Tom Duerbusch wrote:
So, I was wonderingin the 21st century, there must be a better
way. I'm thinking something that would take a base report, insert
code into it and print it. Take all that crap out of the
application program. I'm not tied to a PDF format. The bad part
about PDF output is you
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If you're going to rewrite the filter that converts your raw
CICS output
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I've asked before but now I know more about what I'm talking about
(if you can believe that G).
We are at a conversion point. Our CICS print output was being coded
to a hardware box (IDATA box). And those are going away. The new
printers that are wanted, are IP
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I remember EEs at a prior company using Forth years ago. They used to
extend
: Create PDFs
I remember EEs at a prior company using Forth years ago. They used to
extend the language set by adding their own instructions.
Then they
couldn't remember how their own instruction worked (these were EEs
doing this stuff not software guys./me waits for the
verbal abuse to
come in), so
PDFs
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I remember EEs at a prior company using Forth years ago. They used to
extend
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:07:26AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
McKown, John wrote:
Not go anywhere? It was not designed as a general purpose language.
IIRC, the creator created it to control telescopes. I think it has a
larger audience in the embedded or process control world.
Very much so. My
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On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:07:26AM -0500, Dave Jones wrote:
McKown, John wrote:
Not go anywhere? It was not designed as a general purpose language
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:50AM -0400, Evans, Kevin R wrote:
I worked in the embedded field for about 20+ years and never used it
myself. No self respecting software developer would use it (at least for
the military stuff that I worked on). As far as I saw, the code was
almost impossible to
I guess to each their own, no?
Kevin
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On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:33:50AM -0400, Evans, Kevin R
On Sep 25, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Evans, Kevin R wrote:
I remember EEs at a prior company using Forth years ago. They used to
extend the language set by adding their own instructions. Then
they
couldn't remember how their own instruction worked (these were EEs
doing this stuff not software
Adam Thornton wrote:
Nothing except maybe Lisp rivals Forth in terms of expressive-power-
per-byte-of-language. But then a stack is just a bunch of parens
turned on its side.
I'd put APL first in that category !
--Ivan
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Adam Thornton wrote:
Nothing except maybe Lisp rivals
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 04:09:08PM +0200, Ivan Warren wrote:
Adam Thornton wrote:
Nothing except maybe Lisp rivals Forth in terms of expressive-power-
per-byte-of-language. But then a stack is just a bunch of parens
turned on its side.
I'd put APL first in that category !
Three things a man
On Sep 25, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Ivan Warren wrote:
Adam Thornton wrote:
Nothing except maybe Lisp rivals Forth in terms of expressive-power-
per-byte-of-language. But then a stack is just a bunch of parens
turned on its side.
I'd put APL first in that category !
I think I was unclear.
What
If you write it to look like Perl, you'll get an
unmaintainable mess. It's an amplifier: it amplifies mistakes really,
really
well.
It's the old saw that says that it's possible to write FORTRAN in any
programming language if you try hard enough.
Forth is very, very useful, particularly if
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I remember EEs at a prior
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Hello!
Right you are John. I even believe I've got the article from
Byte Magazine
Forth was the language of Sun's Open Boot PROM. From
http://sunsite.uakom.sk/sunworldonline/swol-10-1995/swol-10-openboot.html:
When you turn on a Sun workstation, the firmware in the boot PROM
(programmable read-only memory) is executed immediately. The main
function of a boot PROM is
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Sep 25, 2007, at 5:52 AM, Evans, Kevin R wrote:
I remember EEs at a prior company using Forth years ago. They used to
extend the language set by adding their own instructions. Then
they
couldn't remember how their own instruction worked (these were EEs
doing this stuff
John Summerfield wrote:
I've never seen or used Forth, but allegedly the slushware in Apples and
Suns is pretty similar.
http://www.openfirmware.org/
I may have meant openboot.org - but it's not loading, so I can't be certain.
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John
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I've asked before but now I know more about what I'm talking about (if you can
believe that G).
We are at a conversion point. Our CICS print output was being coded to a
hardware box (IDATA box). And those are going away. The new printers that are
wanted, are IP printers and the IDATA box
Tom ...
I'm curious why you would pursue a PDF capable printer
instead of cranking out PostScript from CICS,
or generating PostScript. It's easy to do.
PostScript is a 4th-like language (where, for those unfamiliar
with it, there was once a language called 4th and PS is like it).
I never
So, I was wonderingin the 21st century, there must be a better
way.
I'm thinking something that would take a base report, insert code
into
it and print it. Take all that crap out of the application program.
I'm
not tied to a PDF format. The bad part about PDF output is you need a
print
On Sep 24, 2007, at 5:40 PM, Rick Troth wrote:
PostScript is a 4th-like language (where, for those unfamiliar
with it, there was once a language called 4th and PS is like it).
Forth.
Pedantically yrs,
Adam
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