Shane ... -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390

Re: message There was an error in the repository initialization when using YaST2 Online Update option

2012-08-30 Thread Mark Post
On 8/30/2012 at 08:58 AM, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco peabre...@pepco.com wrote: We are trying to update some of our Linux guests through YaST2/Online Updates and are receiving the following message: There was an error in the repository initialization This is now occurring on all

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Paul Dembry
A few years ago, my father asked me about cloud computing. I told him that it was the same as the old days when we used teletypes and 110 baud rubber cup modems. The equipment is smaller, lighter, and quieter but the concept is the same. Paul

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread John Campbell
Shane G wrote: And ... ?. http://gigaom.com/cloud/some-of-amazon-web-services-are-down-again/ (chuckles) Correlation, not causation. Though I hope there are no cloud hosting sites in NOLA... or, if there are, that the cloud, itself, is resilient. When a unified theory of Human Personality is

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Rohling
This doesn't surprise me - I'm not sure when we started calling data stored on servers a 'cloud' - but I cringe every time I hear it. Is this really any different then not knowing what a catalytic converter is, but driving anyway? Scott Rohling On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:39 AM, McKown, John

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Mark Pace
No, the freeze does not cause the buffers to be written to disk. It wouldn't be any different than taking a point-in-time copy of the disks. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Aria Bamdad a...@bsc.gwu.edu wrote: Just curious, could this functionality be used somehow to allow for a

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On 30 August 2012 17:11, Aria Bamdad a...@bsc.gwu.edu wrote: Just curious, could this functionality be used somehow to allow for a **consistent** disk snapshot using flashcopy for a live Linux guest? What I mean is that currently, we have to shutdown the guest, do the flashcopy and then

Re: message There was an error in the repository initialization when using YaST2 Online Update option

2012-08-30 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
This was an interesting issue. We had a local NFS repository configured and enabled to all our Linux server guests. I had no idea what was going on as this was working fine last night. I ran a: zypper update which revealed the that there was no access to the offending NFS repository. This

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Bruce Hayden
Actually, Linux on System z has a hibernate function (stop and write memory to disk.) What it doesn't have is the laptop suspend function - freeze everything and stop, but don't write to disk. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the disk

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
Reminds me of Mr Al Nino who once got a lot of phone threats because of the storms -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Aria Bamdad
True, no solution is as safe as shutdown/snapshot/restart in terms of ensuring consistency but I think it would be nice if there was some mechanism within Linux that would alert the kernel of this and would allow for a relatively consistent snapshot of the virtual machine, assuming perhaps we stop

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 08/30/2012 at 11:28 EDT, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: This doesn't surprise me - I'm not sure when we started calling data stored on servers a 'cloud' - but I cringe every time I hear it. Is this really any different then not knowing what a catalytic converter is,

Re: message There was an error in the repository initialization when using YaST2 Online Update option

2012-08-30 Thread Mark Post
On 8/30/2012 at 11:56 AM, Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco peabre...@pepco.com wrote: I was unaware that the unavailability of one repository prevents the whole process, even when the Novell?s repositories are enabled and selected. Does this make sense? Not without more details on

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread John Campbell
Y'know, about 12-13 years ago, IBM had that funky e drawn up for e-business, trying to sell a computing utility.. the next generation Universal Server Farm. Oddly enough, the utility IBM envisioned is partially implemented as the cloud... and IBM didn't get it's marque into it, did they? Way

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I don't think the disk snapshot from a freeze would be any better in terms of data integrity. You're still snapshotting a disk with things like open files - and the guest is in an unknown state processing wise. If there was a facility to restore disks and then resume processing where the guest

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Rohling
I cringe because I really have no idea what the word means any more.. I read something about CMS yesterday - 'cloud managed services'. ;-) I'm likely just not adjusting well - I admit it... I suppose I really cringe because it's a word I hear more and more from customers and always have to

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Michael MacIsaac
What it doesn't have is the laptop suspend function - freeze everything and stop, but don't write to disk. CP STOP and BEGIN? Mike MacIsaac mikemac at-sign us.ibm.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Marcy Cortes
The suspend/resume thing exists already - http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/5cb5ed706d254a8186256c71006d2e0a/57e3c8123412429186257910006ab443/$FILE/l0wadp00.pdf The CP STOP command may also be good enough. Yes, you could have lost data in open files, but this would be no

