James Melin wrote:
Greetings Warren.
I've encountered times where I had NO choice but to use a GUI installer (Neon
Shadow Direct Driver, for instance). When that happens, I would start a
VNCserver. One comes with the SLES distribution. There are ones that have less
overhead, but since I use
RPN01 wrote:
Another use for VNC has nothing to do with running it on the mainframe linux
itself. You can run VNC on a smaller server and use it as a go-between
allowing you to start long-running gui tasks (such as system installs) and
then close your laptop and go home or to the coffee shop,
Henry E Schaffer wrote:
John Summerfield writes:
...
btw, not every implementation if vi is equal, vile is well-named, nvi is
ok, vigor is an enhanced nvi, but my favourite is vim, because there's a
GUI version of it (and a build for Windows).
I agree about vim - it's what vi should have
There is a vnc product named TightVNC. It can use the SSH protocol to
provide more network security.
tom
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Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more.
_/) Tom Shilson
~Unix Team / IT Server Services
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Tom Shilson wrote:
There is a vnc product named TightVNC. It can use the SSH protocol to
provide more network security.
That's what SUSE ships (and to my delight, there's a windows client on
my DVD), but for RH users, it's not quite so simple. however,
port-forwarding with SSH is easy (and
08, 2007 11:47 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: What is vnc
It seems I've struck a nerve with my frustration using the native linux
editors.
I guess I'll rephrase and just say that the best alternative I have
found is to ftp to the linux workstation and gedit the file, then ftp it
back
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I must admit that being predominantly a mainframe user under z/OS, I
also FTP download files to the PC, edit them and FTP upload them again
IF I have a significant amount of rework on some
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You too might consider an NFS client. No reason you could not use ISPF
edit against Linux
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I use various NFS clients against Linux content all the time. One of
interest is the CMS NFS client, which allows use
John Summerfield writes:
...
btw, not every implementation if vi is equal, vile is well-named, nvi is
ok, vigor is an enhanced nvi, but my favourite is vim, because there's a
GUI version of it (and a build for Windows).
I agree about vim - it's what vi should have been :-) (and probably
due to the uniqueness of our work, an IDE is probably not worth the
expenditure
Eclipse costs you nothing. And it's on most distributions.
I like the NFS export idea. The files need to live on the server and
if
that will allow me to use what's on the linux desktop to edit what's
on
the
Is there anywhere that describes exactly what you get with vnc?
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Is there anywhere that describes exactly what you get with vnc
and how can this be applied to Linux running on VM? There is no desktop on VM?
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and how can this be applied to Linux running on VM? There is no desktop on
VM?
Correct. You would use VNC to connect to a graphical desktop environment on a
Linux guest. Typically _not_
with putty and emacs?
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On Thu, Mar 8, 2007 at 5:35 PM, in message
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and how can
On 3/8/07, Warren Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For my RHEL4 on a VM guest, all I can see is using emacs through putty to do
our editing. (we are a heavy editing environment). I have managed to used gedit
from a linux desktop but that was somewhat painful and now refuses to work at
all
Warren Taylor wrote:
For my RHEL4 on a VM guest, all I can see is using emacs through putty to do
our editing. (we are a heavy editing environment). I have managed to used gedit
from a linux desktop but that was somewhat painful and now refuses to work at
all (but I don't really miss its
: 3/8/07 5:45 PM
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and how can this be applied to Linux running on VM? There is no desktop on VM?
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www.realvnc.com
On 3/9/07, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
3) It removes a 'different' aspect of Linux on the mainframe. Since the current
generation of Linux admins seem incapable of coping without a GUI, vnc allows
mainframe and non-mainframe systems to appear exactly the same.
It has more to do
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For my RHEL4 on a VM guest, all I can see is using emacs through putty to do
our editing. (we are a heavy editing environment). I have managed to used
gedit from a linux desktop but that
sharing is all about.
thanks
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For my
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On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Warren Taylor wrote:
due to the uniqueness of our work, an IDE is probably not worth the
expenditure
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On Mar 8, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Warren Taylor wrote:
due to the uniqueness of our work, an IDE is probably not worth the
expenditure and if I hear one more reference to vi Im going to
croak. These editors are far too
On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Warren Taylor wrote:
It seems I've struck a nerve with my frustration using the native
linux editors.
No, it's more that you've struck a nerve by wildly inaccurately
denouncing emacs and vi as weaker than gedit.
Less immediately accessible, sure. Less pretty in
Adam Thornton wrote:
On Mar 8, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Warren Taylor wrote:
But these are just things we'd expect any reasonably-competent editor
to be able to do. Now, let's look at some of the lesser-explored
corners of Emacs:
Does gedit support psychoanalysis of Zippy the Pinhead? Of course
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