Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/12/2015 at 02:48 PM, Linker Harley - hlinke wrote: > Until you get around to disabling cio_ignore you can run the following > command to update the blacklist when you add a volume to Linux to enable it > to be seen: > cio_ignore -r 0.0.vdev Better yes, just cio_ignore -R which

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Linker Harley - hlinke
Mike, Until you get around to disabling cio_ignore you can run the following command to update the blacklist when you add a volume to Linux to enable it to be seen: cio_ignore -r 0.0.vdev Harley Linker -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU]

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Walter
Thanks, Sam, Jay, Jim, Harley, and Mark (and anyone else who may have replied since I looked at the log), There are no LPAR-only Linux servers running here, only those running (RHEL) under z/VM. I suspected that cio_ignore was something related to security (perhaps an auditor fearing that an e

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/12/2015 at 12:13 PM, "Cohen, Sam" wrote: > Mike, > > This is a RedHat "feature"; it isn't an issue with SuSE. It is an SUSE, please. (It's been 11 years now.) > implementation choice by the distributor. Beginning with SLES12, a feature request from IBM means that (by _changeable_

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Linker Harley - hlinke
Mike, I don't have this problem with my SLES 11 SP3 systems on System z as cio-ignore was not enabled, by default, at installation time. I encountered this problem with SLES 12 on System z as cio-ignore is enabled by default. I was just playing with SLES 12 to make note of the changes from SL

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/12/2015 at 10:58 EST, Rick Troth wrote: > Exception to Mother's rule #1: > At a previous site, we had a small (read that as "easy to maintain") mod > to SYSPROF EXEC to conditionally drive LCLPROF EXEC. The latter then did > as little as possible, but arranged for our local stuff to

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread James Tison
It's also about efficiency. Recall that there aren't many other processors out there whose I/O architecture is built on (sub)channels. If the cio_ignore data indicates that signals arriving from certain channels needn't be processed, then that's less work the kernel has to engage in. In cases where

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
It's there for when you bring Linux up in an LPAR with bajillions of devices defined, like an old z/OS LPAR for example. The IPL takes forever as udev enumerates all those devices in /sys and /dev, and then you're running a system that can touch all the devices which it should not have access to.

Re: cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Cohen, Sam
Mike, This is a RedHat "feature"; it isn't an issue with SuSE. It is an implementation choice by the distributor. Thanks, Sam Cohen Levi, Ray & Shoup, Inc. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Walter Sent: Monday, January 12,

cio_ignore vs Linux in System z

2015-01-12 Thread Mike Walter
The cio_ignore table within Linux (at least in RHEL6.5) is used to restrict access devices, both real and virtual. Being new the Linux on System z, this has become an occasional stumbling block for our Linux admins; when we z/VM sysprogs attach a new virtual or real device and the guest cannot

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread Rick Troth
On 01/12/2015 09:20 AM, Robert J Brenneman wrote: > Mother's rule of z/VM Service number 1: Never change anything IBM sends you > Mother's rule of z/VM Service number 2: Never mix your stuff with IBM's stuff. Amen! But see below for an exception. > In my shop we create a user in the directory na

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/12/2015 at 09:46 EST, "Cohen, Sam" wrote: > As you can tell, it's more art than science. My tendency matches Jay's; I > create a NOLOG user called LCLTOOLS and place all my tools on its 191 disk. I > then create a nickname called TOOLS and use VMLINK TOOLS to access that disk. > To

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread Cohen, Sam
Keith, As you can tell, it's more art than science. My tendency matches Jay's; I create a NOLOG user called LCLTOOLS and place all my tools on its 191 disk. I then create a nickname called TOOLS and use VMLINK TOOLS to access that disk. To create a nickname file, see the NAMES command (with

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
Mother's rule of z/VM Service number 1: Never change anything IBM sends you Mother's rule of z/VM Service number 2: Never mix your stuff with IBM's stuff. In my shop we create a user in the directory named after our department and set the PW to NOLOG. We give that new user a 191 disk and control a

Re: Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread van Sleeuwen, Berry
Hi Keith, Usually the VM tools, as well as your local tools, can be put on a general tools disk. For instance, we have a shared minidisk that contains a lot of tools from various sources. Our sysprog users have this disk as 192 so that it will be attached as filemode D during logon. So I would

Where to put Z/VM tools and utilities

2015-01-12 Thread kwg
I have a small z/vm system which is used to run linux and z/os test systems (I work for an ISV). My z/vm knowledge is mainly limited to what I have picked up from the z/linux Redbooks and the "Getting Started" guide. I now want to install some tools from the VM downloads web pages. Is there a s