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Rohling
It depends on your approach for DR.. is a physical backup the only method? Typically, it's a hybrid .. use physical backups to restore as much as you can (hopefully enough to run linux and be able to start backup clients to restore) - and then use backup/restore clients to go to logical

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Alan Cox
On Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:16:53 -0700 Paul Dembry p...@trifox.com wrote: A few years ago, my father asked me about cloud computing. I told him that it was the same as the old days when we used teletypes and 110 baud rubber cup modems. The equipment is smaller, lighter, and quieter but the concept

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread David Boyes
Just curious, could this functionality be used somehow to allow for a **consistent** disk snapshot using flashcopy for a live Linux guest? What I mean is that currently, we have to shutdown the guest, do the flashcopy and then restart the guest. Is there a way we can tell the Linux guest to

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread David Boyes
I wonder if anyone would like to share their experiences with regards to automated shutdown/restart of linux guests for DR snapshot purposes. We recommend a combination of file-level backups run from within the virtual machines to a designated backup server that is NOT one of the application

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Aria Bamdad
-Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:47 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: LGR guest quiesce Just curious, could this functionality be used somehow to allow for a **consistent**

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread David Boyes
1-Stop running major applications/database servers, etc 2-issue a command on linux to flush buffers (sync) and put guest into frozen/sleep mode 3-Take your flashcopy outside the guest 4-issue another command on linux to resume I'm not sure how that would work... if the guest is in suspended

Re: LGR guest quiesce

2012-08-30 Thread Aria Bamdad
Just curious, could this functionality be used somehow to allow for a **consistent** disk snapshot using flashcopy for a live Linux guest? What I mean is that currently, we have to shutdown the guest, do the flashcopy and then restart the guest. Is there a way we can tell the Linux guest to

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread Gentry, Steve
I've seen similar pictures with letters 'MMH' (Miracle Happens Here) linked to said cloud. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:33 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Too true to be

Re: Too true to be funny - 51% of the surveyed Americans think that stormy weather can interfere with the functionality of the cloud.

2012-08-30 Thread McKown, John
I think the word cloud came about long before the actual implementation. I've seen diagrams where the Internet is pictured as a cloud between two other points. I think it was shown as a cloud because you couldn't tell how the data was being routed around inside it. One packet may take one path

console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Marcy Cortes
I've noticed on SLES 11 that when DBUS starts, these messages appear Aug 30 14:52:21 zlinux-maint console-kit-daemon[10197]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_async_queue_unref: assertion `queue-waiting_threads == 0' failed Aug 30 14:52:24 zlinux-maint console-kit-daemon[13304]: WARNING: Could not determine

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Mark Post
On 8/30/2012 at 05:57 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: I've noticed on SLES 11 that when DBUS starts, these messages appear Aug 30 14:52:21 zlinux-maint console-kit-daemon[10197]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_async_queue_unref: assertion `queue-waiting_threads == 0' failed Aug

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Scott Rohling
Maybe this daemon is unnecessary on z - or at least, under z/VM - where the console access is logged in the operator consoles? Scott Rohling On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On 8/30/2012 at 05:57 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: I've

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Gregg Levine
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe this daemon is unnecessary on z - or at least, under z/VM - where the console access is logged in the operator consoles? Scott Rohling On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: On

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Marcy Cortes
SR 10789865971 has been submitted.Gregg, doesn't look like it can be removed. Other things have a dependency on it. Marcy -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:29 PM To:

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Gregg Levine
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: SR 10789865971 has been submitted.Gregg, doesn't look like it can be removed. Other things have a dependency on it. Marcy -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port

Re: console-kit-daemon errors on SLES 11

2012-08-30 Thread Sachin Sant
On Friday 31 August 2012 03:27 AM, Marcy Cortes wrote: I've noticed on SLES 11 that when DBUS starts, these messages appear Aug 30 14:52:21 zlinux-maint console-kit-daemon[10197]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_async_queue_unref: assertion `queue-waiting_threads == 0' failed Aug 30 14:52:24 zlinux-maint